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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:37 AM

Did you have any doubts that the President would win on Tuesday?

As a devotee of mathematics, I had none.

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Nope. Nada one.
33 (39%)
Some, But I was pretty sure he would pull it off.
38 (45%)
A lot. Somewhat cautiously optimistic, though.
13 (15%)
Many. Winning was a long shot at best.
0 (0%)
He was toast. I was sure of it.
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Reply Did you have any doubts that the President would win on Tuesday? (Original post)
onehandle Nov 2012 OP
sellitman Nov 2012 #1
rurallib Nov 2012 #6
ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2012 #7
irisblue Nov 2012 #21
newfie11 Nov 2012 #22
Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #28
Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #41
VMA131Marine Nov 2012 #2
GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #37
Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #42
etherealtruth Nov 2012 #3
clyrc Nov 2012 #4
IrishEyes Nov 2012 #5
Island Blue Nov 2012 #8
kooljerk666 Nov 2012 #9
Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #30
kooljerk666 Nov 2012 #38
Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #45
naviman Nov 2012 #10
young but wise Nov 2012 #11
Heather MC Nov 2012 #12
FarPoint Nov 2012 #13
DiverDave Nov 2012 #14
Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #15
lpbk2713 Nov 2012 #16
Whisp Nov 2012 #17
Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #18
mick063 Nov 2012 #19
morningfog Nov 2012 #20
Mayberry Machiavelli Nov 2012 #23
sellitman Nov 2012 #26
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #24
Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #25
ewagner Nov 2012 #27
hlthe2b Nov 2012 #29
liberalmuse Nov 2012 #31
Progressive dog Nov 2012 #32
roody Nov 2012 #33
quinnox Nov 2012 #34
SmileyRose Nov 2012 #35
rrneck Nov 2012 #36
Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #39
The Second Stone Nov 2012 #40
PowerToThePeople Nov 2012 #43
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #44
Aerows Nov 2012 #46
RFKHumphreyObama Nov 2012 #47
Puglover Nov 2012 #48
Live and Learn Nov 2012 #49

Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:40 AM

1. I thought the machines were totally fixed

In an honest election I knew he would win.

I didn't think it would be honest.

Maybe it wasn't but there was a limit to what they could fix and he over came those numbers?

Anyway...I am thrilled.

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Response to sellitman (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:46 AM

6. the machines were my big concern also

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Response to sellitman (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:46 AM

7. I feared fraud as well.

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:18 AM

21. I was sure the Ohio and Florida machines were rigged.

Sad, very sad that. I was sure Ohio SOS Husted & the Florida elections people would supress many many voters and the Ohio computers would steal/change/disable votes.

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Response to sellitman (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:19 AM

22. Agreed

Also I live in a very red state and almost everyone was for rmoney. It was a very scary time.

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Response to sellitman (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:52 AM

28. Cheating was my concern too

But I knew if he just got more than enough votes (1-2 million) and he kept some lawyers in the ground in swing states, cheating wouldn't matter and it didn't

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Response to Blue4Texas (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:12 PM

41. Me too, pretty much what you said.

And I'm exceedingly grateful to every person, activist, blogger,
reporter, anyone and everyone who has stayed on top of
the vote stealing & disenfranchisement, such that it wasn't
able to happen as the dark forces intended.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:42 AM

2. In Silver We Trust!

Nate Silver that is!

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Response to VMA131Marine (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:59 AM

37. And, the Obama campaign.

People were worried about the voter fraud. But, our side had hundreds of lawyers lined up in each of those states. They weren't going to go down without a huge fight, like the Kerry campaign did in 2004. Plus, there were all those long lines that told me that there would be too many Dems voting to let the rethugs steal it. Between that and Nate Silver's predictions, I really wasn't worried. Although, I will admit I did have a bit of anxiety. That came from all of the hand-wringers here who bought into the MSM "horse race" bullshit. As long as I kept hitting "Trash This Thread" and otherwise ignored them, I was fine. I am just glad this week is over. It didn't help that I had other stresses, too.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #37)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:14 PM

42. probably the best political campaign ever

because of all the great hard workers who made it
possible, and the man who inspired us with hope.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:44 AM

3. I wouldn't call it doubt ...

I would call it extreme fear ... I had complete faith in Pres Obama ... I did not have that level of faith in my "fellow" Americans.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:45 AM

4. I just moved back to the US this summer

And the first state I visited was Oklahoma, where my family lives. Oklahomans are not know for liking Obama, in general. Then I moved to Florida, where you couldn't turn on the tv or radio without hearing a Romney ad. So, I was worried. I am not Obama's biggest fan, but the thought of a Romney presidency made me literally break out in hives. Honestly, it happened on election night while I was waiting for the returns to come in, and the hives went away as the night progressed.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:46 AM

5. Honestly, there was never a doubt in my mind

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:50 AM

8. I voted for some,

mainly because I was really worried about voter suppression in several key states.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:51 AM

9. I won a $20 wager..........

 

with a RMoney backer. The bet went in 1 week b4 the election & I tried to up it to $500 but despite being SURE Rmoney was gonna win he was afraid to put his money where his hope was.

I offered to bet everyone GOP in my neighborhood & had no takers & now the GOPers look at me, try not to make eye contact, then run away.

The best part of the after glow for me has been explaining to conturds how Fox news was lying to make them feel good & KKKarl Rove was either smarter than all his backers & ripped them off or KKKarl was as dumb as them, it is not yet determined which way KKarl lies.

At any rate I always try to focus on FACTS & just the word "FACTS" makes them whimper & run.

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Response to kooljerk666 (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:54 AM

30. I won a $100 wager with my sister

Shut up all my GOP family who were puzzled by my confidence. I knew they weren't looking at Nate, just Fox lol

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Response to Blue4Texas (Reply #30)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:02 PM

38. rock on! good for you!!!

 

When i catch the neighbors raking leaves or something outside where they can't run away, I am gonna offer to explain to them how they were duped & why the GOP as a white conservative party is finished.

Maybe I will pay for a few copies of Frums new e-book "why rmoney lost" for them. At any rate I will be sympathetic to their lack of brains & speak slowly & honestly.

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Response to kooljerk666 (Reply #38)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:34 PM

45. lol that is generous of you

sympathetic, speak slowly and honestly

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:52 AM

10. A little

But I had doubts in 2008 as well though and that was a blow-out in the popular vote too.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:52 AM

11. Nope.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:57 AM

12. I was afraid repugs would steal it. however

I was interviewed on Russian Television at the Bris tow Obama rally I was asked what I would do if Romney won, I paused laughed and said he is not going to win!
So I had some faith in American voters.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:08 AM

13. My anxiety came from knowing about all the voter

disenfranchisement activity. I was tense actually....

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:03 AM

14. nope, not any.

it was in the bag.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:06 AM

15. It wasn't the math...it was the software

I was in Ohio in 2004 when I was SURE that Kerry had won. I was afraid of a repeat.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:06 AM

16. The only doubts I had was the intensity of the dirty tricks the other side would pull.




Living and voting in Florida this is something I have become conditioned to.


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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:08 AM

17. some. I felt better when I stopped listening to MSNBC

 

after the first debate.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:08 AM

18. In a perfect world, no.

But the concerns about voter suppression were real.

As were the concerns about election fraud--especially after the patches that were installed on the voting machines in Ohio.

I simply can't take anything for granted anymore. If there is room for the republicans to steal it, they will.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:11 AM

19. The only concern was a coup via election fraud

 

As soon as I heard that thousands of lawyers were dispatched throughout Ohio, I knew we were safe.


The media marginalized OWS. I knew the movement warranted much more attention.

This gave me a clue that they would also marginalize the political impact of women and minorities in the general election.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:13 AM

20. Not once. I wasn't worried during the repuke primaries.

I wasn't worried after the conventions. I wasn't worried after the first debate. I wasn't worried election night.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:21 AM

23. Amazing. Most normal people (as poll shows) would have a LITTLE doubt or fear.

Even with the data strongly on your side, on a matter this important.

Amazing that most of the other side literally had zero doubt despite the data overwhelmingly being against them.

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Response to Mayberry Machiavelli (Reply #23)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:49 AM

26. Most normal people?

Nice.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:21 AM

24. All data pointed to a victory

What floored me was the landslide. I did not expect that.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:48 AM

25. It was really weird this time.

Never had a doubt. I was WAY more worried in 2008.

The only possible wavering sign for me was not knowing how big the bubble was. Sitting in amazement watching Bullshit Mountain spew their crap, just kept thinking it was hilarious (like the Benghazi debate moment, the 'unskewed polls' and all of the other non-reality).

Fortunately, the bubble was small enough and Fox had been completely diminished as a result. Even David Frum is calling them 'entertainment not news' now.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:49 AM

27. Had a hard, hard time...

to keep believing in the MATH over the bombardment of Republican spin being picked up and repeated by the MSM

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:53 AM

29. I was confident, but still fearful of election manipulation and...

the grotesque impact of voter suppression... I thought that electronic vote manipulation could only go so far, but remain convinced that cost Kerry Ohio in 2004, so I was unwilling to discount the possibility. And, though I thought we would prevail, I feared a close result might occur from their various shenanigans that would give the RW cover for denying a decisive Obama win.

I must say that I am nearly as pleased at the object failure of RW billions$$ as I am that we prevailed. That said, I do believe their ugly $$-driven attack ads did cost us some House seats. Citizens United MUST be reversed.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:54 AM

31. I knew he would win if they weren't able to tamper with the votes...

...or disenfranchise enough Democratic voters. So I was really nervous about that aspect. Kind of a bad flashback to 2000 & 2004.

Tinfoil Hat Moment: I had this feeling they were set to steal it in Ohio, but nixed it after Pennsylvania and Iowa went for Obama. It would be too risky. I loved that Rove was caught off guard and wasn't able to do his spin like he did with Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004. It was great hearing about his meltdown.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:56 AM

32. I was afraid of the voter suppression efforts nt

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:58 AM

33. I knew he would get more votes,

but I thought the repugs might steal it.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:58 AM

34. yes, I was prepared for a Romney win, but also optimistic too

 

When I saw how the last polls seemed to start breaking to advantage Obama, I then knew Romney was going to have to get lucky to win. Not that he couldn't win, but that the odds were stacked against him.

However, before that happened, I was more pessimistic, and really thought we might have to say hello to a President Romney. Especially after that first debate catastrophe. Obama almost blew the election there. Luckily, there was enough time left to repair the damage and he did so.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:58 AM

35. Whistleass vs Kerry messed me up

Now I just assume it's rigged.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:58 AM

36. I expected it to be closer. nt

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:03 PM

39. I voted "A lot," more because I was so worried about how horrible it would be if he lost than

from doubt that he would.

And yes, I'm one of those CTs, who thinks there's plenty of evidence suggesting that '04 and '08 were stolen, so, why not this time.

I burst into tears immediately when it was called. Tears of joy and relief.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:04 PM

40. I'm a lawyer and was at a deposition on election day

they were all sure (including my good friend client) that Romney would win. I offered any or all of them a $100 bet at 2 to 1 odds that Obama would win. There were no takers.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:15 PM

43. A lot.

I was sure that the Rove machine would be able to flip the votes. The MSM was totally there to back it up for him.

I do not think the POTUS and his team would have gone quietly, ie Kerry campaign.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:29 PM

44. No. And all the nervous Nellie's that were posting were starting to piss me off. nt

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:48 PM

46. Nope

They didn't have the electoral numbers, and frankly, Romney was a horrible candidate.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:49 PM

47. My worry was that it looked close enough to steal

And with all the voter disenfranchisement and voting machines, I was not confident that it would not be stolen

And yet from somewhere, I felt cautiously optimistic that President Obama had the edge. I didn't have that sinking feeling that all was lost. And yet I was trying to talk myself down because I remembered the exultant feelings I had on the day of the 2004 election and also at the time of the Wisconsin recall and how brutally shattered I was when the results came through. So I was preparing for the worst and hoping for the best

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:52 PM

48. I haven't seen the member (long time) around that thought and said

it would be an electoral landslide for Romney. Had O losing NY and MA. Fancy that.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:01 PM

49. Not a doubt, legitimately. Course, I also knew Gore would win legitimately.

And he did.

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