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Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:40 PM

Romney Had No Votes in Many Urban Precincts

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/12/romney_had_no_votes_in_many_urban_precincts.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PoliticalWire+%28Political+Wire%29

CBS News reports "it is now becoming clear just how lopsided President Obama's victory was in some cities: in dozens of urban precincts, Mitt Romney earned literally zero votes."

"The Phildadelphia Inquirer reported today that, in 59 precincts in inner-city Philadelphia, the GOP nominee received not a single vote. And according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, nine precincts in Cleveland returned zero Romney votes."

"At first blush, it seems almost impossible: how, even in some of the most heavily Democratic strongholds in the country, could a major party's presidential candidate fail to earn even one vote?"

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Reply Romney Had No Votes in Many Urban Precincts (Original post)
Mass Nov 2012 OP
greytdemocrat Nov 2012 #1
iemitsu Nov 2012 #2
shenmue Nov 2012 #17
iemitsu Nov 2012 #34
JI7 Nov 2012 #3
shenmue Nov 2012 #19
HockeyMom Nov 2012 #4
obliviously Nov 2012 #8
BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #5
Whisp Nov 2012 #6
applegrove Nov 2012 #7
AlGoreRhythms Nov 2012 #9
LisaL Nov 2012 #10
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #20
Enrique Nov 2012 #11
msanthrope Nov 2012 #18
jmowreader Nov 2012 #12
dlwickham Nov 2012 #13
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #21
morningfog Nov 2012 #32
morningfog Nov 2012 #36
uponit7771 Nov 2012 #14
Enrique Nov 2012 #23
dsc Nov 2012 #33
lunasun Nov 2012 #15
BumRushDaShow Nov 2012 #16
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #22
morningfog Nov 2012 #37
LineReply I
John2 Nov 2012 #24
coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #39
Enrique Nov 2012 #25
Brickbat Nov 2012 #41
valerief Nov 2012 #26
XtopherXtopher Nov 2012 #28
undeterred Nov 2012 #27
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #29
ffr Nov 2012 #30
nikto Nov 2012 #31
wickerwoman Nov 2012 #35
morningfog Nov 2012 #38
leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #40
Barack_America Nov 2012 #42
Barack_America Nov 2012 #43

Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:43 PM

1. I believe it!!! n/t

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:45 PM

2. Reading this makes me smile.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:28 PM

17. Same here

I've been smiling since last week.

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Response to shenmue (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:20 PM

34. Yeah, ain't it grand?

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:53 PM

3. not surprised at all

have we ever figured out why he ran for President ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:29 PM

19. I think it's because...

he crazy.

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:53 PM

4. They don't believe it

VOTER FRAUD!!!!!!! They just refuse to believe that other people simply don't believe they do. Total denial. I am sure you can go to very rural places in the South where Obama didn't get one single vote (which I DO believe) too, but that is DIFFERENT. THEY have GOD on their side and are RIGHT!!!!!!

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:13 PM

8. Check it out

It is public record, I'm sure if we really wanted to find out it would be easy.

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:54 PM

5. Especially surprising given all the outreach he did


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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:55 PM

6. because they were suppressed!

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:01 PM

7. Romney should include city dwellers

with the 47% that never vote for him and that he doesn‘t care about.

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:19 PM

9. That's got to be

some kind of record.

Way to go Mittens!!

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:32 PM

10. Without Cuyahoga county, Romney would have won OH.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:29 PM

20. And we all know what pigs would do with wings.

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:34 PM

11. that New Black Panther guy killed all the Romney voters

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Response to Enrique (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:28 PM

18. Dude--I was the campaign attorney working that Division and Ward....

the guy was fine--but Fox and other Repuke assholes kept showing up during the day to make trouble.

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:43 PM

12. I always knew city folks were smart

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:46 PM

13. I'm sure that were some precints in which Obama didn't receive any votes

probably in Mississippi or wherever but I'm sure there were some

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:30 PM

21. Let's see; evidence vs. an unsupported hunch. THAT? Is how Romney lost.

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:55 PM

32. I doubt it. Come back when you have something more than

baseless speculation.

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:20 PM

36. You are wrong. UPDATE:

"There are places where Obama won less than 10 percent of the vote. In King County, Texas, he won exactly five votes to Romney’s 135. But nowhere was Obama’s loss among white voters as stark as Romney’s loss among urban blacks."

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/11/philadelphia_voter_fraud_is_it_possible_that_barack_obama_won_100_percent.html

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:48 PM

14. Has this EVER happened in the history of voting in this country?

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:34 PM

23. yes

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57548626/romney-earned-zero-votes-in-some-urban-precincts/

And the outcome is not at all out of step with recent history - in 2008, 57 divisions in Philadelphia returned zero votes for then-GOP nominee, Arizona Sen. John McCain. And in 2004, a more Republican-friendly election year, five Philadelphia divisions shut out former President George W. Bush entirely.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #23)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:33 PM

33. I am from the Cleveland area

and every election the GOP gets shut out in some districts on Cleveland's east side and in East Cleveland (if you know what East St Louis is then you have an idea what East Cleveland is).

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:12 PM

15. "could a major party's presidential candidate fail to earn even one vote?"

Honestly what urban votes did Romney attempt to earn ? none
votes counted = none
fail complete

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:25 PM

16. How many rural precincts had not a single vote for Obama?



P.S. notice the continued "universalization" of whites here? They should ask this -

"At first blush, it seems almost impossible: how, even in some of the most heavily Republican Democrat strongholds in the country, could a major party's presidential candidate fail to earn even one vote?"

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:31 PM

22. There were, apparently, none. Unless you have access to information these authors don't?

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:42 PM

24. I

 

don't see how anybody of color could vote for a Party that has a lot of white supremacists in it. I've listen to people that do but still can't understand their logic. There should have been a Poll question to minorities asking if they thought the GOP was racist but it has never been asked. I think Pollsters are scared to ask it. The GOP might find out a lot of their problems with getting those votes. Now I'm not claiming everyone in the GOP is racist, but I do think they attract a lot of those groups with their message. I also think this is a minority but still a significant group that bullies the moderates.

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Response to John2 (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:29 PM

39. Blacks voting Rape-publi-scum would be like Jews voting for Hitler - n/t

 

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:42 PM

25. this part is hilarious

a newspaper tries to find Republicans in inner-city Philadelphia:

Although voter registration lists, which often contain outdated information, show 12 Republicans live in the ward's third division, The Inquirer was unable to find any of them by calling or visiting their homes.

Four of the registered Republicans no longer lived there; four others didn't answer their doors. City Board of Elections registration data say a registered Republican used to live at 25th and York Streets, but none of the neighbors across the street Friday knew him. Cathy Santos, 56, founder of the National Alliance of Women Veterans, had one theory: "We ran him out of town!" she said and laughed.

James Norris, 19, who lives down the street, is listed as a Republican in city data. But he said he's a Democrat and voted for Obama because he thinks the president will help the middle class.

A few blocks away, Eric Sapp, a 42-year-old chef, looked skeptical when told that city data had him listed as a registered Republican. "I got to check on that," said Sapp, who voted for Obama.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:48 PM

41. I'm crying with laughter. That sounds like the Onion. I love it.

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:47 PM

26. Outside of Manhattan, I don't how he could get ANY! nt

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Response to valerief (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:02 PM

28. More like outside Staten Island!

It's not unknown for Manhattan to vote 90% Democrat, as we did for Kerry.

The only place Republicans do really well is Staten Island, for reasons I won't go into...

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:49 PM

27. No wonder Republicans are so desperate to supress the vote!

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:09 PM

29. One of the things you guys need to consider,...

In 2000 it turned out most of the shenanigans happened in the "red" counties. Things like more votes than voters.

In all likelihood they stuffed the ballot boxes in red areas because dems were looking at the blue areas.

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:24 PM

30. Crushing to the GOP ego.

I'm hearing that some of what remains of the GOP are trying to get a head start on 2014 & 2016. There's a lot of blame gaming also, but it's hopeful to see the sane within their party are making an effort to win future elections in a straight-foward manner, instead of the looney 'end of America,' 'we are done as a country' chatter of recent.

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:54 PM

31. I know the reason...

It was the ghost of Mike Connell, earning redemption.

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:27 PM

35. The sad truth is this is probably the result of gerrymandering more than anything else.

All the Democrats are crammed into a few sacrificial precincts to give Republicans the edge in other ones.

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Response to wickerwoman (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:22 PM

38. It is racism, too. All the blacks are crammed into specific neighborhoods.

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Response to wickerwoman (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:44 PM

40. Any who supports this shoud be fucking deported.

 

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Response to wickerwoman (Reply #35)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:05 AM

42. No it isn't. It's a product of a large, racially segregated city.

And evidence of how poorly Republicans are doing with African Americans.

If you look at a Philadelphia ward map (below), you'll see that the wards are pretty cut and dry. Each voting precinct has approximately 1,000 registered voters. Philadelphia is fairly densely populated, so just one neighborhood can have several precincts. There isn't much heterogeneity within districts.

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Response to Mass (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:16 AM

43. Romney got 2 votes in the division I worked at in 2008.

For a walloping 0.43% of the vote compared to 452 (98.26%) for Obama.

Jill Stein of the Libertarian Party received double Romney's vote total (4).

Obama actually did slightly worse in the ward overall, compared to 2008 (96.64% in 2008 vs. 96.02% in 2012). However, this was due to higher turnout for the Greens and Libertarians, as Republican votes were also down (McCain 2.72%, Romney 2.48%).

Sources:
http://www.seventy.org/Downloads/Election_Returns_&_Data/2008_General/November_2008_Results.pdf
http://filter.phillyelectionresults.com/comprehensive.aspx

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