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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:18 AM

If Cantor knew about the Petraeus story before the White House did, and

didn't inform the White House, isn't that a betrayal of his responsibility to act in the best interest of the nation?

Like, maybe, an act of TREASON by omission?

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Reply If Cantor knew about the Petraeus story before the White House did, and (Original post)
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 OP
itsrobert Nov 2012 #1
djean111 Nov 2012 #2
malaise Nov 2012 #17
Lint Head Nov 2012 #3
jsr Nov 2012 #15
Panasonic Nov 2012 #4
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #5
Panasonic Nov 2012 #7
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #8
onenote Nov 2012 #23
hughee99 Nov 2012 #19
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #22
hughee99 Nov 2012 #25
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #6
pinto Nov 2012 #33
ewagner Nov 2012 #9
HopeHoops Nov 2012 #10
former9thward Nov 2012 #11
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #12
RobertEarl Nov 2012 #13
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #14
RobertEarl Nov 2012 #18
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #20
RobertEarl Nov 2012 #26
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #28
RobertEarl Nov 2012 #32
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #36
former9thward Nov 2012 #21
RobertEarl Nov 2012 #24
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #27
RobertEarl Nov 2012 #29
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #31
former9thward Nov 2012 #30
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #34
RobertEarl Nov 2012 #35
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #37
former9thward Nov 2012 #38
RobertEarl Nov 2012 #40
former9thward Nov 2012 #41
Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #16
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #45
Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #52
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #53
Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #39
Tippy Nov 2012 #42
Sunlei Nov 2012 #43
Rex Nov 2012 #44
FarCenter Nov 2012 #46
Wellstone ruled Nov 2012 #47
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #48
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #49
amborin Nov 2012 #50
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #51

Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:22 AM

1. Did he work with the FBI?

The FBI seems like the appropriate agency to handle this. And if it is in the FBI hands, it's up to them to disclose or not to disclose as they see the best course of action of the investigation.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:33 AM

2. Giving Cantor's treasonous character, I would think that,

if he had a choice, he would sit on the info hoping to use it for impeachment purposes if Romney lost.
But presumably Cantor cannot tell the FBI what to do. I hope.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:37 PM

17. So if Rmoney had won it would have been covered up?n/t

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:34 AM

3. Petraeus and Cantor are right wingers. I think the whistle blower went to a right winger

because they thought it could be covered up. Petraeus has been cited by the GOP as a potential candidate for President. Cantor wants to be VP and this information would be a way to blackmail Petraeus into choosing him or else the world would know. I think Cantor was forced by circumstance to reveal the information.

This is just my speculation and opinion but stranger things have happened in our history.

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Response to Lint Head (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:34 PM

15. Very plausible

It is the simplest explanation right now.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:35 AM

4. Yup. Failure to notify the President is considered treason

 

ESPECIALLY if Cantor withheld knowledge about Petraeus story.

He needs to be expelled from Congress, and Wayne Powell wins the special election that is held the week before the new Congress gets seated.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:37 AM

5. Under what definition

is failure to notify the President "treason"?

That word gets tossed around here like crazy.

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:39 AM

7. Withholding cruicial information

 

about a head of a key cabinet position (oh, like the CIA) is definetely dangerous and could be used to topple the President.

That is treason, by definition, and Cantor is in serious trouble. I expect Ethics Committee to convene shortly to discuss two matters - one Issa and one Cantor to be expelled from the U.S. House of Representatives.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:41 AM

8. You would do well to look up the definition of treason in Constitution

Since the Constitutional definition is the only one that matters.

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:49 PM

23. +1

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:43 PM

19. This one:

"Treason" - when someone does something I don't like that involves our government or a foreign country.

Similar to another word that gets tossed around like crazy.

"Nazi" - a person that I don't like.

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Response to hughee99 (Reply #19)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:49 PM

22. Interestingly, I was accused of treason downthread

Simply for calling out the misuse of the word.

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:53 PM

25. I saw that and had to laugh. n/t

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:38 AM

6. Cantor actually did the right thing here, it appears to me

The FBI employee originally went to Representative Dave Reichert of Washington (also of Green River Killer task force fame). Reichert, rather oddly, passed him (or her) on to Eric Cantor.

Cantor referred the matter back to the FBI.

It seems clear that both the FBI employee and Reichert were looking to make election hay out of this issue. Cantor refused to do so, and went through the proper channels. Now, Cantor's motivation for doing so are unclear. I suspect that he was just as shocked as anybody, and because he's a Virginia guy, he's probably been around Petraeus a lot. Indeed, he's probably personal friends with Petraeus.

So, the FBI employee meets with him with this information, and Cantor doesn't like it at all. He essentially turned the FBI employee into the FBI Director. But this was the right thing to do, since the FBI employee was in essence interfering with an ongoing investigation in order to make an impact on the election.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:04 PM

33. Tend to agree on the whole. I think the FBI employee, as well as Reichert, were possibly looking for

pre-election investigation hay. Reichart may have felt his responsibility was to pass the info on to his leader in the House. The employee, though, should have gone up the ladder within his own department and let the FBI Director make the follow up call.

Worth noting as an aside that internecine politics exist in the FBI and the CIA for that matter. Maybe less so than in other departments, but neither are devoid of partisan political advocates.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:45 AM

9. My take on it...

Cantor was caught between a rock and a hard place...

Should he?

1. Jump in an destroy the Republican Party's "Great White Hope" for 2016?

or

2. Destroy the iconic general and try to pin the Obama Administration with a scandal?

Decisions, decisions, decisions....

He punted.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:03 PM

10. His "service" in the House has been a string of acts of treason.

 

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:14 PM

11. Yet another poster who loves to throw around the work "treason".

Without knowing the legal definition. By that tortured logic then Petraeus committed treason since he knew the story immediately before anyone else and did not inform anyone. And Obama committed treason since after he knew the story he praised Petraeus to the sky.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:15 PM

12. Thank you

Treason has a very specific definition, and this isn't even close.

And yes, I'm constantly amazed at how often "treason" gets thrown around here at DU.

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:32 PM

13. You have to admit

That given the state of affairs pretty much all of them are Treasonous Bastards being that they are destroying our country and giving aid and comfort to our enemies.

And you do tend to amaze me, SO1P, you are seemingly everywhere preaching aid and comfort for our enemies.

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