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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:41 PM

Miami-Dade/Little Havana precinct map: An end to the Right Wing Cuban American chokehold

Take that hardliners! Se acabo el juego


http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/06/3085128/interactive-miami-dade-precinct.html


Precinct 547 = 51.4% Obama, 47.8% Romney

Precinct 563 = 60.9% Obama, 39% Romney

Precinct 564 = 61.7% Obama, 37.7% Romney

Precinct 566 = 61.9% Obama, 37.7% Romney

Precinct 565 = 58.3% Obama, 41% Romney

Precinct 570 = 53.4% Obama, 46.2% Romney

not technically Calle Ocho / Little Havana

Precinct 572 = 44.4% Obama, 54.6% Romney

Precinct 574 = 47.4% Obama, 52.1% Romney

Precinct 575 = 46% Obama, 53.7% Romney

Precinct 670 = 46% Obama, 53.7% Romney

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Reply Miami-Dade/Little Havana precinct map: An end to the Right Wing Cuban American chokehold (Original post)
flamingdem Nov 2012 OP
Paladin Nov 2012 #1
flamingdem Nov 2012 #3
Daniel537 Nov 2012 #9
flamingdem Nov 2012 #14
Daniel537 Nov 2012 #18
flamingdem Nov 2012 #24
craigmatic Nov 2012 #4
craigmatic Nov 2012 #2
flamingdem Nov 2012 #6
Daniel537 Nov 2012 #5
flamingdem Nov 2012 #7
Daniel537 Nov 2012 #8
flamingdem Nov 2012 #11
Awsi Dooger Nov 2012 #12
flamingdem Nov 2012 #16
Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #10
calimary Nov 2012 #19
flamingdem Nov 2012 #22
superpatriotman Nov 2012 #13
flamingdem Nov 2012 #20
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #15
flamingdem Nov 2012 #17
Daniel537 Nov 2012 #21
flamingdem Nov 2012 #23

Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:44 PM

1. We Need To Re-Establish Relations With Cuba.


Immediately.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:47 PM

3. My thoughts exactly, this should be a wake up call

but there is a problem with the right wingers in Congress, they'll block most bills put forward. The anti-embargo advocates don't have much strength by comparison.

There's a new congressman from Miami-Dade who is a Democrat, first Cuban American Democrat from Florida, and he advocates more reasonable travel rules at least. However, Ted Cruz was elected in Texas and he is a wingnut! It's just logical to end the Embargo though since we need the business that is otherwise quickly going to Brazil, China etc.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:16 PM

9. Yeah, unfortunately we gotta wait for the Dems to take back congress

to have a shot at lifting some more of the restrictions against Cuba. The President has pretty much down as much as he could in terms of Executive Orders, since the embargo and the ban on tourism to Cuba have been codified into federal law.

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:35 PM

14. Obama can take it further by allowing Americans to go under the General

License. I read a defense of this idea somewhere and can post it if I find it again. Essentially it's for non-tourist travel but you can go without a group and stay in Casa Particulares rather than hotels. Ironically, the people to people trips are limited to hotels and time is controlled by itinerary so it's difficult to really be out there meeting average Cubans. The funny thing is that organizations and travel agencies running those tours are making a lot of money, so again less motivation to push for change.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:39 PM

18. Hopefully now that he doesn't have to worry about re-election

he can take a close look at the law and see what's the most he can do to expand ties with Cuba. Hell, he's visiting Myanmar next week, how about a little hop to Havana?

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:49 PM

24. The Alan Gross, Cuban 5 issue is in the way

supposedly. Cuba is right on this in my opinion. A few days ago Gross' wife stated he was working for the US government, the US has to take responsibility for attempting to destabilize the country and let go of the "spies" that were caught only because Cuba wanted to give a heads up to the USA about extremists plans.

The USA continues in its arrogance on that issue, but Cuba will probably cut some kind of deal.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:48 PM

4. Yes we should. I wonder how much independent action Obama can take on it.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:45 PM

2. Looks like letting they travel freely to Cuba is working. I hope he relaxes things more.

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Response to craigmatic (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:48 PM

6. It might be up to Obama to do something

Congress is still majority right wing Cuban American influenced on these matters, but there is an economic incentive in opening trade with Cuba.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:48 PM

5. The numbers in Kendall and West Kendall were stunning to me.

Obama won most precincts, some by as many as 20%-25%. Even in Hialeah, which is about 75% Cuban-American, he picked off a bunch of precincts and narrowed Romney's margins substantially compared to McCains. The GOP is in deep doo-doo down here in Florida.

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:03 PM

7. I think it's about being tired of the embargo and ready for change

as well as demographics. The younger Cuban Americans know that it's time for change and that the usual representatives make their community look extremist and ridiculous. The Cubans from the island are Democrats, they recognize garbage rhetoric and racism and want to be able to see their families. They are less invested in the game of making money off the embargo than older generations.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:07 PM

8. Absolutely.

Let me tell you, every Cuban i know down here, save for one of my cousin's, voted for Obama. They don't just agree with him on lifting the travel restrictions to Cuba, they agree with him on economic and social issues as well. The same is true with most other Hispanics, immigration isn't the only reason why they vote Democratic, its because they know the Dems are good for them economically.

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:32 PM

11. Me too. I am friends with a ton on Facebook and was surprised by the amount of support

for Obama. In fact there were very popular graphics like this going around:



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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:35 PM

12. I own a townhouse in West Kendall

Just off Kendall Drive. A long term tenant recently moved out and I've been fixing the place up for re-rental. In talking to the neighbors prior to the election I was stunned how many were voting for Obama. There were pro-Obama bumper stickers and VOTA OBAMA written on vans. In past years I was worried about having a Democratic sticker on my car while in the Cuban areas of South Florida.

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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:38 PM

16. Isn't this great news?

It's hard to know exactly what it is but they seem to have collectively realized it now, or if it's mostly demographics. Maybe we should credit the Democrats in the area for a job well done!

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:27 PM

10. Adios, Cuban-Republican Stranglehold!

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:40 PM

19. But... but... but... marco rubio!

Those seem to be the magic words these days as far as the GOP is concerned. marco rubio is just gonna fix EVERYTHING!!!!! Well, maybe not...

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Response to calimary (Reply #19)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:43 PM

22. I'm thrilled by this news exactly for that reason

It wrecks Rubio's chances, he's already let it out of the bag that he is a right wing crazy, though watch him begin his flip flopping.. Also, his buddy Rep. David Rivera who he owns a house with in Sacramento, just lost, and has 11 ethics etc. counts against him due to dirty shenanigans, I think the gop will have to look elsewhere!

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:35 PM

13. Nice

The next step is to shut down the obligatory rw worship-fest that occurs at Versailles restaurant every time a politico needs to pander and genuflect to the Batista-istas.

We can do this by showing up.

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:41 PM

20. Well I'll miss seeing Miguel Saavedra there overdosing on cafe cubano!

NOT

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:37 PM

15. I saw a twenty something Cuban woman that worked as a democratic coordinator in South Florida

predict that Obama would be well there. She pointed out that young Cubans were leaning heavily democratic and didn't share the views of their parents and grandparents.

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:39 PM

17. I'd like to hear more about how things went for OFA

in that area, they did something right! That plus demographics.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:41 PM

21. I noticed they had an office opened up in the heart of Hialeah

Twenty years ago, the hard-liners would have probably fire-bombed the place. Things have certainly changed down here.

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:47 PM

23. Wow! That's interesting

I think even more recently that would have been pushing it - Joe Garcia lost to David Rivera last time, 2009 had the right wingers protesting Cuban musicians arriving back for the first time since the Bush era, it seems like the last few years have really changed the area.

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