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Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:39 AM

Companies downsizing because of Obamacare hurt themselves and help the competition

Companies laying off employees and cutting on working hours just because they refuyse to adapt and allow employees to have healthcare will significantly hurt their bottom line and give their competitors to produce more and eventually knock them out of contention. We should identify and support companies that value their employees as much as their profits. Obamacare helps companies save a lot on healthcare because of the many prevetatve provisions in it in the long term and you would have to be a short sighted, fox-brainwashed nut to thinkl it will hurt your profits.

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Reply Companies downsizing because of Obamacare hurt themselves and help the competition (Original post)
wt1531 Nov 2012 OP
seabeyond Nov 2012 #1
southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #3
seabeyond Nov 2012 #4
JustAnotherGen Nov 2012 #2
Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #5

Response to wt1531 (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:41 AM

1. yep. let them throw their tantrum, make their political statement at the cost of employees.

and then let them lose the customers and feel the voice of the people.

i agree.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:58 AM

3. You know this petty issue is going to be a short term problem. Think about it.

 

People going to eat at these places aren't going to sit around waiting for cooks and waitress to bring their meals when they have so long for work.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:16 AM

4. as a business person, i immediately saw all the inherently childish moves of this. you are right.

and yet... the more i hear this story escalate the more pissed i get at these mens public tantrum.

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Response to wt1531 (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:52 AM

2. The WSJ

Had a great article in September -

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303561504577494582381825186.html


It's a good one to counter wingnuts with.

My husband loves loves love this statement:

Overall, about 71% of firms with 10 to 24 employees offered health insurance in 2011, compared with 77% in 2001, according to a 2011 Kaiser Family Foundation survey. Of firms with three to nine workers, just 48% offered insurance in 2011, compared with 58% in 2001.


It's completely possible to offer health insurance and not hurt your bottom line . . . IF you are an ethical business person with a concept of a healthy worker is a happy worker held close to your heart.


He can't wait for that tax deduction for having done the right thing to kick in.

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Response to wt1531 (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:38 AM

5. This was my first thought on Murray Energy

He didn't have 153 additional workers because he was giving away cash, he had them because he had shifts that needed to be filled. Laying them off was shooting himself in the foot and then reloading to do it 152 more times.

Not to mention what the loss of jobs is going to do in his community when the ripple effect takes place.

The man is a Moron.

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