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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:52 PM

Four Presidents in the last century have won 50%

of the vote twice: Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Reagan and Obama. Think about that, doesn't it warm your heart?

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Reply Four Presidents in the last century have won 50% (Original post)
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 OP
Pryderi Nov 2012 #1
ConnorMarc Nov 2012 #35
Cha Nov 2012 #2
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #3
Cha Nov 2012 #4
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #6
BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2012 #36
Care Acutely Nov 2012 #5
Coyotl Nov 2012 #44
CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #7
aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #8
druidity33 Nov 2012 #9
LisaL Nov 2012 #10
aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #18
SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2012 #23
SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2012 #24
aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #25
SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2012 #29
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #22
JaneyVee Nov 2012 #11
tarheelsunc Nov 2012 #12
JaneyVee Nov 2012 #16
aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #20
Blanks Nov 2012 #30
aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #13
JaneyVee Nov 2012 #17
aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #19
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #21
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #14
PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #15
pam4water Nov 2012 #26
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #28
emmadoggy Nov 2012 #27
Blanks Nov 2012 #31
leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #32
Selatius Nov 2012 #38
Blanks Nov 2012 #39
aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #33
Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #34
aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #37
Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #45
aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #46
NoPasaran Nov 2012 #40
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #42
NoPasaran Nov 2012 #43
Ter Nov 2012 #41

Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:54 PM

1. Yep!!! It does. n/t

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Response to Pryderi (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:28 AM

35. If I Ever Meet President Obama I'll Probably Break Down In Tears

I'll look him in the face, tell him how much I'm so very proud of him, hug him and shed some tears.

That's how much it warms my heart.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:18 PM

2. Good to know, Sekhmets Daughter! Thank you..

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:23 PM

3. You're welcome

But there is another kicker to this as well....the following is the rest of the quote:

"It pains me to say that, to put him in with those other three, but it's a fact." Bill Kristol

Can it get any better?

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:27 PM

4. The MOney Quote!

Too bad Kristol.. Roosevelt and Eisenhower would have liked Obama.

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:36 PM

6. Yes, they would have.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:31 AM

36. and I'll bet the pundits then were just as bad as Kristol

and his ilk are now

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:34 PM

5. Except for the Reagan part, but yeah

it does

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Response to Care Acutely (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:30 AM

44. The Reagan part make me really sick

I guess that was before senility awareness week

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:37 PM

7. Sure does!

And knowing it chaps the GOP's hide something awful is a bonus.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:08 PM

8. This shows everyone what a historic Presidency this really is.



Especially in this era, where it is much more difficult to win big elections compared to generations ago.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:19 PM

9. That leaves what, Clinton and Bush? nt.

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Response to druidity33 (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:19 PM

10. Clinton didn't because of Perot.

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Response to druidity33 (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:36 PM

18. Here are the results.

1992-Clinton 43%

1996-Clinton 49%



2000-Bush 48%*

2004-Bush 51%


1912-Wilson 42%
1916-Wilson 49%



*Lost popular vote but still won the Presidency


Since 1900, Nixon was also elected twice.

1968-43%
1972-61%

Everyone else was either a one term President, (Bush Sr., Carter, Ford, LBJ, Truman, Roosevelt(Teddy), Taft, Harding, Coolidge, Hoover,) or died in office (Kennedy).

Although it should be noted that Kennedy only had 49.7% of the vote during his election in 1960. So only rounding would make him eligible for this very exclusive club assuming he won re-election in 1964, which was very much in doubt.


As everyone can see, Obama now belongs in a very exclusive historic club in United States Presidential History.

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Response to aaaaaa5a (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:57 PM

23. Nixon won with 43%?

Must look that one up.

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Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #23)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:01 PM

24. Nixon 301 ev, Humphrey 191, Wallace 46

"The election results put Nixon in the White House, but under inauspicious circumstances. The third-party candidacy of George Wallace left Nixon with only 43 percent of the vote, hardly a popular mandate. Nixon received 31.7 million popular votes (301 electoral votes); Hubert Humphrey, the Democratic candidate, won 30.8 million votes (191 electoral votes); and Wallace's American Independent party drew 9.4 million votes (46 electoral votes). Nixon won what political scientists call a deviating election—that is, one in which the advantage in party identification remains with the party that lost the election. In Congress, Democrats enjoyed a 57-43 advantage in the Senate and a 243-192 advantage in the House, with Republicans picking up just five House seats to go along with their gain of six in the Senate. Nixon would face a Congress controlled by the opposition and could not rely on a party-based legislative strategy. Instead, he would have to put together shifting coalitions: sometimes center-right, linking most Republicans with the southern Democrats to pay off his debts to the South or to support his foreign policies, and sometimes center-left, with moderate Republicans joining liberal Democrats to pass his own version of modern and progressive Republican social welfare, economic, and environmental legislation. At least in domestic affairs, the Nixon presidency promised to be eclectic and unorthodox.

Read more: http://www.presidentprofiles.com/Kennedy-Bush/Richard-M-Nixon-The-1968-presidential-contest.html#ixzz2BxvyfKAN

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Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #23)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:08 PM

25. 1968 Presidential results


Republican-Richard M. Nixon/Spiro Agnew 43.4%

Democratic -Hubert H. Humphrey/Edmund Muskie 42.7%

American Independent-George Wallace/Curtis LeMay 13.5%


1968 was one of the closest Presidential elections in American history. It is not remembered as a close race because Nixon held an advantage in the electoral college. But as you can see, it was a very tight election. There were multiple states that could have gone either way by just a few votes. This loss was agonizing for Humphrey and the Democrats. Many thought they flat out blew the election.

For Nixon it was considered revenge, because he thought he had won the election in 1960 that was also absurdly close. In fact there are some historians that have taken a second look at that race and now believe Nixon may have been the popular vote winner against John F. Kennedy in 1960.

1960 official results
Kennedy 49.7%
Nixon 49.5%



As I said before, what Obama has accomplished in the last 4.5 years is truly a historic and rare accomplishment in Presidential history.

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Response to aaaaaa5a (Reply #25)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:15 PM

29. the discrepancy in the Electoral College and the Popular vote was never more pronounced.

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Response to druidity33 (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:44 PM

22. Clinton never received 50% of the vote

and Bush II only did it once, in 2004....remember he lost the popular vote in 2000.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:21 PM

11. Which Roosevelt? (Don't feel like Googling)

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:23 PM

12. Teddy Roosevelt wasn't President during the past century.

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Response to tarheelsunc (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:35 PM

16. D'oh! 1909. Sunday nights, where my mind goes on vacation.

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Response to tarheelsunc (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:39 PM

20. Teddy Roosevelt was elected President in 1904. nt

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Response to tarheelsunc (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:49 PM

30. He became president after McKinley was assasinated...

I believe in 1901.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:23 PM

13. FDR nt

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Response to aaaaaa5a (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:35 PM

17. Wow. Good company.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:38 PM

19. See my above post. Its more rare and historic than most realize nt.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:41 PM

21. FDR

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:32 PM

15. Another silly, meaningless statistic - not surprising that Bill Kristol finds it significant. n/t

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:26 PM

26. No not at all.

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Response to pam4water (Reply #26)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:03 PM

28. Too bad.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:33 PM

27. One other bit of trivia that I

heard on the radio the other day.

President Obama is now our third President in a row to be elected to two terms. This has only happened once before in our history. You have to go all the way back to Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe to find three 2-term presidents in a row.

Thought that was interesting.


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Response to emmadoggy (Reply #27)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:53 PM

31. That's even more interesting when you realize...

That Adams were the bookends and both of them were one term presidents.

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Response to Blanks (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:58 PM

32. Hopefully history doesn't repeat iself

 

Jeb Bush would be Obama's successor

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Response to leftlibdem420 (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:24 AM

38. There is talk of Jeb trying a run at 2016. The Republicans have few options to go with. nt

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Response to leftlibdem420 (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:21 AM

39. Actually history should have repeated itself...

Both Bushs would have been one term presidents.

That way the second wouldn't have been a one term president until after 8 years of Gore and 16 years of two other presidents.

It would still be another 12 years before George W. Bush served his one term. No way Cheney is around that long.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:17 AM

33. I'm such a political nerd! LOL!

Here is a list of all of the Presidents from 1900 to 2012.

Over that time span we have had 19 Presidents. (20 if you count Mckinley who was President from 1896-1901)

8 were 2 term Presidents

12 were 1 term Presidents

Only 4 were 2 term Presidents winning more than 50% of the popular vote both times

Amazingly 2 Presidents (Clinton/Wilson) were 2 term Presidents without winning a majority of the popular vote even once.

I also find it interesting regarding how little correlation there is between a huge popular vote win and whether or not you are a 2 term President or even a successful President.

For instance, LBJ was elected with 61% of the popular vote. It was one of the biggest landslides ever. But he was a one term President. Presidents Hoover (58%) and Harding (60%) were also elected with huge majorities and were one term Presidents. Historians rank Harding and Hoover largely as failures. Nixon was elected to a second term with 61% of the popular vote and was kicked out of office just 2 years later with abysmal approval ratings.

A huge popular vote margin does not always correlate to a successful Presidency. In fact its really no factor at all in determining a Presidents success.

Hoover was elected with 58% of the vote and was a failure. By contrast, Abraham Lincoln was elected with just 40% of the vote (Alabama, Mississippi and many southern states even refused to put him on the ballot) and he is the greatest President of all time.




2012-Obama 51%
2008-Obama 53%


2004-Bush 51%
2000-Bush 48%

1996-Clinton 49%
1992-Clinton 43%

1988-Bush 54% (One Term)

1984-Reagan 59%
1980-Reagan 51%


1976-Carter 49% (One Term)

1974-Ford (One Term)

1972-Nixon 61%
1968-Nixon 43%

1964-Johnson 61% (One Term)

1960-Kennedy 50% (49.7%/Died in office)

1956-Eisenhower 57%
1952-Eisenhower 55%


1948-Truman 50% (49.5%/One Term)


1944-Roosevelt 53%
1940-Roosevelt 55%
1936-Roosevelt 61%
1932-Roosevelt 57%


1928-Hoover 58% (One Term)

1924-Coolidge 54% (One Term)

1920-Harding 60% (One Term)

1916-Wilson 49%
1912-Wilson 42%

1908- Taft 52% (One Term)

1904-Roosevelt (Teddy) 56% (One Term)


The Presidents to win 2 terms with a majority of the popular vote are in bold. As everyone can see, what Obama accomplished Tuesday night is a very historic feat and rare accomplishment in Presidential history.


Reagan, Eisenhower, FDR, Obama......................... NOT BAD!

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Response to aaaaaa5a (Reply #33)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:28 AM

34. McKinley was assassinated in 1901

Teddy Roosevelt served out the rest of McKinley's term, then was elected in his own right in 1904.

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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #34)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:44 AM

37. Thanks!


I have made the correction!

It was a long post. And I think I got carried away counting my 4 year cycles. LOL!

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Response to aaaaaa5a (Reply #33)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:39 AM

45. Other random political trivia:

The sequence Clinton - Bush II - Obama represents only the second time in American history three consecutive presidents have been elected to two terms each. The last three were Jefferson, Madison and Monroe.

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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #45)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:54 AM

46. That is actually amazing stability given our

Current political climate. When I made my list I was a little surprised at how many non-two term Presidents there really were.

Kennedy, Ford, LBJ, Carter, Truman, Nixon, and Bush were all post WW2 Presidents who failed this task.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:29 AM

40. This isn't the last century

We're on a new one. President Obama has that distinction all to himself.

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Response to NoPasaran (Reply #40)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:31 AM

42. A century is any consecutive

100 year period. Also, we are in a new decade not a new century. The 21st Century began in 2001.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #42)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:28 AM

43. Yeah, but we have people in this thread

Going back to Teddy Roosevelt's presidency. . . more than a century ago however you figure it.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:37 AM

41. While great...

 

Obama is the only one in 100 years to win re-election with less of a percentage and EV's than his first run.

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