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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:03 AM

What does the nature of "threatening emails" have to be to get the FBI invovled?

Broadwell sent some harassing emails to another woman, identity currently unknown, and this triggered the FBI investigation that uncovered the affair and brought Betray-us down.

What is the level of harassment or threat in an email have to be to trigger an FBI investigation? Did Broadwell send emails from Betray-us' account?

It still doesn't quite pass my smell test.

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Reply What does the nature of "threatening emails" have to be to get the FBI invovled? (Original post)
morningfog Nov 2012 OP
sandyshoes17 Nov 2012 #1
coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #12
sandyshoes17 Nov 2012 #20
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #2
morningfog Nov 2012 #3
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #6
GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #15
Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #7
morningfog Nov 2012 #9
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #10
morningfog Nov 2012 #11
amborin Nov 2012 #26
lalalu Nov 2012 #4
HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #5
morningfog Nov 2012 #8
HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #13
GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #14
amborin Nov 2012 #16
morningfog Nov 2012 #18
amborin Nov 2012 #21
morningfog Nov 2012 #23
morningfog Nov 2012 #24
amborin Nov 2012 #25
jberryhill Nov 2012 #17
riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #19
jsr Nov 2012 #22
Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #27

Response to morningfog (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:09 AM

1. Yeah, alot more to this story

Last edited Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:47 AM - Edit history (1)

I also heard someone say he came forward because it would have come out in the upcoming hearings on Benghazi. Why?

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Response to sandyshoes17 (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:37 AM

12. I lean toward some sort of "7 Days in May" plot, with the sexual affair the cover story for

 

things a lot more nefarious.

I'd like to think McRaven found out about the plot and outed it to the White House who then intervened to pressure BeTray-Us to leave, much like the generalissimo in 7 Days in May. Seems to me a couple other high-ranking officers have also resigned suddenly in recent days under clouds also.

Grammar Nazi alert: "Would have come out" (not "would of come out") - pet peeve of mine

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:57 AM

20. thanks

nt

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Response to morningfog (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:10 AM

2. Yes, she was using his email account, apparently.

They thought his account was hacked, from what I understand.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:11 AM

3. I've read she accessed his personal gmail account from his laptop.

But, I still am unclear on what types of threats trigger an FBI investigation.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:15 AM

6. I imagine if a woman is receiving anonymous threats from

the personal email of the CIA director, that might be something worth looking into by the FBI.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:47 AM

15. Yes ...

but that's not what happened.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:15 AM

7. DCIA: any level of wtf from his email account.

Is it not clear that the director of the CIA's email account, even his personal email account, being used for anything peculiar is an instant FBI investigation?

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:18 AM

9. The FBI investigation uncovered the link to Betrayus, not the other way around.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:29 AM

10. I would think that the email threats right from the start mentioned

or referred to Petraeus, even if it wasn't clear that it involved his personal account. If you were a jealous nut, I am guessing you wouldn't send your rival a completely ambiguous threat, apropos to nothing--how would she get the point? You'd say, "Get away from David P or (insert threat here)." Just a guess, they aren't releasing the content of the emails.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:31 AM

11. Fair point.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:49 PM

26. yes, i read that same thing: she used his gmail to write the emails

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Response to morningfog (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:14 AM

4. This is a strange story.

 

But in these types of triangles people can get weird. I do have the feeling this Broadwell is a control freak and has some issues. Then again I don't understand the whole thing of messing with someone's husband. There are plenty of men out there and she had a husband at home.

Also, to be in such close proximity to the wife and know what you are doing is cruel. So i wouldn't be surprised if she was heavy handed with the threats at another woman she suspected of being close to Patreus.

Patreus was just plain stupid. Whether there is more to this or not he was careless and should resign.

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Response to morningfog (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:14 AM

5. Several thoughts:

I think making a threat via email probably involves FBI bc it crosses state lines. Had the threat been face to face, probably only local LEO.
Possibly FBI was called in bc they have better resources to track email.
Possibly tje recipiant of the threats was higher-level govt employee, possibly in intelligence.I read that it wasn't Petraeus's wife (who also is govt employee).
I don't know if any of these are accurate, just putting forth the possibilities.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:17 AM

8. A quick google search confirmed a federal law prohibiting

threats to kidnap or injure sent via email across state lines. Punishable with a fine or up to 5 years.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:41 AM

13. Tnx. Now we know why FBI involved. nt

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Response to morningfog (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:45 AM

14. I would guess it has more to do with ...

WHO is 'another woman'.

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Response to morningfog (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:49 AM

16. article said she used Petraeus's email account to write them eom

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Response to amborin (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:51 AM

18. What article said that?

I have read that she communicated with Betrayus via his email and that she accessed his personal account on a laptop of his. I don't remember reading any of the threatening emails came from his account.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:12 PM

21. one i read yesterday; no time to search for the link; but that is what is said

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Response to amborin (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:26 PM

23. I'm not saying your wrong, but I haven't sen that anywhere else.

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Response to amborin (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:28 PM

24. I don't think that is accurate.

If you read it, they possibly misreported it.

"The FBI soon discovered that the emails were coming from Broadwell, which in turn led to the discovery that Broadwell was sending explicit emails to Petraeus, according to the officials.

At first, investigators were concerned that a stranger had somehow hacked into Petraeusí email account, but then learned that his emailing her was consensual and indicative of an affair, they said."

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/10/15075751-us-officials-complaint-about-broadwell-sparked-fbi-investigation-that-indicated-petraeus-affair?lite

They followed the threats to Broadwell's account. When looking at Broadwell's saw Petraeus had communicated with her.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:46 PM

25. i may have mis-read it; or it was inaccurate

i think i read it on gawker, which linked to a new york post article, 'cloak and shag her'

also appears fbi informant first notified cantor

can we call for cantor's impeachment on grounds of endangering national security?

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Response to morningfog (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:50 AM

17. It may have a lot to do with who recieved them

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Response to morningfog (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:52 AM

19. I'll echo what others have said - who was the other woman? If she's important that may be the key nt

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Response to morningfog (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:24 PM

22. I'm sure it was a minor disagreement regarding virtue epistemology vs. contextualism

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Response to morningfog (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:54 PM

27. I think the existence of the emails whatever their content implied

was enough to trigger an FBI investigation on the grounds of
national security.

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