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Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:19 PM

My Response to the Wanna Be Secessionists.

I posted this on my FB account. These are my words and feeling as clumsy as they may be.

This is a day late:
I have heard a lot of talk about seceding from the United States lately. Ironically, much of it comes from the same people who thanked me for my service this past Veterans Day. I would like to make some things clear. I am not a huge fan of what our military has to do at the behest of our government, but I did serve. I served not for the powers that be nor for what could be gained. I served because of the concept of the United States, the concept that when all we have and all we are have been united we can pull through any adversity. This concept is what empowers not me, not you, but us.
I would like the figurative you out there to consider something. What will happen when you are no longer a part of us? There are all manner of things that will have to be put into place once you become sovereign nations. Who will help you when you need it? How will you be affected? Your businesses? Your infrastructure? There is a reason we can live the way we do and help as often as we do. It's because we are The United States of America. Even if you leave we will still be The United States of America, and if you fail we will take you back, and we will still be The United States of America.
Now, I'd like you to consider how the people who served this nation to preserve the concept and it's people must feel when you say you no longer wish to be a part of it just because you aren't getting what you want. When you tell me "thanks for your service," and then talk of secession, you can take your "thanks" and stick it up your ass. To me you are a hypocrite and a borderline traitor. You have no clue what this nation stands for.

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Reply My Response to the Wanna Be Secessionists. (Original post)
svpadgham Nov 2012 OP
valerief Nov 2012 #1
svpadgham Nov 2012 #3
TalkingDog Nov 2012 #4
valerief Nov 2012 #5
99Forever Nov 2012 #2
dae Nov 2012 #6
Squaredeal Nov 2012 #7
alfredo Nov 2012 #8
femrap Nov 2012 #11
svpadgham Nov 2012 #13
JoeyT Nov 2012 #14
Liberalagogo Nov 2012 #15
ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #9
femrap Nov 2012 #10
world wide wally Nov 2012 #27
rablrouzer Nov 2012 #12
leanforward Nov 2012 #16
WCLinolVir Nov 2012 #19
cynatnite Nov 2012 #17
Liberalagogo Nov 2012 #18
world wide wally Nov 2012 #26
zwyziec Nov 2012 #20
ffr Nov 2012 #21
icarusxat Nov 2012 #22
on point Nov 2012 #23
Go Vols Nov 2012 #24
Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #28
svpadgham Nov 2012 #30
world wide wally Nov 2012 #25
grahamhgreen Nov 2012 #29

Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:24 PM

1. Secession petitions are grown-up tantrums. If these people were serious, they'd move

to Somalia for limited government and their freedumbS.

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Response to valerief (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:28 PM

3. True

I just wish they'd quit trying to get me to sign them.

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Response to valerief (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:46 PM

4. Yep. I likened it to bunch of butt-hurt monkeys beating their chests and flinging their poo.

They will calm down once they are out of poo to fling.

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Response to TalkingDog (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:50 PM

5. Righties never run out of shit to fling.

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:25 PM

2. No borderline to it.

They are traitors, straight up. Thanks for speaking your mind.

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:54 PM

6. Excellent!

You nailed it,two BIG .

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:59 PM

7. Rhodesia doesn't exist anymore

There's so few right wing countries to move to anymore.

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Response to Squaredeal (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:14 PM

8. Saudi Arabia is a good example.

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Response to Squaredeal (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:18 PM

11. Somalia has

 

no gov't so Grover Norquist and his like should move there!!!!!

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Response to Squaredeal (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:34 PM

13. Maybe Petoria

with it's annex of Johio.

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Response to Squaredeal (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:55 PM

14. There are still quite a few.

The social conservatives would probably be quite happy in Saudi Arabia or Iran, the fiscal conservatives would be tickled pink to live in Dubai, and the libertarian wing would find Somalia more to their liking.

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Response to Squaredeal (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:05 AM

15. Uganda

They can kill the gays there, now.

Too bad the place is a shit-hole....but the wingnuts seem happiest when they wallow in their own shit.

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:16 PM

9. As far as I am concerned, and secessionist freepers and lurkers listen close,

Get. The. Fuck. Out!

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:17 PM

10. My response to the

 

them is: Buh-Bye!!!! I'm sick of the mostly the Southern Senators f*cking up my world.

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:31 PM

12. The War of Northern Aggression ?

Damn Yankees won.

It's over.

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:05 AM

16. Secession

Well stated. Yet, these same folks will need services sooner or later.

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Response to leanforward (Reply #16)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:10 AM

19. We should respect their ethics, or is it pathos, and deny them.

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:08 AM

17. The best line...

When you tell me "thanks for your service," and then talk of secession, you can take your "thanks" and stick it up your ass.

Excellent post!

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:09 AM

18. Six words....

which by a strange quirk of fate...these "secessionists" were screeching themselves a while back, need hurling right back in their faces:

AMERICA. LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!

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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:07 AM

26. I had a bumper sticker back in the late 60's that said "Vietnam, love it or leave it"

I loved that bumper sticker, but some redneck tore it off my car

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:14 AM

20. From another veteran to those who want to secede. don't the door hit you in the ass as you leave!

I've got your back svpadgham!

I served six years in the US Navy, because it was the right thing to do.

Finished my degree in physics. Got married, raised a family and retired.

As I look back on my life those years in the service were wonderful. They rounded out my life experiences, opened my mind to other points of view and yes, I did see the world!

To those people, mostly in the Red States, that want to secede, don't like the door hit you in your ass as you're leaving!

USS Boston CAG-1
Guided Missile Heavy Cruiser
Charleston, MA
ETR5

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:16 AM

21. First off, thank you for your service



What you just said is near perfect to what I was trying to wrap my head around today, while trying to think of reasons why I would want to sign a petition to secede from our union.

Putting myself in their shoes; where to even begin and why would I even be thinking of such a treasonous idea? You have to really think it through. Would you be willing to take up arms to get your way, another civil war, killing your fellow man, KILLING YOUR FELLOW MAN??? Because of one election? You think that 2010 wasn't any more humbling for the Dems? It's called an election for a reason. We the people, election our representatives. They represent us and speak for us.

As much as I disagree with all the red Republican friends, neighbors and colleagues, it disgusts me to think of bearing arms, them against us, crosshairs in a gunsight. SICK! The people in these red states either haven't thought it through or they are truly mental.

We need to push for federal education standards with at least one critical thinking course as a mandatory part of the curriculum.

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:35 AM

22. I have always given my students a "magic word" for them to use in their lives. End their sentences

that begin with can't, with the word yet.
Now I have another magic word...Us
I am a vet, and have always put my money where my mouth is
This country is worth fighting for and living for and working for...

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:46 AM

23. Go ahead and take your ball and go home - childish know nothings

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:00 AM

24. no one is going to secede

Petitions have been filed for New York,Missouri,New Jersey,Oregon,among others.

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Response to Go Vols (Reply #24)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:26 AM

28. That kind of information gets lost in the noise

It's always more fun for some people here just to blow something like this WAY out of proportion and blame Southerners for all the country's ills.

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Response to Go Vols (Reply #24)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:18 AM

30. I understand it's not going to happen,

but it is a slap in the face to many of the veterans and family members they claim to support.

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Response to svpadgham (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:05 AM

25. Sometimes I would love to just let them go

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:31 AM

29. Especially Texas!

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