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Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:50 PM

Well, well, well, Paula Broadwell is well-connected with... David Gergen

And David Gergen is, as Andrew Sullivan pointed out, well connected with Bain capital.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/18/david-gergen-bain-capital-cnn_n_1682257.html

Paula Broadwell is a research associate at Harvard's Center for Public Leadership (see her credits at the bottom of the article here: http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/01/13/travels_with_paula_i_a_time_to_build ) who is headed by Gergen.

Just one step away from Romney, she was.

This photo is starting to make a lot more sense now:


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Reply Well, well, well, Paula Broadwell is well-connected with... David Gergen (Original post)
berni_mccoy Nov 2012 OP
sandyshoes17 Nov 2012 #1
exboyfil Nov 2012 #2
Tutonic Nov 2012 #6
MADem Nov 2012 #10
dmr Nov 2012 #21
seabeyond Nov 2012 #23
MADem Nov 2012 #40
exboyfil Nov 2012 #16
CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #25
bvar22 Nov 2012 #33
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #30
monmouth3 Nov 2012 #3
Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #4
Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #5
flamingdem Nov 2012 #7
MADem Nov 2012 #12
flamingdem Nov 2012 #15
MADem Nov 2012 #17
Whisp Nov 2012 #27
flamingdem Nov 2012 #32
MADem Nov 2012 #41
snagglepuss Nov 2012 #20
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #8
PearliePoo2 Nov 2012 #9
berni_mccoy Nov 2012 #13
MADem Nov 2012 #14
Carolina Nov 2012 #11
Whisp Nov 2012 #28
aletier_v Nov 2012 #31
Carolina Nov 2012 #34
Carolina Nov 2012 #35
Whisp Nov 2012 #36
Carolina Nov 2012 #37
Whisp Nov 2012 #38
2naSalit Nov 2012 #18
struggle4progress Nov 2012 #19
UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #22
berni_mccoy Nov 2012 #24
Whisp Nov 2012 #26
2naSalit Nov 2012 #29
SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #39
amandabeech Nov 2012 #42
avaistheone1 Nov 2012 #43

Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:59 PM

1. Looks like it all fell apart

when Rmoney lost.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:01 PM

2. Looks like this can be a real tar baby

for the Republicans if they are not careful.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:03 PM

6. hmmmm.....

Tar baby...Really?

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Response to Tutonic (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:07 PM

10. Didn't McCain use that antiquated and most unfortunate term?



It's like being in an old Disney cartoon...!




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Response to MADem (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:04 PM

21. So did Rep Doug Lamborn, Pat Buchanan and Mitt Romney

Just Googled it and found this:

- snip-
Last week, Rep. Doug Lamborn (R) of Colorado, on a Denver talk radio show, said, “Even if some people say, ‘Well, the Republicans should have done this or they should have done that,’ they will hold the president responsible. Now, I don’t even want to have to be associated with him. It’s like touching a tar baby and you get it, you’re stuck, and you’re a part of the problem now and you can’t get away.”

The term tar baby comes from the 19th-century Uncle Remus stories, where B'rer Fox uses a doll made of a lump of tar to trap B'rer Rabbit, who gets more stuck the more he pummels and kicks the tar baby. In more recent parlance, tar baby is widely considered racial slur.

Other Republicans, including Sen. John McCain of Arizona and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, have in recent years apologized for using the phrase "tar baby," although in reference to various government policies and projects, not a black man.

And then Tuesday night, former GOP presidential candidate and MSNBC contributor Pat Buchanan, in a tête-à-tête with the Rev. Al Sharpton, referred to Mr. Obama as "your boy." “My what?” the Rev. Mr. Sharpton shot back. “My president, Barack Obama? What did you say?”

More at link: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0803/What-were-two-Republicans-thinking-calling-Obama-tar-baby-and-boy

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Response to dmr (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:22 PM

23. Michele Bachmann Says President Obama ‘Waving A Tar Baby In The Air’

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Response to dmr (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:52 PM

40. They oughta just rename it the damn "Zippidy Doo Dah" Party and be done with it! nt

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Response to Tutonic (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:28 PM

16. The term doe not have racial ovetones

when you consider it originates with an African story of an African hero trapped by a "tar baby". Other cultures have similar legends. Just because the term is used in a racially insensitive manner does not mean that it cannot be used to refer to this situation. It is the right analogy for the situation.

I will not stop using words like cracker and spook because some use them in racially insensitive ways.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:09 PM

25. Agreed.

As an African American, I understand the intended context of the term, and am not offended by its correct use just because some likely racist RWers want to attach the image to President Obama.

Indeed this situation IS a RW tar baby - with no African Americans involved.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:07 PM

33. Joel Chandler Harris, the author of Song of the South...

...and creator of the popular version of Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby
was a "racial reconciliation activist writer and journalist of the Reconstruction era".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_the_South

Anyone who closes their mind and literary experience to his works, or the works of Twain and others, is MISSING a rich Historical, Social, and Cultural experience.


Like many other words and phrases, "Tar Baby" CAN and HAS been used as a racial epithet, but this is not ALWAYS the case.
In the post above, it was used in its correct context.

Once you touch the Tar Baby, you can't let go.
The harder you try, the worse it gets.
It gets ALL over you, and you can't wash it off.


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Response to exboyfil (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:25 PM

30. Incoming!

You are so going to get blasted for the tar baby reference.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:01 PM

3. She certainly does get around...n/t

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:02 PM

4. Oh what a tangled web we weave ...

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:03 PM

5. Special Prosecutor needed re Karl Rove and the GOP elite.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:04 PM

7. Feinstein seems to be leading the charge

On msnbc w/Andrea Mitchell now

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:13 PM

12. I wouldn't be surprised if there's another woman in this mix.

I'm not talking about Paramour Broadwell, or Whistleblower Kelley.

I think, after Broadwell and Petraeus parted ways in July-ish, there was another woman on the scene.

I don't know why I think this, but I can't shake this sense.

The whole "angry My Man emails" thing with Kelley just seems very 'odd' to me.

It will be interesting to see who accompanied Petraeus to Libya...

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Response to MADem (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:18 PM

15. Broadwell has analytical skills so she saw something

She's not a dingbat, just unstable, two different things imo

We'll probably never get confirmation about the Kelly relationship though.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:43 PM

17. I don't think there was any relationship with Kelley, save what has been touted.

An entirely above-board, "couples" acquaintanceship, based on professional associations.

The Kelley woman was a social director, a protocol officer, in essence. Odds are good her relationships--her very professional relationships--bring her closer to the WIVES of the flag/general officers than they do the one-through-four stars. Protocol officers have to not only deal with the protocol officers of the other VIPS/execs their bosses associate with, they also have to deal with the wives (nowadays, husbands, too, as the upper ranks slowly integrate more female generals/admirals) to make sure that everyone is on the same page. If these courtesies are not offered, it can be ugly. If a social director/protocol officer doesn't make these connections, he or she will have trouble doing the job.

If you look at the widely published picture of the Kelley and the Petraeus couples, you'll see Ms. Kelley standing beside Mrs. Petraeus, well separated from the General. Not that a picture can always tell us a thousand words, but my sense is there was no frigging in the rigging with Kelley and the General at all. Kelley's twin sister? Who knows, but I doubt that, too.


This photo, taken by reporter Amy Scherzer for the Tampa Bay Times, shows (left to right) Jill Kelley’s twin sister, Gen. David Petraeus, Scott Kelley, Jill Kelley, and Holly Petraeus.




Photos from http://www.poynter.org/how-tos/newsgathering-storytelling/visual-voice/195166/the-photos-tell-a-different-story-of-david-petraeus-jill-kelley/


I think there may have been a THIRD woman; a replacement that took the place of Broadwell back in July. I think Broadwell might have THOUGHT the "new woman" was Kelley, but she was mistaken--it's someone else entirely.

Diane Feinstein wants to see Petraeus's trip report/travel orders to Libya. Was this person on that trip, I wonder?

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:14 PM

27. kelly has an identical twin sister and Petraeus

 

probably banged them both at once.

yeh, I went there.

and I think he would too.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #27)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:13 PM

32. I don't put it past him

lol - you know what I bet he doesn't regret anything he's done, his career was ending anyway

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Response to Whisp (Reply #27)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:54 PM

41. I don't think so. Really. I think Kelley, as a social director/social climber at McDill, was

more interested in ingratiating herself with the military/SES/executive SPOUSES. Look at the pics and how she positions herself--she's making sure that Holly Petraeus is her "new best friend."

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Response to MADem (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:59 PM

20. That is my suspicion as well.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:05 PM

8. It seems she does like her older men

or the power they wield

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:06 PM

9. I don't see WHY she would want to take down Petraeus, (if that was her intent).

He's a freakin' God to the ReThugs.

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Response to PearliePoo2 (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:14 PM

13. Don't think that was her intent.

I think she intended to manipulate Petraeus. And I think she may have become attached to him (thus the harassing emails from her). Whatever the initial intent was, it backfired and Petraeus lost his career over it.

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Response to PearliePoo2 (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:18 PM

14. She takes herself down, if that were the case--she's in enormous trouble.

Classified material on a home computer--that's a BIG Bozo No No.

Never mind that "adultery" is in the UCMJ, and we've got "conduct unbecoming" --as evidenced by those batshit crazy emails--when it comes to her behavior with regard to the McDill Protocol/Social Director.

Her military career is in very grave jeopardy. I don't think it will survive, and she could end up doing time.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:08 PM

11. train wreck for

the home wrecker.

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Response to Carolina (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:16 PM

28. Petraeus is a home wrecker as well.

 

Let's not get all 50's here.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #28)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:27 PM

31. oh right, blame the victim. :)

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:26 PM

34. Spare me, women who knowingly consort

with married men are not innocent victims. And this one certainly is not given that the whole thing blew up in her face (and his... what karma) because of her threatening emails to someone she perceived as a rival for his affection. She's so special... how dare he have, or seem to have, someone else!

Fuck her; I have no pity for this woman and women like her who leave hurt wives, wrecked families... in their wake. Sure, the men are largely at fault and I do not exonerate them one bit. But women like her are something I cannot say on this board or I'll be flamed or alerted on.

The only victim here is Mrs. Petraeus!

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Response to Whisp (Reply #28)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:33 PM

35. Petraeus is a dick

but women who willingly consort with married men are not innocent victims. And this one certainly is not given that the whole thing blew up in her face (and his... what karma) because of her threatening emails to someone she perceived as a rival for his affection. She's so special... how dare he have, or seem to have, someone else!

Fuck her; I have no pity for this woman and women like her who leave a wake of hurt, betrayal, and wrecked families... While the men are at fault and I do not exonerate them one bit, women like her are something I cannot say on this board or I'll be flamed or alerted on.

The only victim here is Mrs. Petraeus! And that's not 1950s. Ask any woman who's been in her shoes in 1990, 2000, or 2012

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Response to Carolina (Reply #35)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:44 PM

36. so you give women more responsibility than men

 

in this? hmm, I don't.

I remember my old aunts saying stuff like that:
homewrecker,
pregnant? then why'd you spread your legs?
if you can't keep yer man happy then of course he will roam!
all men cheat, it is their nature

all that kind of shit I heard in my early years as a young girl/woman. Thankfully I didn't listen to those ignorant assholes because ultimately what they do is give men a pass.

I am teaching my daughter much different than what I heard from those teabaggers.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #36)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:24 PM

37. oh puhleeze

can you read?! They are BOTH culpable, and I said such, but I still stand by what I said about women consorting with MARRIED men.

Can't wait to see what you say/feel about the woman who wrecks your/your daughters marriage!

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Response to Carolina (Reply #37)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:28 PM

38. how about men 'consorting' with married women?

 

she was married, you know that?

I didn't get the sense of equal responsibility from your posts at all.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:47 PM

18. A useful tool...

I have some thoughts about these connections.

a) Broadwell may not have sent these emails, anyone actually seen them? Could just be hear-say fodder for the media.
b) Corporate media is well known for stinky smokescreens to cover up even more stinky stuff, we should be more skeptical by now, shouldn't we?
c) So the victim of the alleged nasty emails is a friend of the family and has a nice, tidy life with a much hotter partner than the general with little motivation outside the fact that she's a 1%er too, and she's not taking a fall, just a cog in the wheel.

I think this story is a smokescreen to a much larger issue that has everything to do with how bad mittens looked all through the summer, it called for a larger strategy. After his 47% party revelations in May (and where else but the alleged nasty email victim's hometown and where the general had lived for years among the Cheneyites?), my thinking is that the audience at that party went to work finding ways to take the prez down at all costs, and some were willing to take a faux fall for the cause. Too many cozy alliances... like the picture at the top of this thread implies. Why would this alleged paramour be so cozy with the Ham?

This web tool is very helpful in discovering who is connected to whom, check it out and do some investigating on your own. There are some real eye openers to discover. (just double-click on any entity with an "x" in the upper right-hand corner and the map will reconfigure to highlight the connections to that entity... very revealing, connect the the dots! There's a key to how to use the tool on the right panel of each page.)

http://www.muckety.com/David-H-Petraeus/22415.muckety

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:47 PM

19. meh. maybe she and mr cia topdog were just effin for the fun of it

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:18 PM

22. Was Paula Broadwell really trying to spy on Patraeous for The GOP?

Report back to Cantor?

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Response to UCmeNdc (Reply #22)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:06 PM

24. Hard to say what the motive was.

But I think there are more than enough data points out to start asking serious questions of ALL who are involved, even if indirectly.

The following people should be investigate:

Rove, Cantor, Broadwell, Issa, King, Romney (and his campaign staff), the list goes on.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:12 PM

26. omg... please please please let some of these heads roll.

 

*this atheist gets down on her knees and prays some of these devils are outed for what they really are.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:24 PM

29. Good Lord...

Has anyone read her tripe at the second link above? She sounds like Caribou Barbie with half a brain and epaulets! Jesus. Get her into a lock-down ASAP! I think she was acting as an apologist for the general given his "scorched earth" methodology of fighting the Taliban and AQ. Talk about dangerous, now I am sure there was something wreaking of dead fish regarding a destruction course for Obama, orchestrated to pop like a zit at election time..

No wonder HamRove looks so pleased with her, and sucking in his gut to look good with her. Psychopaths stick together.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #29)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:52 PM

39. Libya, insider, made it worse than they intended

That's what I think was the destruction course for Obama.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:06 AM

42. David Gergen appeared extremely agitated on Wolf Blitzer's CNN program today.

He was on a panel discussing this matter.

Gergen was very upset that the FBI would dig deep into someone's e-mail based on a non-threatening e-mail sent by that someone.

Me thinks that Gergen has some stuff in his e-mail that he or someone else don't want to go public.

Nonetheless, I think that there is a real civil liberties issue here. The FBI went over the line in part because the agent seemed to want a closer relationship with the recipient of Broadwell's not exactly threatening e-mail.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:48 PM

43. Good catch, Berni.

Paula likes powerful men. She perhaps flirted and massaged David Gergen's ego as well...and perhaps more.

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