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Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:41 PM

e-mail trick Petraeus & Broadwell used to communicate, They shared a GMAIL account and left 'drafts'

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/12/heres-the-e-mail-trick-petraeus-and-broadwell-used-to-communicate/

CIA Director David Petraeus and Paula Broadwell, a former military intelligence officer and his biographer, adopted a well-worn online trick, in an apparent attempt to keep their communications secret.

They wrote their “intimate messages” as draft e-mails in a shared Gmail account, according to the AP, allowing them to see one anothers’ messages while leaving a much fainter data trail. When messages are sent and received, both accounts record the transmission as well as such metadata as the IP addresses on either end, something the two seemed to be seeking to avoid.

Petraeus and Broadwell apparently used a trick, known to terrorists and teen-agers alike, to conceal their email traffic, one of the law enforcement officials said.

Rather than transmitting emails to the other’s inbox, they composed at least some messages and instead of transmitting them, left them in a draft folder or in an electronic “dropbox,” the official said. Then the other person could log onto the same account and read the draft emails there. This avoids creating an email trail that is easier to trace.

The trick has achieved notoriety as a tactic of terrorists who are rightly wary of espionage.

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Reply e-mail trick Petraeus & Broadwell used to communicate, They shared a GMAIL account and left 'drafts' (Original post)
trailmonkee Nov 2012 OP
madaboutharry Nov 2012 #1
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #9
Indpndnt Nov 2012 #10
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #13
Indpndnt Nov 2012 #14
tyne Nov 2012 #2
JVS Nov 2012 #3
RogerM Nov 2012 #4
flamingdem Nov 2012 #5
morningfog Nov 2012 #11
amborin Nov 2012 #6
BanTheGOP Nov 2012 #7
Indykatie Nov 2012 #8
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #12

Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:46 PM

1. He was the Director of CIA for Christ's sake!

What an idiot. It probably took the FBI one second, if that long, to figure out.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:42 PM

9. Thinking with the Little Head. nt

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Response to DollarBillHines (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:47 PM

10. This one?





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Response to Indpndnt (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:54 PM

13. effin' hilarious!

OK, I am sitting in a wine cave with some of the most kick-ass wine lobbyists in the country, bored out of my mind with the academics.

Everyone has a screen up, dealing with issues.

I'm on DU, laughing at my laptop.

Everyone is looking at me as if I have Hydrophobia.

Thanks a lot,
DBH

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Response to DollarBillHines (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:02 PM

14. Lol!

Then I'm glad I didn't make a crack about the pic of the General and his little 'Private.'

Oops.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:46 PM

2. I know

it's kind of interesting the know the ins and outs of their affair, but I'm getting a little concerned about the blatant leaks coming out. Or, is FBI info a matter of public record?

A little while ago it was "leaked" that the FBI dude who contacted the congressman was removed because he was sending shirtless emails to a woman on the case.

Who is leaking all of this? And why?

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:53 PM

3. Dave+Paula@gmail.com ?

Sneaky.

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Response to JVS (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:55 PM

4. Dave+Paula@gmail.com

LMAO

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:07 PM

5. Well that might explain her access to "his" email

so that's not a breech perhaps.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:50 PM

11. It says they shared one account set up for the secrecy.

That would not explain her access to his legitimate personal email account.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:07 PM

6. standard terrorist tactic eom

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:11 PM

7. Stupid, stupid, stupid

 

It is very easy to hide communication. The dropbox technique still doesn't hide IP access to Gmail itself, which any one of his CIA minions could have told him. It would have been much easier to use a proxy and a private email account on a foreign-based server, along with encryption using a plausible deniability double-login protocol. (This would entail sending two messages in the same email, both encrypted, but with different passwords, so that during investigation that requires release of passwords, they give the password for the innocuous email, while leaving the actual email encrypted even under warrant.)

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:19 PM

8. I think the Timing of Petraeus's Retirement from the Military and Move to the CIA Post

may be a factor in the scandal. I assume he would face much stiffer penalties if the affair was discovered while in the service. I also do not think Paula was his first affair. She was writing nasty e-mails to the other woman for a reason. The "family friend" who was being harassed would no doubt have taken her complaint about the e-mails to Patraeus unless there was something more going on with her relationship or previous relationship with him. That she went directly to the FBI speaks volumes in my opinion, OK, I'll take off my tin foil hat now.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:53 PM

12. Profumo affair, we are definitely going THAT WAY

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