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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:49 PM

Grandparents Put Baby in Oven to Teach Dad a Lesson (no babies were harmed)



Okay, don't freak out; no babies were harmed in the production of this photo. It was the joke of some grandparents who set up this shot of their grandbaby in the oven to make a statement to their nervous son ... and it certainly makes a statement.

It's all sorts of disturbing at first glance, especially because there have be a few horrific cases involving children and ovens. But this one I honestly find pretty funny -- especially because of why the grandparents took this picture.

According to MSN, it was the first time the new dad had left his little baby, and he was all sorts of nervous, even though he was leaving grandparents in charge. Having raised him (or his wife?) and likely pretty confident in their abilities, grandma and grandpa had a little harmless fun and cooked up this joke to mock his mistrust.


You can just imagine how shocked the dad was to get it, and I'm sure some people will be outraged. But hopefully dad had a good laugh and realized the baby was in good hands. And side note: how cute is that baby?! You just want to eat those cheeks up ... okay, scratch that in this case, but he is adorable.

http://thestir.cafemom.com/baby/146314/grandparents_put_baby_in_oven

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Reply Grandparents Put Baby in Oven to Teach Dad a Lesson (no babies were harmed) (Original post)
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:51 PM

1. I don't find this funny at the least.

There have been children killed in microwaves, washing machines, dryers.
If I were the father I would not feel good leaving my child with people who stick him in the oven.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:54 PM

6. OK

 

I am glad to see I am not the only person finding this disturbing.

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Response to lalalu (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:15 PM

41. You are most definitely not the only one. This was so not funny. n/t

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Response to vaberella (Reply #41)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:25 PM

49. asked hubby. he glanced... nope. not funny. didnt take him a second. nt

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #49)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:19 PM

98. frightening and should be taken off

I feel like alerting actually!

Not funny at all.

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Response to lalalu (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:10 AM

165. uuggghhhh...no, you are not alone.

very creepy.

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Response to lalalu (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:29 AM

169. It's not like they put some sliced potatoes and carrorts around the babies belly

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Response to LisaL (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:21 PM

100. Absolutely agree, there

is NOTHING funny about this whatsoever. In fact, it's pretty sick and the grandparents who thought it'd be a neat joke are sick.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:01 AM

108. Agreed. Not funny.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:41 PM

130. Agree not funny. I would have been very, very angry that this was done...

Good thing no one ever did this with my little girl. She is 18 now and I still might not be out of jail.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:46 AM

175. It might not be that funny...

 

... but I fail to see what danger the child is in.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:52 PM

2. Grandma and Grandpa also have a secret room in the basement

 

where bizarre satanist rituals are performed. Seriously, WTF?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:53 PM

3. They would never see my baby again.

 

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Response to lalalu (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:54 PM

7. seriously?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:56 PM

8. Yes

 

I usually appreciate dark humor but this makes me feel very uneasy.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:14 PM

39. I second that. I would never let my child near these people again. n/t

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:21 PM

99. me too!!!!

not at all funny.

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Response to lalalu (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:55 PM

26. +1. They would never see me or my child again.

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Response to Care Acutely (Reply #26)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:47 PM

94. I can see being upset, but totally cutting yourself off from otherwise loving parents?

Warn them not to do it again. explain why it wasn't funny. Monitor them. But to cut off all contact?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:53 PM

4. And THAT'S why you never saw grandma an grandpa again

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:54 PM

5. If those were my parents they would never be left alone with my children again. Not fucking funny.

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Response to Happyhippychick (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:59 PM

10. I remember a case where a woman stuck her child in microwave and actually microwaved the baby.

Seriously, this shit could be dangerous and people shouldn't be making jokes like that.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:04 PM

14. It's not dangerous, if you're sane

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Response to SpartanDem (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:48 AM

177. Correct.. because sane people don't put babies in an oven.

" It's not dangerous, if you're sane..."

Correct.. because sane people don't put babies in an oven.

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Response to Happyhippychick (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:47 PM

89. Yep. Not the least bit funny. Horrifying. nt

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:59 PM

9. NOT FUNNY...

in any reality.



Tikki

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:01 PM

11. Wow. That's not the least bit funny.

It's actually quite disturbing.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:01 PM

12. I'm guessing you're not a grandparent or a parent

And i sure wouldn't leave my grandkid with you if you thought this funny.

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Response to HERVEPA (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:05 PM

15. pic was weird but then read Grandparents reasoning - They didn't mean any harm

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:50 PM

24. I'm with you. I can see the humor without any trouble to my conscience N/t

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:07 PM

34. Well, thank God they aren't Nazis! That really isn't the entire point, though, "not meaning harm."

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #34)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:13 PM

38. Amen...there is no logical reasoning for this behaviour.

I'm sure Romney meant no harm by putting his dog on the roof of his car.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #34)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:16 PM

96. "Not meaning harm" usually checks out ok when people also haven't done harm.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:02 PM

13. 9 Years For Man From Kansas Who Put Kids In Dryer

HUTCHINSON, Kan. (AP) - A man from Kansas has been sentenced for a third time for putting two young children in a hot clothes dryer to punish them, and his attorney says he plans to appeal the sentence again.

Aron Pritchard, from Hutchinson was convicted in March 2008 of child abuse and endangering a child for putting his girlfriend's 3-year-old son and 2-year-old daughter in a dryer and turning it on.

The Hutchinson News reports Pritchard initially was sentenced to 124 months in prison.

The case was sent to the Court of Appeals because of the lengthy sentence, but a new judge sentenced Pritchard to the same 124 months last year.

http://www.ktts.com/news/178549731.html

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:06 PM

16. cruel

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:11 PM

37. Did the kids die? Wouldn't they die from that treatment? n/t

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Response to vaberella (Reply #37)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:26 PM

58. I believe they survived.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:04 PM

116. The difference is he turned the dryer on, and the point was to actually cause them pain and distress

This is just a photo shoot. Oven not turned on. No pain. No distress. Maybe some mild discomfort.

I'm surprised at the outrage over this picture.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #116)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:30 PM

148. Not the point, it's a child porn genre.

Last edited Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:40 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2012/07/28/led-innocent-into-web-evil/Sk9VoLSnM9uQqZQAggmQJL/story.html
Sorry. See several paragraphs near end of article above Justice Abroad.

See http://protect.org/ on 'the Florida puppeteer story.'

Sorry again, third case:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/11/nj_man_charged_with_luring_tee.html
N.J. man charged with luring teenager discussed child cannibalism online, authorities say
By Jason Grant/The Star-Ledger
on November 21, 2012 at 9:51 AM, updated November 21, 2012 at 7:53 PM

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Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #148)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:28 AM

155. You're accusing the father of putting child porn on the reddit 'funny' pages?

Jesus, your post is the most ridiculous, outrageous and offensive one in this whole sorry thread. You can't just go around calling a picture of a baby in diapers 'porn'. The grandfather took the photo to make his son laugh. It worked. The son put the photo on reddit to make others laugh. It worked - though we now find there are many people who get outraged when others laugh. If you call that 'porn', you diminish the real problem of child porn.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #155)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:46 AM

159. Never said that, didn't read about the photo's context either. Not interested.

Just posted 2 relevant MSM links I came across in the recent past quoting a pair of recent FBI ICAC investigations. Obviously, the diaper makes the photo technically legal. Other disturbing aspects of the subtext remain.

Don't like it? Too bad.

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Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #148)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:48 AM

160. Whoa . . . that's a huge accusation

 

and in no way accurate.

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Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #160)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:58 AM

162. Whoa... making up crap.

"and in no way accurate."

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Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #162)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:05 AM

163. Oh so you didn't actually write:

 

148. Not the point, it's a child porn genre.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2012/07/28/led-innocent-into-web-evil/Sk9VoLSnM9uQqZQAggmQJL/story.html
Sorry. See several paragraphs near end of article above Justice Abroad.

See http://protect.org/ on 'the Florida puppeteer story.'


Thank goodness. That was a weird post.

Who wrote it?

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Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #163)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:36 AM

172. The PROP of an open oven with a baby or toddler inside was cited in both child porn arrest articles.

The context of similarly staged photos found on the computers of arrested child porn traffickers matters, even as in this case there is no allegation of illegality whatsoever because of the diaper.

What about a hypothetical photo of baby in a diaper with a ball gag? Restraints? Or otherwise by OVERLAPPING PROPS resembling the illegal photos found on the computers of extremely depraved individuals? I think you're sheltered and naive to defend any of it.

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Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #172)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:41 AM

174. One is a sexual situation

 

I don't think an oven is a sexual prop in the same way a ball gag is.

Do you?

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Response to redqueen (Reply #116)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:46 AM

158. I actually agree with you here

 

I think this is a first.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:26 PM

185. Had they turned on the oven that would be comparable

 

and they would deserve a lengthy sentence as well.

Since they didn't . . .

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:14 PM

17. I don't even like kids, and I find it wrong.

Not funny in the least.

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Response to NV Whino (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:58 PM

27. "I don't even like kids, and I find it wrong."

 

That was funny

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:23 PM

18. both sets of kids grandparents were sensitive enough to understand our trepidation as new parents.

especially my mom ensured i felt positive about leaving baby with her, not strike fear, for an immature funny.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:28 PM

19. No wonder the father was nervous about leaving his baby with them

Not in the least funny. I wouldn't leave my kids with them again.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:32 PM

20. Looks pretty sick to me

"Look how well we treated your baby! We made a roast out of him! Yeah, this is how Jeffrey Dahmer got his start and Jonathan Swift recommended Catholic babies as especially nourishing..."

Who the hell thinks this is a good idea? You're worried about your baby coming to harm so we'll simulate cooking him? What's next, the kid on a platter with steamed potatoes and a gravy boat?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:37 PM

21. Anybody who could even THINK of such a thing is a sick ticket.

 

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:45 PM

22. I don't think I'd find that funny.

Obviously the grandparents didn't mean any harm, and I don't think they particularly put the baby in danger, but sometimes practical jokes just aren't appropriate and new parent fears really shouldn't be made fun of. And that joke's in pretty poor taste. I know, I know, but I can't think of a better way to put it. Were I the dad, I wouldn't have gone ballistic, but I wouldn't have found it funny, either. I would just ask that my kid not be used in the course of a practical joke until he was old enough to actively participate.

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Response to GaYellowDawg (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:47 PM

23. I personally wouldn't leave my child alone with them ever again.

Who knows what joke they might think of next.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:52 PM

25. That's seriously fucked up

no joke.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:59 PM

28. call me sick then

but, I found this to be pretty amusing.

Part of what makes liberals a little less fun to be around is their inability to laugh! Lighten up a little! Jeez people...

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Response to chloes1 (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:06 PM

33. This is quite possibly the stupidest post ever on DU. Yeah, Liberals have an " inability to laugh."

Well, we're laughing AT YOU AND MITT AND ANN AND RYAN AND WHOEVERTHEHELL HE'S MARRIED TO AND ROVE AND O'REILLY AND BECK AND TRUMP AND .....

FRANKLY, WE'RE HAVING A LAFF-RIOT!!!

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Response to chloes1 (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:09 PM

36. Then you must have found it funny when Romney put the dog on a roof of a car?!

That was not funny and this is not funny.

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Response to vaberella (Reply #36)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:18 PM

45. Putting a baby in a squeaky clean over for a photo shot does not = dog on roof for 12 hrs

One is a photo shoot, the other abuse.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #45)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:31 PM

120. Both are abuse.

That image is frightening and revolting. Not funny.

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Response to vaberella (Reply #120)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:46 PM

122. OMG, so are THESE!!!!!

Creeeeeeeeepy


Unsafe for any age baby.


Poor babies!


What if this baby is allergic?


This is just cruel. Hypothermia sets in fast!



OMG, this poor baby has been forced into an unnatural position!


Child marriage is WRONG!!!!

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #122)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:19 PM

188. those are darling pics

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Response to vaberella (Reply #36)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:28 AM

168. No, that's not the same at all

If Romney had put the dog in its carrier strapped to the top of the car and posted a photo of that on Facebook joking that they were ready for their trip, but then taken the dog out and put the dog in the car for the trip, THAT would be the same thing, and it would be funny.

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Response to chloes1 (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:16 PM

42. i laugh at a whole hell of a lot of stuff. ugly isnt funny to me. what an absurd observation.

if ALL do not have your sense of humor, then there is something wrong with all the people. really? you dont see the ridiculousness of that statement.

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Response to chloes1 (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:17 PM

44. In this context, I find it funny also.

"you were afraid we wouldn't know what to do with your precious baby? We do. see?" Reading the article, as a joke between parents/kid, it is funny.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #44)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:29 PM

61. I agree.

I feel like so many here are missing the point. The way people here are reacting you'd think the oven was on, FFS.

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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #61)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:11 PM

77. No. We get what they were doing. We just don't find it amusing. My mother's side of the family did

shit like this and I didn't find it funny then and I don't find it funny now. There's a nastiness underlying it.

If the parents enjoyed the gag, then fine. I don't think the grandparents are necessarily bad or dangerous. I just think mocking your child for being nervous about his baby is not very empathetic.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #77)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:28 AM

111. Well, as someone who has had 4 kids

and was once a nervous first time mother, I just don't see this as mocking necessarily as much as it is just teasing. In our family, teasing was common. Now, maybe it was because teasing happened a lot, I wouldn't have thought much of this kind of thing and BTW, my mother did tease me a bit with my first, and i wasn't offended in the least. I KNEW she knew what she was doing, I was just being a bit overbearing. Now that I've had 4 I can definitely see that I was, and my mother was actually pretty understanding. I was a freak about breastfeeding and cloth diapers and if there would've been social media back then, and she'd have posted a picture of my daughter in disposable diapers and pretending to feed her formula, I'd have laughed knowing she wouldn't REALLY do that and she was just being cheeky.

I remember once my (now ex) h and I had dinner at his boss's house. His wife laughed at me for hovering over my then-only child and freaking out when she fell. This mother of 5 said, "Oh, boy can you tell this is your first child!" Well, I was totally offended and pissed off. 3 more kids after that I see that she was totally right. Sometimes we just need to get over ourselves. And this is coming from someone who believes strongly in validation and empathy. I just think the reaction here is a bit OTT considering there was no harm done at all. I just don't see it as being on par with, say, a grandmother who thinks her grandchild doesn't need a carseat because 'she raised her kids without them and they are fine' and against her daughter or son's wishes drives her grandchild to the store without one to prove a point. Not the same thing - at all. I don't think the reaction here is in line with what really happened, YMMV I suppose.

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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #111)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:59 PM

132. I get what you're saying. Two things, though. I'm not going to call it Stockholm syndrome exactly,

but there is something similar in that in families that use a lot of teasing--most family members are going to adapt it, whether or not they like it.

Some who grow up in this sort of atmosphere may just never have a problem with it. Others come to accept it, though they would much prefer one in which teasing wasn't so prevalent. Yet, they have no power to change it. They grow up and maybe perpetuate it in their own families.

Others don't like it and never learn to like it. They never adapt to it. They are forced to accept this treatment that makes them feel awful. They get ridiculed as a sissy or whatever is the equivalent female pejorative.

We each have our own level of tolerance. Something I might consider mild teasing, someone else might find mocking or even abusive. We don't get to decide that for others. Especially not for children, which is where the cycle can start.

We each have our own sense of humor. I am positive that some of the jokes my husband and I make when we are alone would be wildly offensive to some others. So, I have not, in this thread made any comment accusing anyone who finds this photo amusing of being sick, or creepy, or whatever. I have said I find this photo creepy.That's different.But I have been attacked, told I don't have a sense of humor because I expressed the fact that the photo does not amuse me, personally. Now that I find offensive.

If whoever posted it didn't want feedback, and they obviously knew there would be some negative feedback, why'd they post it? I understand the idea of overreaction. I think most people would even agree on roughly where that line is. But, looking at the responses here, I think this photo crosses that line. Doesn't make those who laugh at it evil, but it certainly doesn't make those who don't "pearl clutchers."

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #44)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:22 PM

81. You don't know these grandparents. Maybe the guy had good reason to be a little nervous about

leaving the baby with them.

From the article: "It is funny how new parents can be so nervous to leave their children with the very people who raised them."

What if the "very people who raised them" didn't do such a great job? Oh, right, I guess that never happens.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #81)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:27 PM

84. You don't know these grandparents either. Maybe the guy was just nervous without a reason

What if the "very people who raised them" did a great job? Oh, right, I guess that never happens.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #84)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:40 PM

87. Fail. And you know it.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #87)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:45 PM

88. Nope. It could go either way. Unless you know them personally, it could go either way. Fail back

at you.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #88)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:19 PM

93. Your post was pointless because you *failed* to recognize and/or acknowledge that your point was

the very same point I had just responded to--the one I quoted from the article. I never said nor implied that it was not possible that they were fine parents/grandparents. Quite the opposite, in fact. So why would you respond as if I did?

Also, they could have been fabulous parents/grandparents, and I still would not find their creepy photo amusing. And no, that does not mean I need to get a sense of humor. I have one already. The fact that it doesn't' mirror yours does not negate that.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #93)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:47 PM

101. Why did I respond by copy/pasting your words and deleting "n't"? To quote your same words

back at you with that one minor difference.

You:
What if the "very people who raised them" didn't do such a great job? Oh, right, I guess that never happens.


Me:
What if the "very people who raised them" did a great job? Oh, right, I guess that never happens.

And you then say "fail" and "pointless".

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #101)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:07 PM

126. Why? 1.Because you deluded yourself into thinking you were being clever, and 2. You can't seem to

grasp the inanity making the very same point of which the person you are addressing is obviously already aware.

The author of the article was accepting it as a given that the grandparents were good with children since they'd already raised a child. I made the point that that assumption is not necessarily so. In other words, I asserted that there are two possibilities.

So you coming back and asserting the existence of one of the two possibilities I'd just acknowledged was pointless. Really not that complicated.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #44)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:49 PM

149. I chuckled.

A friend of my did something similar when she babysat for my 2 year old. I laughed then, too.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #44)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:52 AM

161. Yep

 

out of context and among a different crowd most jokes are terribly unfunny.

Context and audience both matter.

Ask any comedian. Well, any *successful* comedian.

/and there does seem to be a contingent on here for whom "THAT'S NOT FUNNY!" is a life motto, rather than a cliched expression of faux-outrage.

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Response to chloes1 (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:06 PM

75. Yeah, if only liberals had a sense of humor Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert might have their own

hilarious, award-winning tv shows.

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Response to chloes1 (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:55 PM

92. Your concern is noted. Please feel free to share more of your concerns, and enjoy your stay. nt

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:00 PM

29. Not funny. Too many tragedies.

 

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:01 PM

30. Exactly what lesson were they teaching the dad?

That they are both friggin idiots and not to be trusted with a child?
Because that is the "lesson" I got out of it.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #30)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:26 PM

83. Right. That "teaching him a lesson" bit made it even worse. We don't know if the grandparents said

that or if it was just a headline the publisher stuck on it, but it's creepy. "I'll teach you not to be concerned about the welfare of your child?" That's a sentence I can only imagine said in the same voice that said, "I'll get you my pretty!!!"

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:02 PM

31. I am not amused.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:04 PM

32. THIS proves "the baby was in good hands"?! These G-Parents are SICKOS.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:08 PM

35. This is terrifying to me and NOT funny at all. OMG.

This can't even be called morbid humour. This is just tasteless.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:14 PM

40. Granma and Granpa must have gotten into the cooking sherry




Either that or they didn't have a whole lot going for them to begin with.

I tend to lean toward the latter.


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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:16 PM

43. Hey Grandma and Grandpa- how about we stick you on an ice flow? Just for fun.

Photo shoot!

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:19 PM

46. this really goes much deeper. these adults were making a point to the new parents. they do not

respect them and the parental decisions and they are letting the parents know. i would not expect them to respect any of the decisions i make as a parent, from here on out. and i would not trust them, from here on out, to honor the choices i make for my kids.

that is a really sad thing for a family adult to lose with another.

i would have the kids around the grandparents as much as before, i would just make sure i was there, while the kids young enough not to be able to stand up for self, speak up for self, or kids do what they know the parent wants.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #46)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:06 PM

125. Thank you

I couldn't figure out why I found this so disturbing, but you make perfect sense.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:22 PM

47. People who say "But the oven wasn't (...even) ON!" are missing the point.

I'd be like, Mom, Dad, don't put my kid in a fucking oven. Not as a "joke".

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:22 PM

48. I wouldn't even do that to a turkey.

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Response to undeterred (Reply #48)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:53 PM

56. Hear Hear! Back when I was married, our traditional Thanksgiving dish was......

moussaka.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:36 PM

50. I hate babies... and this is not funny.

Not even a little.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:38 PM

51. That's really demented.

Not child abuse, but just sick.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:40 PM

52. Sorry,,,, This is not funny.

This is hugely disrespectful to their son as a new parent.

I think the son was correct to be nervous about leaving the baby with this set of "grandparents".

One has to wonder what their next "joke" will be.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:43 PM

53. I think maybe you need a bigger pan for babies. Looks a bit cramped to catch all the drippings.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #53)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:33 PM

69. Yes, I am outraged. Improper pan size!

ROFL

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:43 PM

54. I see no humor in this

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:45 PM

55. You can tell they wern't serious

there's no seasoning on that baby.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #55)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:26 PM

59. he looks chilled

do ya think they kicked the oven on to keep him warm?


some people on this thread don't have a funny bone
that's sad

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Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Reply #59)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:48 PM

70. I know, right?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #55)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:48 PM

65. +1

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:58 PM

57. Harmless fun? That is sick. Just sick. Who did it? Romney?

Seriously, this "prank" is the product of a twisted mind. Wouldn't surprise
me in the slightest if Romney saw it and would think it was funny.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:27 PM

60. NOT funny in the least.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:31 PM

62. I find this funny too and am most certainly NOT outraged.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #62)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:52 PM

91. It's funny to me because I know neither set of grandparents would actually mistreat my child.

If I had doubts, it wouldn't be amusing.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:32 PM

63. Horrible!

How can anyone think this is funny?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:34 PM

64. Hilarious private family joke and a harmless one at that.

Pearl clutching on DU, even more hilarious.

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Response to The Midway Rebel (Reply #64)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:42 PM

121. yep

pretty funny.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:50 PM

66. Goddamn, man, this wasn't funny at all.

Shame on CafeMom for trying to make light outta this tasteless (even if not intentionally malicious) joke. This kind of thing gives me daymares.......

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:52 PM

67. creeps me out n/t

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:59 PM

68. Sorry, that's hilarious. Outraged? Dang, get a sense of humor

I could see my grandparents doing that as a gag.

I think if you got yer panties in a twist about this... you need some serious help.

It's akin to the good ole' "Let's take a photo of the sleepin' baby with his hand on a beer" gag.

Why? Because, why not. It's funny. Lighten up, sheesh.

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Response to Spock_is_Skeptical (Reply #68)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:15 PM

73. Have you had a baby? Dad was nervous about it. Bad joke, not funny.

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Response to Spock_is_Skeptical (Reply #68)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:15 PM

78. Just because someone doesn't share *your* sense of humor does not mean they don't have a sense

of humor. Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert crack me up. I have a sense of humor. This borderline sick mocking of a nervous parent does not appeal to it.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #78)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:19 PM

97. Knicker twists are valid evidence of lack of sense of humor.

It's one thing to think something isn't funny, but quite another to be outraged that someone might think something truly harmless is funny.

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Response to JVS (Reply #97)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:50 PM

123. Arrogant, pompous bullshit.

And as for myself, I expressed nothing regarding anyone else's reaction.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #123)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:46 PM

136. Opinions are like assholes. You've made yours clear.

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Response to JVS (Reply #136)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:21 PM

137. Please proceed, douchebag.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #137)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:05 PM

144. Bless your heart.

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Response to JVS (Reply #97)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:47 PM

131. There's lots of different kinds of humor. Some people like macabre humor, some dont. Some like

slapstick, some dont. The types of humor that appeal to humans at various ages changes.

It's pretty arrogant to appoint yourself the arbiter of sense of humor.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #131)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:44 PM

135. And it is also arrogant and reminiscent of Bill Frist to diagnose mental disorder...

based on producing a photograph like that in the OP.

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Response to JVS (Reply #135)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:34 PM

139. Please point to the post in which stevenleser or I diagnosed anyone.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #139)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:04 PM

143. Oh, I didn't realize we were in the talking about each other personally phase of the discussion.

If the shoe doesn't fit, it's not yours.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #131)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:22 PM

138. +a million!

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Response to JVS (Reply #97)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:52 AM

179. Or merely a different standard of humor.

"Knicker twists are valid evidence of lack of sense of humor...."

Or merely a different standard of humor.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:50 PM

71. I think it's funny too

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:14 PM

72. Shame on the grandparents. I wouldn't trust them with my baby again.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:17 PM

74. This is one of those things where it depends on who did it an the relationship

they have with each other.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #74)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:29 PM

85. Exactly. The reactions here seem based on our personal experiences.

which is interesting to me.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:11 PM

76. Not 'outraged' by this, but it's just dumb. nt

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:18 PM

79. I'm delighted by this.

I'm delighted we get to argue and be upset by things like this -- instead of some GOP presidential-win nightmare.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:20 PM

80. An interesting factoid: the oven used to be a kind of primitive incubator, keeping babies warm

in the cold months.

Anyway, carry on. Just had to interject that.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:23 PM

82. Scary

yuck!

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:40 PM

86. I can see my folks doing that.

We'd have been laughing about it for years.

But we're kind of weird about humor. We were talking about the election today and I brought up whether he was better off today than four years ago. He started laughing really hard, and said that made his day. The thing is - four years ago, he was in a coma: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7864072

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:50 PM

90. Well, I think it's funny.

I mean the child is not traumatized, there is no intentional malice, nobody was hurt. If this was my family, this would be a Christmas card photo.

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #90)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:15 PM

95. I agree, funny........

No problem with it, baby is fine can't see what the big deal is?

Xmas card ya, maybe

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #90)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:52 PM

102. Hedwig and the Angry Inch


That's what I thought at first. Maybe these were his early years...



And with the right bizarre family, it's kinda funny. I'd never do that to a grandbaby myself, mind you. ***Note to self- Edit out sick punchline here***

Yes, I have worked with abused kids, yes it's horrible.

Yes, moral outrage has been reached over yet another vital issue....






WE shall forever be defined on DU as one of two sorts of people: a person who thinks the baby in the pan is funny, and one who most surely does not












Oh yeah: Old Italian family saying:

Il sangue si rosta ma no si manga
































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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:28 AM

103. Wow.Lighten up people. There's an Italian restaurant out here whose motto is"We put a little Italian

in everything we make". That's been their motto for decades, and their newspaper ads have always included some version or variation of this photo:
http://www.papadiosokc.com/

When our older child was a baby we took a similar photo (I'm not sure if we were aware of the Papa Dio's ad photo at the time or not): baby sitting in a big stockpot, me (or my hubby - my memory sucks these days) standing next to the pot, wearing a chef's hat and apron and pretending to shake a big salt shaker into the pot. We thought it was a funny photo then and still do.

Did so very few of you grow up in a family where there was (and still is) lots of teasing and joking around?? Geez Louise. I think the story of what the grandparents did is a hoot, and I know my sibs, parents, nieces, now-deceased uncles, etc would think the same.

FWIW, in my previous career I had plenty of contact with abused and neglected children. I have no problem with this JOKE photo.

This thread reminds of the people who were all in an uproar about the wonderful children's book "Good Dog, Carl", saying that it advocated child neglect. (see Amazon for synopsis of the book, and this great review by a children's librarian chiding the can't-separate-reality-from-fantasy(or humor) crowd: http://www.amazon.com/review/R1AMKPBR1LC4XZ )

I feel like I've fallen through the looking glass when I read this thread.
Wow.

"That's a joke, son!" - cue Foghorn Leghorn

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:43 AM

104. Hey guys, do not, I repeat do NOT read Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" - it'll make

you positively apoplectic. Swift should have been lynched for that piece, the fucking asshole.

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Response to kath (Reply #104)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:28 PM

129. Swift was, through satire, addressing the evils of society. It was not meant to be laugh out loud

funny. The "joke" was aimed at those in who participated in making the lives of others miserable, not at a nervous parent.

Also, no actual, individual child was identified as the one headed for an oven. For me, that's a big difference. So, although this photo doesn't amuse me, I can appreciate "A Modest Proposal."

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Response to kath (Reply #104)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:07 PM

145. I TAUGHT "AMP" for decades, and this photo isn't remotely similar in intent.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:45 AM

106. NOT

good grief

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:00 AM

107. The baby's head is pushed up against a hard pan...

No blanket or anything to cushion it. The child looks uncomfortable and stressed.
Shit like this gets stupid people in alot of trouble. Wouldn't pass this around if you
know these people.

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Response to EmeraldCityGrl (Reply #107)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:47 AM

113. Yeah the baby doesn't look comfy or amused. I'll side with the baby. WTF ASSHOLES !!!

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Response to EmeraldCityGrl (Reply #107)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:57 PM

141. Actually, if you look at the photo closely, you can see a blanket or towel behind the baby. So they

did line the pan with something to cushion it.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:04 AM

109. These grandparents would give most parents a heart attack....

Not funny because it's too scary . . .

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Response to fadedrose (Reply #109)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:33 AM

171. Do you think parents would see it and think the grandparents

were actually planning on cooking the baby? I can't imagine it would be taken in any way but as gentle teasing about "what's the worst that's going to happen if you leave him with us?"

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:05 AM

110. not funny at all

 

absolutely sickening. Those grandparents are monsters.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:30 AM

112. I think I'll trash this, never did before, because the picture makes me ill.....

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:49 AM

114. It seems to have been the parent who put the photo on the web, as 'funny'

See http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/12src9/ .

So do all the DUers reaching for their blue pencils condemn the father as well as the grandfather?

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #114)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:07 PM

115. Thank you for that link that it was the parent who thought it funny and posted it.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #114)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:00 PM

151. Yes! Thanks for the link...

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:05 PM

117. Gross. I wouldn't allow a baby to come into contact with my cookware.

 

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #117)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:23 PM

189. THANK YOU

^^^^^^^ This guy gets it

That baby is a germ matrix and doesn't belong in the same place where I prepare my food

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:10 PM

118. Sometimes you can joke about stuff like this in words.

However, when you make pictures of it, it crosses the line into disturbing. I think the grandparents kinda showed that they don't know where to stop sometimes, no matter how well intentioned, and could point to why the son was nervous about leaving them alone with the baby to begin with. By trying to so something to inspire confidence in their reliability, they succeeded in doing the opposite.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:14 PM

119. They Should have put a big fat fucking Apple in his mouth.

Then it would have been funny. So close.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:56 PM

124. Bwaahaha! I find this hilarious.

I also find this thread hilarious, unless I missed the part where the grandparents actually turned the oven on and then ate the baby. But I'm pretty sure that's not what happened.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:12 PM

127. I'm at that age where

Our parents are dropping like flies. MA, has had to put her mom in a care facility. While she was helping clear out the house for renters she found a letter she had left 30 years ago for them.
She and her husband were going camping and leaving the baby for the first time with her mom and dad. She said her all inclusive, a to z, litany left little doubt that she figured her own mother, had zero knowledge of baby raising.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:15 PM

128. Is it too soon to post a double coated baby with corn flakes recipe?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:22 PM

133. That picture is hilarious and

so are all the responses in this thread.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #133)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:24 PM

134. It's a double win.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #133)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:25 PM

146. after reading through the thread, I have to agree.

it was the kid's dad who posted this and thought it was funny.

It wasn't a belly laugh funny to me when I saw it, just a bit amusing is all.
but it sure wasn't vein popping sparks of child abuse accusations and keeping the kid away from his grandparents forever.

good grief.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:51 PM

140. Wow, you'd think the oven was on and they left him in there.

 

Instead of being something absolutely harmless that lasted probably ten seconds. The outrage here is beyond ridiculous.

Get a grip people.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:58 PM

142. What if they’d posed beside the baby

with big kitchen knives in their hands, pretending they were going to stab him? Or how about if they’d put a noose around his neck and pretended they were going to hang him? Or rigged up a makeshift guillotine and put the baby under the blade?

Putting the baby in the oven isn’t funny except to people who’d find those other scenarios funny too.

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Response to frogmarch (Reply #142)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:25 PM

147. Isn't playing "what if" fun? Doesn't add much but it does exercise imaginations.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #147)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:52 PM

150. big difference between those and

putting a baby in an oven.

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Response to frogmarch (Reply #142)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:05 PM

152. Each of your scenarios could end up with an accident.

It is highly unlikely that they would mistakenly turn on the gas, then mistakenly close the oven door, then mistakenly forget that they left the baby in the oven.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #152)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:24 AM

153. I understand that. My point is that each

of the scenarios, including the oven scenario, depicts a threat of intentional physical harm to the baby, whether or not the threat is real or just a sick joke.





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Response to frogmarch (Reply #153)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:04 AM

154. No. Your scenarios pose a risk. A mistake could result in harm or death.

Placing a baby in a cold clean oven presents no risk and a chance for an accident is nil.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #154)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:12 AM

156. I said I understand that. I also

said it depicts a threat, whether or not the threat was real or just a sick joke.

I don't believe the baby was actually in physical danger when his grandparents put him in the oven. That isn't the point. The point is that they thought it would be funny to put the baby in the oven as if they were going to roast him. Real-life atrocities are committed against children all the time. Anyone who would even pretend to roast a baby has to be sick in the head.

People have a right to think that putting the baby into the oven was a funny thing to do, but if the child were mine, he wouldn't be seeing these grandparents of his for a very long time.

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Response to frogmarch (Reply #156)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:23 PM

190. And "Home Alone" was just a movie. It is not that difficult to separate fact from fiction...

The grandparents presented a fictional scenario with no harm done. Children are depicted in sketchy situations all the time. In the Carl books, a baby's "adult" supervision is a dog. While the books are delightful, I think we can all agree that leaving a baby alone with a dog is not a good idea. In fact, it would be neither fun or funny.

I am glad the son found it amusing enough to post on the internet.

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Response to frogmarch (Reply #142)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:44 AM

157. I knew a couple that for Halloween had their kid stand inside a recently carved pumpkin

 

(he was kind of small at the time) and wear a pumpkin hat.

What if instead of a pumpkin it had been a lions mouth. And what if instead of a hat it had been a fresh bloody steak?

NOT SO FUNNY OR CUTE IS IT!?!?!??!

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Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #157)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:47 AM

176. No. A bloody streak

instead of a hat wouldn't have been funny at all.

When my eldest granddaughter was born, a hospital orderly injected her with lidocaine. His intention was to take her to the brink of death and then revive her so that he could be thought of as a hero.

Some of the newborns he injected were damaged for life. Fortunately, none of them died. My granddaughter was larger than these other newborns and turned blue for only a day. Maybe it would be funny to some people if I were to pose for a picture holding a shot needle over my granddaughter's baby daughter, as if I were going to inject her. I am sure my granddaughter, her husband and other members of my family would be highly amused. Right.

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Response to frogmarch (Reply #176)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:48 AM

178. What an entirely comparable scenario!

 

In no way is that different from what the OP is about.

/if their kid had almost died in an oven then they sent the dad this pic that would be more comparable.

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Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #178)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:18 PM

182. The OP is about

grandparents pretending to prepare to harm their grand-baby. My posing with a syringe over my great-granddaughter would be me pretending to be getting ready to harm her. Even if my granddaughter hadn't been injected with lidocaine as a newborn, such a picture wouldn't be funny, just as the oven picture isn't funny.

I'm through with this thread. Those who find the oven picture funny probably always will.

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Response to frogmarch (Reply #182)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:22 PM

183. "Those who find the oven picture funny probably always will. "

 

Those who find outrage around every corner probably always will.

They weren't preparing to harm their grandbaby.

Comedy often revolves around statements/acts that if taken literally would be horrifying.

If your standard for what is funny is something you'd only laugh at if it were actually carried through then you must not enjoy a lot of comedy.

/the three stooges, in real life, would be mutually abusive sociopaths and likely all crippled or dead at this point. There is nothing funny about abuse or physical disabilities. Anyone who laughed at those three is sick. Just sick.

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Response to frogmarch (Reply #176)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:14 PM

187. that's really horrible. Glad your granddaughter survived. Orderly is in prison?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:06 AM

164. I just hope the little guy understands humor

better than he understands ovens

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #164)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:01 PM

186. The baby is a girl.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:25 AM

166. Reminds me of the Mitt Romney school of humor. n/t

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Reply #166)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:30 AM

170. The dog on the roof?

I wonder why people weren't falling over themselves laughing about that around here.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #170)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:14 PM

181. If he'd put the dog on the roof for a photoshot, then took it out and let it ride in the car, then i

it would be similar.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:28 AM

167. Not even close to funny

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:39 AM

173. halloween costume (posting for outrage)



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Response to noamnety (Reply #173)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:12 PM

180. That's not safe at all. Someone might pick up their electric knife without noticing!!!!

OMG OM GOMGOM GOM GOM GOMGOMGOGMOMGOGOGMGMOGOGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What WERE They THInkiING!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111

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Response to noamnety (Reply #173)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:23 PM

184. Post a warning next time

 

I saw that and didn't have any pearls handy.

WHAT THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO CLUTCH NOW!?!?!

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