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Petraeus, Rove, and Paula Broadwell: I Smell A Rat

Petraeus, Rove, and Paula Broadwell: I Smell A Rat

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And then there's this:

As her answer continued, Broadwell seemed to speak on behalf of Petraeus: “The challenging thing for General Petraeus is that in his new position he is not allowed to communicate with the press. So he’s known all of this, they had correspondence with the CIA station chief in Libya. Within 24 hours they kind of knew what was happening.”

Broadwell, herself a former military intelligence officer, began her discussion of the attack by referencing an exclusive Fox News report that had run that day. But while dramatic details of that story were later fiercely disputed by government officials, she relayed only parts of that story—like the attempt to send backup from a special-operations force—that were finally confirmed.


The Fox News story referenced there is the story that spawned the "Obama lied; people died" meme they tried to smear President Obama with during the election. Their report claimed that despite requests by the CIA for backup, they were denied. That sent Fox News talkers into a tizzy about how terrible this administration was and how the blood of our diplomats was on their head.

Who else pimped that story all over Fox News, do you think? None other than Karl Rove.

ROVE: Yeah, you don't want to send people into harm's way without knowing what's on the ground. But you can at least begin to move assets to the fight -- to the conflict. You could have a C-130 gunship orbiting off of -- off of Benghazi, waiting for clarity. You can put a QRF, a quick rapid force into position. You could have them airborne. You can have them out there. The president says he ordered support to be given and, yet, support wasn't given.


Except as we know, support was given.

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We have these unrelated things. Let's put them in a timeline.

June 11, 2012 - Broadwell pictured with Rove, who tweets about it in June.
June-August, 2012 - FBI receives complaint about "harassing emails" sent by Broadwell to Jill Kelley
October 26, 2012 - Fox News "Exclusive" claiming CIA requested and was refused reinforcements.
October 26, 2012 - Broadwell pimps the Fox News version of events at a University of Denver symposium
October 28, 2012 - Rove hammers and expands on it in an interview on Fox News
Approximately October 28-31, 2012 - FBI confronts Petraeus and interviews him about emails, determines no breaches of national security have taken place.
October 31, 2012 - Cantor Chief of Staff contacted by Rep. Dave Reichert about FBI 'whistleblower'. Cantor says he contacted the FBI immediately.
November 6, 2012 - Barack Obama wins re-election
November 6, 2012 - James Clapper (Director of National Intelligence) informed of FBI investigation
November 8, 2012 - Petraeus submits resignation
November 9, 2012 - Resignation accepted


I'm smelling a Rove rat. Are you? Why the silence from Cantor? Clearly Reichert tipped Cantor off in the hopes of using this information in some way. The Petraeus/Rove relationship is real and long-standing. Is it possible that Paula was passing Rove information to use against President Obama in his re-election bid?

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http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/petraeus-rove-and-paula-broadwell-i-smell-r

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Reply Petraeus, Rove, and Paula Broadwell: I Smell A Rat (Original post)
kpete Nov 2012 OP
seabeyond Nov 2012 #1
Coyotl Nov 2012 #2
aquart Nov 2012 #3
enough Nov 2012 #4
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #7
librechik Nov 2012 #9
enough Nov 2012 #19
sandyshoes17 Nov 2012 #5
Hutzpa Nov 2012 #45
pacalo Nov 2012 #54
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #6
loudsue Nov 2012 #17
cliffordu Nov 2012 #20
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #23
cliffordu Nov 2012 #53
HiPointDem Nov 2012 #29
spanone Nov 2012 #8
liberal N proud Nov 2012 #10
Dawson Leery Nov 2012 #11
russspeakeasy Nov 2012 #12
Wellstone ruled Nov 2012 #13
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #14
loudsue Nov 2012 #18
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #46
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #50
SouthernGirl2 Nov 2012 #15
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #16
calimary Nov 2012 #24
renate Nov 2012 #25
colorado_ufo Nov 2012 #33
CoboWowbo Nov 2012 #49
nichomachus Nov 2012 #21
byeya Nov 2012 #22
marlakay Nov 2012 #28
pacalo Nov 2012 #55
Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #26
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #31
Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #39
calimary Nov 2012 #27
marlakay Nov 2012 #30
glinda Nov 2012 #32
Generic Other Nov 2012 #36
SpartanDem Nov 2012 #43
calimary Nov 2012 #59
bloomington-lib Nov 2012 #34
Hubert Flottz Nov 2012 #35
colorado_ufo Nov 2012 #37
JimDandy Nov 2012 #47
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #48
aletier_v Nov 2012 #57
DavidDvorkin Nov 2012 #38
Ametia Nov 2012 #40
tkmorris Nov 2012 #41
pacalo Nov 2012 #56
Squinch Nov 2012 #42
TheAmbivalante Nov 2012 #44
phiddle Nov 2012 #51
JimDandy Nov 2012 #52
Cerridwen Nov 2012 #58
JimDandy Nov 2012 #62
The Wizard Nov 2012 #60
hobbit709 Nov 2012 #61
condoleeza Nov 2012 #63

Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:01 PM

1. this is nov. supposedly they had broken up four months ago. july. well before Benghazi

how can she be speaking for the general. and when did she have the classified stuff on her computer.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:02 PM

3. You mean Rove botched something else?

Poor liddle fella.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:02 PM

4. Can anyone explain the meaning of that uniform she is wearing? (nt)

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Response to enough (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:05 PM

7. She was a major in the Army reserves?

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:08 PM

9. true

part of the investigation is about whether she violated her terms of service in the military.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:26 PM

19. Thanks (nt)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:03 PM

5. Too many connections

to all the shadey players. The affair could be a cover for the real story on why he resigned.

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Response to sandyshoes17 (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:49 PM

45. +1000

nt

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Response to sandyshoes17 (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:32 PM

54. That's what I've been thinking since learning about Cantor's involvement.

His silence before the election clearly wasn't intended to help Obama. Perhaps when he notified the FBI he thought the affair was the extent of it & that it could be used as an October surprise, but when he later learned that the situation was more than meets the eye, he kept quiet about it in order to protect his own disgusting party.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:04 PM

6. I said in another thread, I think she's the real person of interest in

the affair, more so than Petraeus. I cannot get over the fact that she knew she was being investigated for having an affair with the CIA director, sending harrassing emails, and possessing classified material illegally--and yet she wasn't laying low, hoping the story would not go public and ruin her life and career. No, she was very public, in fact giving speeches about CIA involvement in Benghazi. WHO TOLD HER SHE WOULDN'T GET INTO ANY TROUBLE FOR HER AFFAIR AND RELATED ACTIVITIES? She had so much to lose, personally and professionally. She could be prosecuted criminally under the UCMJ.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:19 PM

17. Thanks, TwilightG.....I never saw it put exactly that way.

Now I'm really scratching my head. There is at least one other piece to all this that we don't know yet.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:30 PM

20. Add to that the fact that SHE GRADUATED WEST POINT:

A place where HONOR is EVERYTHING.

I mean, WTF???

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Response to cliffordu (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:50 PM

23. She's no dingbat, and no newbie to how the military runs--

and she knows what having a high security clearance entails, being an intelligence officer. She certainly knows that everything she did was wrong, from the classified stuff to the affair. I am willing to bet she felt in some way protected or immune from her own actions. I don't think Petraeus used her for anything other than sex and companionship. I think she used him for way more.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #23)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:16 PM

53. +111111

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:58 PM

29. +1

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:07 PM

8. K&r...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:08 PM

10. Indeed

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:16 PM

11. k/r

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:17 PM

12. I'm a pretty good "rat smeller", but I missed that one.

Thanks for pointing it out to me.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:22 PM

13. This will be the GOP's Fabreez moment.

As the day progresses,notice all the new info coming. Rove,Gergen,Cantor,Reihecrt,Broadwell,Izza,and maybe others. Holy Willard a rat is loose,call pest control. Turd Blossum finally going to the Crowbar Hotel????

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:25 PM

14. I hope for Rove's sake this isn't true.

He pisses off the Koch brothers AND the CIA October surprise he was suppose to deliver backfires on him. Now he has an ex-CIA director that is holding a grudge.

God help Rove if the Koch brothers give Petraeus a call. "Soz we hear we have a mutual problem..."

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:24 PM

18. I wish that scenario was TRUE, and that someone will finally blow the whistle on this AND

about inside knowledge of rove stealing elections. He'd look so much better with concrete shoes wading through the Potomac.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:50 PM

46. Why would you "hope for Rove's sake" about ANYTHING? Why should "God help" that evil man?

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #46)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:59 PM

50. I figured it would pass the jury censors.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:41 PM

15. what a tangled web we weave....

Hi, everyone! I'm new here. Trying to figure things out.

Petraeus, Rove, and Paula Broadwell= I smell fish and it ain't Friday!

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Response to SouthernGirl2 (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:42 PM

16. Welcome to DU.

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Response to SouthernGirl2 (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:51 PM

24. Welcome to DU, SouthernGirl2!

Your first post! VERY cool! We're glad to have you here! Just start looking and reading around, and you'll be an (extremely well-informed) expert in no time! Which is a good thing because we need ALL HANDS helping to solidify what we gained last Tuesday, and build upon it for 2014 and beyond!

And I love that "petraeus, rove and paula broadwell = I smell fish and it ain't Friday!" I've never trusted petraeus very much anyway. He came to prominence during the bush/cheney years.

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Response to SouthernGirl2 (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:51 PM

25. welcome to DU!

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Response to SouthernGirl2 (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:10 PM

33. Welcome to DU!

Come on in!

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Response to SouthernGirl2 (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:54 PM

49. Welcome To DU! n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:38 PM

21. This is palace intrigue to the max -- and we will never know what really happened

Two things are certain -- the official story won't be the real story and whatever happens will be to protect "The Agency."

There are a lot of knives out in both Langley and DC. Best just to stand back and let them have at each other.

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:49 PM

22. That's an interesting point and a good one. If Patreaus could be separated, in the press accounts,

 

from the CIA so that the agency would not feel threatened by the former Head's downfall and collectively reassured the status quo would be maintained as to agency functions and funding, then Gen'l P. would be abandoned.
Don't frame this as a threat to the agency, frame Patraeus as the threat to the agency, and then you'd see all sorts of information leaked to the media, in my opinion.

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:55 PM

28. Well we know the FBI and CIA have never

Liked each other, so we might hear more just because of each side throwing blame....

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Response to marlakay (Reply #28)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:46 PM

55. I especially like that aspect of this story.

The timeline is most interesting as it relates to the election; the story came out immediately after Obama's huge victory. I'm beginning to wonder if this could turn out to be another bin-laden-ish coup (against the Republicans) for Obama after it's been unfolded. Funny how the Republicans are beginning to talk about "working together".

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:53 PM

26. I thought that the whistle blower came from Florida

 

Reichert is a Washington congressman.

Interesting ideas that should be looked into. It looks like it could be ratfucking of the Liddy kind.

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Response to Anthony McCarthy (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:00 PM

31. No, the gal in FL is a gal-pal of Petraeus and his wife at MacDill.

She reported threatening emails, traced back to Broadwell and Petraeus. The whistleblower is an unknown LEAKER from the FBI who leaked to Reichert about the ongoing investigation. Reichert in turn told Cantor.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:25 PM

39. OK, now that smells like a rat

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:55 PM

27. Please help me understand something here.

How is it that that weasel eric cantor gets this information before the President does?

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Response to calimary (Reply #27)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:00 PM

30. Because source from FBI told

Dave Reichert congressman from WA sate, who called Cantor's chief of staff and told him....who then told Cantor who called FBI.....

All behind obama's back supposedly.....

And just so you know Dave the congressman had a lot of FBI contacts because of working for years on a serial murder case before he was elected....

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Response to marlakay (Reply #30)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:08 PM

32. Why am I smelling murder charges? Nawwwwwww!

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Response to marlakay (Reply #30)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:12 PM

36. King County Sheriff forever

No doubt he has contacts in Law Enforcement.

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Response to calimary (Reply #27)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:44 PM

43. An FBI agent thought they stonewalling the investigation

went to Reichert(who's a former cop) told Cantor.


F.B.I. agent who had helped get a preliminary inquiry started, and learned of Mr. Petraeus’s affair and the initial concerns about security breaches, became frustrated. Apparently unaware that those concerns were largely resolved, the agent alerted the office of Representative Eric Cantor, Republican of Virginia, the House majority leader, about the inquiry in late October. Mr. Cantor passed on the agent’s concerns to Mr. Mueller.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/12/us/us-officials-say-petraeuss-affair-known-in-summer.html?pagewanted=2&hp

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Response to SpartanDem (Reply #43)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:24 AM

59. Partisan pipsqueaks.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:10 PM

34. When the shit starts coming their way, let's see if Fox wants to keep up the Benghazi thing

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:12 PM

35. K&R

And now, the plot really sickens!

That scumsucking shitbag belongs in jail.(KKKarl)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:18 PM

37. Can I have the movie rights to all this?

Huh? Huh? Please - please - please?

Just kidding! Paula Broadwell's book on Petraeus sold like hotcakes on Amazon after the scandal broke; no doubt she will cut a deal - even if it is from (short term) prison - and grab the movie rights for herself.

Pretty Woman, with all her connections, will come out of this smelling like a rose. I really feel sorry for her kids: How many moms willingly leave their young children for a year to do a biographical book in Afghanistan? Especially those who have never written a book before?

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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #37)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:53 PM

47. The top security clearance won out over lack of authorship me thinks. n/t

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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #37)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:54 PM

48. IMO, she was a mistress who travelled with the General in the guise of writing. She DID have a "co-

author", cough, cough.

She also was a Rove operative, to give Republicans insider info on, say, Benghazi.

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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #37)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:05 PM

57. It's going to be an awesome movie, all right.

I'm working on titles....

All In And Out.

The General's Biographer

The Paula and the Patreaus

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:20 PM

38. You mean, a third rat

We already know who two of the rats are.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:28 PM

40. Ametia here- First time commenter

How Everyone! Ametia here. I'm with SG2 from 3 Chics Poltico. We enjoy your threads and especially the photo shops.. You guys and gals ROCK! First time ever commenting. *skips to corner & waits for pellets* LOL

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Response to Ametia (Reply #40)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:39 PM

41. Welcome to DU Ametia

I just wandered over to the 3chics site and had a look around. Nice work! Looking forward to reading your perspective on things. Dive right in anywhere and start posting.

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Response to Ametia (Reply #40)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:04 PM

56. Welcome to DU, Ametia!



I enjoy the photoshops, too.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:42 PM

42. Look at her! I think she's Katherine Harris's long lost lovechild! She looks just like her!

She creeps me out.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:48 PM

44. Start the Countdown...

Petraeus is now a private citizen. As such, he is now a target for Congressional Subpoena.
And cue the car thief, Darryl (and his other brother, Darryl) Issa.

Nice nose, kpete. You should change your name to BloodHound.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:43 PM

51. More pieces for the puzzle:

1. Who brought the FBI into it, and why? According to Richard Engel, the CIA handles its own security issues. Also according to Engel, Petraeus was not well-liked by the careerists at CIA. He was not a company man, and furthermore had brought with him an inner circle of managers from his military career. Engel seemed to imply that Petraeus' CIA opponents might have brought in the G-men. But why?

2. Why would Petraeus, a man of legendary discipline, and one with great political skill, go all mushy and admit to an extramarital affair? He could have just said "I have a family emergency and must resign. It has been a pleasure to serve the country and I hope that the Agency is stronger for my efforts". That he admitted to an affair seems to me to be a bright shiny object dangled in front of the public to distract from potentially more explosive issues, for example, collaboration with Republican operatives using Broadwell as an intermediary.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:20 PM

52. What day in this timeline did Romney start getting security briefings?

I recall it was sometime right after the Repub convention.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #52)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:31 PM

58. Not long after the attack at Benghazi (edited)

if I remember correctly. That was on 9/11. A few days later I think.

I'll try to confirm unless someone else shows up first.

edit to add: I found news reports it was in the works the end of August and appears to have begun around Sept. 14th.

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Response to Cerridwen (Reply #58)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:35 PM

62. That's what I was wondering-if it was before or after Benghazi.

Thanks!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:46 AM

60. Karl Rove is America's

greatest threat to democracy. He is also looking more like cornered rat. Having had his clock cleaned in the elections, Karl could be laying the groundwork for an impeachment. Remember this is the Party that impeached a president for not disclosing lurid and graphic details of an extramarital affair.
At some point Rove will have to be neutralized. Who does it and why will make a great movie and book.
Keep in mind, suicide is in Rove's immediate family, his mother in 1981.
When the Bush cartel sees Karl as a threat he'll be dispatched.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:48 AM

61. More like a nest of rats.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:13 PM

63. just found this - no idea who this guy is, but lots of information

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