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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:03 PM Nov 2012

What does the nature of "threatening emails" have to be to get the FBI invovled?

Broadwell sent some harassing emails to another woman, identity currently unknown, and this triggered the FBI investigation that uncovered the affair and brought Betray-us down.

What is the level of harassment or threat in an email have to be to trigger an FBI investigation? Did Broadwell send emails from Betray-us' account?

It still doesn't quite pass my smell test.

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What does the nature of "threatening emails" have to be to get the FBI invovled? (Original Post) morningfog Nov 2012 OP
Yeah, alot more to this story sandyshoes17 Nov 2012 #1
I lean toward some sort of "7 Days in May" plot, with the sexual affair the cover story for coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #12
thanks sandyshoes17 Nov 2012 #20
Yes, she was using his email account, apparently. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #2
I've read she accessed his personal gmail account from his laptop. morningfog Nov 2012 #3
I imagine if a woman is receiving anonymous threats from TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #6
Yes ... GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #15
DCIA: any level of wtf from his email account. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #7
The FBI investigation uncovered the link to Betrayus, not the other way around. morningfog Nov 2012 #9
I would think that the email threats right from the start mentioned TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #10
Fair point. morningfog Nov 2012 #11
yes, i read that same thing: she used his gmail to write the emails amborin Nov 2012 #26
This is a strange story. lalalu Nov 2012 #4
Several thoughts: HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #5
A quick google search confirmed a federal law prohibiting morningfog Nov 2012 #8
Tnx. Now we know why FBI involved. nt HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #13
I would guess it has more to do with ... GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #14
article said she used Petraeus's email account to write them eom amborin Nov 2012 #16
What article said that? morningfog Nov 2012 #18
one i read yesterday; no time to search for the link; but that is what is said amborin Nov 2012 #21
I'm not saying your wrong, but I haven't sen that anywhere else. morningfog Nov 2012 #23
I don't think that is accurate. morningfog Nov 2012 #24
i may have mis-read it; or it was inaccurate amborin Nov 2012 #25
It may have a lot to do with who recieved them jberryhill Nov 2012 #17
I'll echo what others have said - who was the other woman? If she's important that may be the key nt riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #19
I'm sure it was a minor disagreement regarding virtue epistemology vs. contextualism jsr Nov 2012 #22
I think the existence of the emails whatever their content implied Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #27

sandyshoes17

(657 posts)
1. Yeah, alot more to this story
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:09 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:47 PM - Edit history (1)

I also heard someone say he came forward because it would have come out in the upcoming hearings on Benghazi. Why?

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
12. I lean toward some sort of "7 Days in May" plot, with the sexual affair the cover story for
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:37 PM
Nov 2012

things a lot more nefarious.

I'd like to think McRaven found out about the plot and outed it to the White House who then intervened to pressure BeTray-Us to leave, much like the generalissimo in 7 Days in May. Seems to me a couple other high-ranking officers have also resigned suddenly in recent days under clouds also.

Grammar Nazi alert: "Would have come out" (not "would of come out&quot - pet peeve of mine

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
2. Yes, she was using his email account, apparently.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:10 PM
Nov 2012

They thought his account was hacked, from what I understand.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
3. I've read she accessed his personal gmail account from his laptop.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:11 PM
Nov 2012

But, I still am unclear on what types of threats trigger an FBI investigation.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
6. I imagine if a woman is receiving anonymous threats from
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:15 PM
Nov 2012

the personal email of the CIA director, that might be something worth looking into by the FBI.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
7. DCIA: any level of wtf from his email account.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:15 PM
Nov 2012

Is it not clear that the director of the CIA's email account, even his personal email account, being used for anything peculiar is an instant FBI investigation?

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
10. I would think that the email threats right from the start mentioned
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:29 PM
Nov 2012

or referred to Petraeus, even if it wasn't clear that it involved his personal account. If you were a jealous nut, I am guessing you wouldn't send your rival a completely ambiguous threat, apropos to nothing--how would she get the point? You'd say, "Get away from David P or (insert threat here)." Just a guess, they aren't releasing the content of the emails.

 

lalalu

(1,663 posts)
4. This is a strange story.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:14 PM
Nov 2012

But in these types of triangles people can get weird. I do have the feeling this Broadwell is a control freak and has some issues. Then again I don't understand the whole thing of messing with someone's husband. There are plenty of men out there and she had a husband at home.

Also, to be in such close proximity to the wife and know what you are doing is cruel. So i wouldn't be surprised if she was heavy handed with the threats at another woman she suspected of being close to Patreus.

Patreus was just plain stupid. Whether there is more to this or not he was careless and should resign.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
5. Several thoughts:
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:14 PM
Nov 2012

I think making a threat via email probably involves FBI bc it crosses state lines. Had the threat been face to face, probably only local LEO.
Possibly FBI was called in bc they have better resources to track email.
Possibly tje recipiant of the threats was higher-level govt employee, possibly in intelligence.I read that it wasn't Petraeus's wife (who also is govt employee).
I don't know if any of these are accurate, just putting forth the possibilities.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
8. A quick google search confirmed a federal law prohibiting
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:17 PM
Nov 2012

threats to kidnap or injure sent via email across state lines. Punishable with a fine or up to 5 years.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
18. What article said that?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:51 PM
Nov 2012

I have read that she communicated with Betrayus via his email and that she accessed his personal account on a laptop of his. I don't remember reading any of the threatening emails came from his account.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
24. I don't think that is accurate.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:28 PM
Nov 2012

If you read it, they possibly misreported it.

"The FBI soon discovered that the emails were coming from Broadwell, which in turn led to the discovery that Broadwell was sending explicit emails to Petraeus, according to the officials.

At first, investigators were concerned that a stranger had somehow hacked into Petraeus’ email account, but then learned that his emailing her was consensual and indicative of an affair, they said."

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/10/15075751-us-officials-complaint-about-broadwell-sparked-fbi-investigation-that-indicated-petraeus-affair?lite

They followed the threats to Broadwell's account. When looking at Broadwell's saw Petraeus had communicated with her.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
25. i may have mis-read it; or it was inaccurate
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:46 PM
Nov 2012

i think i read it on gawker, which linked to a new york post article, 'cloak and shag her'

also appears fbi informant first notified cantor

can we call for cantor's impeachment on grounds of endangering national security?

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
27. I think the existence of the emails whatever their content implied
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:54 PM
Nov 2012

was enough to trigger an FBI investigation on the grounds of
national security.

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