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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:32 PM

Hey guys, you know that the republicans aren't going to change, right? nt

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Reply Hey guys, you know that the republicans aren't going to change, right? nt (Original post)
warrior1 Nov 2012 OP
HERVEPA Nov 2012 #1
silvershadow Nov 2012 #2
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #4
Phentex Nov 2012 #18
jody Nov 2012 #3
TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #6
jody Nov 2012 #9
TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #19
jody Nov 2012 #20
ohnoyoudidnt Nov 2012 #12
jody Nov 2012 #13
ohnoyoudidnt Nov 2012 #14
jody Nov 2012 #15
ohnoyoudidnt Nov 2012 #17
frogmarch Nov 2012 #5
Incitatus Nov 2012 #7
spanone Nov 2012 #8
morningfog Nov 2012 #10
Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #11
Walk away Nov 2012 #16

Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:34 PM

1. Yep. Despite Facebook friends counseling being nice to them now. They are delusional.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:34 PM

2. By the time the next election gets here, they will be claiming they have been rallying in support of

Hispanics and other immigrants for decades agains Democratic obstruction. Watch for it. Yes, I realize this is absurd. They are the party of absurdity, so I fully expect it.

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Response to silvershadow (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:38 PM

4. You're probably correct....

they are certainly the party of absurdity.

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Response to silvershadow (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:44 AM

18. Yep. It will be interesting

To see how they court the Hispanic vote while exporting them at the same time.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:38 PM

3. And we Democrats aren't going to change so is it impossible to govern a multi-racial, multi-cultural

 

society?

Even if one side achieves a simple majority, does that justify the tyranny of a majority over minorities?

What does that mean for natural, inherent, unalienable/inalienable rights declared by PA (1776) and VT (1777)?

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Response to jody (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:44 PM

6. It isn't about a multi-cultural, multi-racial society those are what we pretend to fight over

to allow broad prosperity and opportunity to remain impossible.

The fight is always about the money and the power and those with it use the rest as a carrot to draw enough voters and public support to keep the wealth funnel going.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:47 PM

9. Define the opposing political forces anyway you choose, if they are hopelessly divided and polarized

 

my question still stands.

How can anyone govern such a society?

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Response to jody (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:03 AM

19. Since governing doesn't mean give everyone what they want, you do what is best for the many

at the expense of the few and separate enough of the pawns from their masters or lose and have to get back on the horse and try again and again and again.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:49 AM

20. "do what is best" is the hard part. Nations cannot yet pay for 100% conception to grave care for an

 

unlimited number of people.

That will require some form of rationing as Obama has said several times but no one has proposed an acceptable compromise solution.

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Response to jody (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:00 PM

12. Yes, the majority can by tyrannical. Nothing is going to change that.

I'm glad that right now the growing majority supports things like reproductive rights, marriage rights, the right to quality and affordable health care, and is making some progress on the injustices of the asinine war on drugs. If people who oppose that progress somehow feel oppressed, then that is how they are going to feel.

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Response to ohnoyoudidnt (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:03 PM

13. History suggests what starts out as a "Tyranny of the Majority" can become a "Tyranny of a Minority".

 

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Response to jody (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:05 PM

14. I'm glad Romney lost. nt

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Response to ohnoyoudidnt (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:12 PM

15. I support maximum individual freedom in a society governed to achieve goals that benefit most

 

citizens that cannot be obtained through individual freedom.

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Response to jody (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:56 AM

17. I support maximum individual freedom to the extent

that a balance of equality and fairness can be maintained for all individuals.

Creating rights for many requires restrictions for some, like the right to clean air and water requires restricting an industry's right to pollute. The right to health care will require restrictions on providers.

I don't want religious groups to be oppressed like they have oppressed others or the wealthy treated unjustly for being wealthy.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:43 PM

5. Yes. Here's the song I

hope everyone, everywhere, keeps in mind with regard to republican politicians.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:45 PM

7. That's okay. It's like Bill Maher said:

"Republicans have the same problem as the Beach Boys: Their fans are dying." The numbers of racists and bigots are diminishing.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:47 PM

8. the media is already doing all they can to prop them up in their time of sorrow....

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:49 PM

10. Of course not. Which is why they should be steam rolled. The people have spoken.

Time to get progressive.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:52 PM

11. Right

Won't change but may disappear

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:14 PM

16. You should check out the Chris Christie love around here.

DUers acting like he Obama junior. He is the worst Governor we have ever had. He has single handedly begun the destruction of one of the highest rated school systems in the country. Many billions of tax payer dollars have been handed to millionaires who support him and he is blocking Obama Care so he is a murderer but he is "The Man" around here.

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