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Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:36 AM

If my armchair analysis is correct, this is about to become MOST DELICIOUS.

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1. Jill Kelly gets "stay away from my man" letters from Broadwell. She goes to a low-level friend at the FBI with whom she may have had a relationship (based on the shirtless pix he'd sent to her in the past). She goes to the FBI rather than the local authorities because she fears the letters may be related to Patraeus (whom she knows) , or she thought she'd use some "insider FBI friend with benefits" clout to get something done.

2. of course, shirtless wonder indeed unravels the thread because Ol' Dave left a trail. The FBI officially had to open an investigation because of the security level involved. Their investigation was solely about whether or not Paula had the "NOC List" or Doomsday Instructions on her IPAD. They were under no obligation to inform anyone until they had reason to believe a law had been broken, and it wouldn't have been prudent to inform anyone anyway. It could even have blown the investigation.

3. She did not have any classified material that she could have received from Patraeus. Her take on the libyan prisoners was even false. In fact, she could've gotten it from FOX.

4. case closed. As unethical as it may be, adultery is not a federal crime. they informed Holder, who was well within his rights not to tell the president because, again, Patraeus had NOT BROKEN THE LAW and neither had Broadwell, PLUS the affair had ended. Patraeus even thought he'd get away with it and keep his gig.

5. But Noooooooo..that wasn't good enough for shirtless boy, who apparently thought he'd created the october surprise from hell, so he gets it in his head to maybe whip up a little bit of a storm to rival Sandy, and he whistleblows to his GOP shill.

6. Nope. The case was closed. He went COMPLETELY OUTSIDE PROTOCOL to leak it to the guy who leaked it to Cantor....and he pulls this the week before the election (Surprise!)

7 . To Cantor's credit, he was blindsided and he was actually all about finding out the truth (at least, before he could use it to his advantage), so he contacts the FBI to check out the story, and the director was all "yeaaahhhh....about that: we weren't trying to hide anything....they're doing the ill freaky nah nah, but they've stopped the affair and they didn't break the law. Promise: we would've told you if we'd found out that he'd told her about Area 51."

8. The cat's out, so patraeus does the only thing he can do. President Obama was under no obligation to accept his resignation because ethics are different from laws...but it was in everyone's best interests.

9. There was NO political advantage for the WH to sit on the investigation. In fact, july and august would've been PERFECT for it to roll out. that would have gotten it over with before the convention, and it would have been embarrassing for Patraeus no matter when it was discovered.

10. No security breach. no federal crime. no benghazi connection, no political advantage for Obama to sit on the info....and a low level FBI frat boy with visions of "Deep Throat" might end up being in Deep Shit...ALL OVER SOMETHING THAT WAS TOO FAR FETCHED EVEN FOR "JERSEY SHORE."

End result: the republicans play dirty pool in elections and everyone might just discover it.







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pepperbear Nov 2012 OP
msongs Nov 2012 #1
pepperbear Nov 2012 #3
Hekate Nov 2012 #2
pepperbear Nov 2012 #4
gordianot Nov 2012 #5
aquart Nov 2012 #6
pepperbear Nov 2012 #7
Berlum Nov 2012 #13
Tx4obama Nov 2012 #8
pepperbear Nov 2012 #9
dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #25
Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #18
Morganfleeman Nov 2012 #10
pepperbear Nov 2012 #11
FreedomRain Nov 2012 #17
pepperbear Nov 2012 #22
JI7 Nov 2012 #12
pepperbear Nov 2012 #14
TahitiNut Nov 2012 #16
yardwork Nov 2012 #27
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #31
ReRe Nov 2012 #15
Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #19
tridim Nov 2012 #20
Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #21
Mc Mike Nov 2012 #33
Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #23
Duppers Nov 2012 #24
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #26
Walk away Nov 2012 #28
left on green only Nov 2012 #29
pepperbear Nov 2012 #30
left on green only Nov 2012 #32

Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:39 AM

1. plus yet another self serving general is now down in the mud for the roll around nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:50 AM

3. I know right?

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:44 AM

2. You've laid that out beautifully

NOW I get it. So it all comes down to the FBI agent's delusions of grandeur (or something).

Hekate

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Response to Hekate (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:54 AM

4. I think this is solely an issue within the FBI.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:56 AM

5. The errant FBI agent might be able to get a job at Fox News as a security guard.

One more thing Diane Fienstein is really pissed and Mrs. Greenspan got to rile her up.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:09 AM

6. Jill Kelley, married mom of three, asks unstable FBI agent for help.

I say "unstable" because he sent those topless photos to a married woman with connections. HOW STUPID CAN YOU GET?

She asks him for help with her emails KNOWING she has an illicit high-powered email relationship to hide. What if he found them and reacted with jealousy?

Do her children look like her husband?

We're looking at Broadwell as the instigator. I'm wondering WTF is up with Kelley.

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Response to aquart (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:28 AM

7. as I said..."Jersey Shore."

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Response to aquart (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:54 AM

13. How stupid can you get? (R)

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:29 AM

8. You left out the NEW breaking news about Jill Kelley and General ALLEN

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:34 AM

9. It went to press before thaty happened!

such is how fast this has changed.

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Response to pepperbear (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:55 PM

25. I am still curious about the classified info. that WAS found on Broadwell's puter.

All the FBI would say was that it existed and it did not come to her from Pretraeus.

ok...what was it and who did it come from?
or where was it going?

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:21 AM

18. And that Kelley has quite a history.

There is more here. This is not going away. Rather than much ado about nothing, we are examining the cap to a very large cesspool.

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Response to Morganfleeman (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:07 AM

11. nice try, but you missed the part about

how it's still not illegal, which, unfortunately for your supposition, is ALL that matters to the FBI. Sorry, but they did their job when they investigated it as a potential security breach. I think the FBI can read the uniform code, too.

You seem to ignore the fact that I clearly stated the ethical issues, for which Patraeus has payed the only price that can be expected at this point, which is his job. After only 5 posts, that tells me alot.

oh yeah...and it's not the same with the CIA.



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Response to pepperbear (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:36 AM

17. I think it is illegal after all

mind you, I don't know;

but I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the employment contract is a clause about concealing changes to the answers provided on a background check is illegal. Even worse, if he lied during that check.

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Response to FreedomRain (Reply #17)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:08 AM

22. rachel maddow just said it's different for CIA.

according to her, they can cheat if they come out about it to their boss so their is no possibility of blackmail.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:31 AM

12. how about those who say Obama set this all up to distract from Benghazi ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:06 AM

14. yeah...they need to look at their time line.

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Response to pepperbear (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:36 AM

16. Well, for some, facts don't matter.

When a political fifth column has a media empire ready to peddle the propaganda, facts are like scrap paper in the wind.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:05 PM

27. Obama set up multiple affairs between generals and socialites a year in advance of Benghazi,

just in case he needed something to distract from Benghazi if it happened a year later? That's even more forward thinking than when his parents ran a fake birth announcement in the Honolulu paper because they knew that little Barack Hussein would one day run for president.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:21 AM

31. That Obama guy is one smart dude. He set this up one day after after hand printing his Hawaii

birth certificate as a 1 year old in Kenya.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:34 AM

15. Wait a minute.....

..... where does the photo of KKKarl and Broadwell fit into this timeline? dates, dates, dates...
Yeah it's hard to keep up, isn't it? The story changes almost hourly... I am NOT going to make any cracks about this woman's surname or the title of her book. Not going to do it.. Wouldn't be prudent.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:41 AM

19. She kidnapped herself, man.

Think about it, young trophy wife, owes money all over town to Jackie Treehorn.

She's gotta feed the monkey.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:17 AM

20. Shut the fuck up Tommy.

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Response to tridim (Reply #20)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:28 AM

21. I am the walrus.

Most quotable movie ever made.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:36 AM

33. And also let's not forget -- let's NOT forget, Dude

that keeping wildlife, um, an amphibious rodent, for -- um, you know, domestic -- within the city, .. that ain't legal either.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:10 AM

23. And now the RW mouthpieces want to shut it down!

That tells you EVERYTHING you need to know.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:41 PM

24. must add another Jersey Shore touch

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:59 PM

26. in number 2- shouldn't that be the NOC list?

 

NOC for 'Non-Official Cover' (i think that's what it was in the first mission impossible movie).

I don't remember what they called it in SKYFALL- but it's the same kind of list the bad guys stole at the beginning of the movie.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:13 PM

28. It's like a big republican circle jerk of a soap opera!

It's going to take a Mini Series!

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:54 PM

29. I have a question.......

....In No. 4 it says that Baula Proadwell had not broken the law. What about her having sent threatening emails to Kill Jelly? Of course we don't know what words those emails contained, or what the nature of the threats were, but even if it was only blackmail, isn't that against the law?

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Response to left on green only (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:33 AM

30. check out the stories....the emails didn't even merit an inquiry....

until it was clear it was all about patraeus.

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Response to pepperbear (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:25 AM

32. Yes, I am aware of that, but.......

just because the FBI has so far chosen not to enforce the laws, does not mean that no laws were broken. I mean, wasn't that the original intent of Kill Jelley when she reported having received threatening emails? It is my understanding that she wanted to bring the force of law down upon whoever had sent her the emails (and my use of the word "whoever" is in some ways sarcastic. I think she knew damn straight all along who sent her those emails).

It looks to me like just an every day cat fight going on between two jealous lovers (Baula Proadwell and Kill Jelley) that went awry. A veritable love triangle, if you will, with the "good general" at the top.

Upon edit to add: I certainly am not a 4 star military general who has been versed in the tactics of successful engagement in military combat with the outcome of outsmarting the "enemy" and driving them to capitulation, but I sure as hell know the typical behavior of amorous adults well enough to have been able to spot that one coming down a mile away. I mean, all is fair in love and war, but between the two, love is by far the more lecherous, I mean treacherous.

More simply stated using the vernacular: The good general got caught thinking with the wrong head.

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