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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:31 AM

OUTRAGE Builds As Arizona Continues To COUNT VOTES




Some serious media attention and pressure needs to be applied here.




Nearly a third of votes cast in Arizona remained uncounted the day after the election. Most of them were probably cast by Latinos, organized and newly registered by multiple civil rights groups in the state to combat candidates like the notorious Maricopa County Sheriff, Joe Arpaio.



On Thursday, the Secretary of State, Ken Bennett, announced the figures: 631,274 early and provisional ballots remained uncounted out of a total of 1.8 million votes. At least 350,000 of them are from Maricopa County (Phoenix metropolitan area), where Joe Arpaio has already claimed victory. Activist Randy Parraz, president of Citizens for a Better Arizona, told the Huffington Post, “We’re not conceding anything until every vote is counted. They’re just going to act like, ‘Oh, the election’s over, Arpaio wins.’ Hell no.”



Three Congressional races also remain in limbo. Although Democrat Rich Carmona originally conceded the Senate seat to Jeff Flake on election night, he changed his mind after hearing the unprecedented number of uncounted votes. On Friday, he sent this message to supporters: “We will take every necessary step to make sure all of our supporters’ ballots are counted.” Two U.S. House races are also too close to call until the remainder of the votes are tallied. Protestors from a coalition of rights groups are maintaining a continuous presence outside of the Maricopa County Tabulation and Election Center. In a letter to the county recorder, Helen Purcell, the American Civil Liberties wrote that the “public confidence in the voting process” was at risk.



The situation has attracted attention all across the nation. Saturday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid weighed in, issuing a statement of his concern: “All of the votes in Arizona must be counted promptly, accurately and equally. The uncounted votes in Maricopa County alone represent a major portion of the total votes cast in Arizona on Tuesday.” He also pointed out that this problem occurs just as the Supreme Court is ready to consider whether the voter protections in 1965′s Voter Rights Act should be scaled back. Specifically, the justices are being asked to rule that the part that prevents states from disenfranchising minorities is no longer relevant.






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Segami Nov 2012 OP
brer cat Nov 2012 #1
Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #6
mzteris Nov 2012 #10
Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #62
Posteritatis Nov 2012 #38
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rurallib Nov 2012 #3
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Segami Nov 2012 #9
StarryNite Nov 2012 #22
jmowreader Nov 2012 #52
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ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #54
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mojowork_n Nov 2012 #29
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thesquanderer Nov 2012 #20
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rhett o rick Nov 2012 #21
Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #27
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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:43 AM

1. Is someone independent watching as these votes are being counted?

Arpaio and others have supporters willing to dump those provisional ballots if they are largely Latino.

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Response to brer cat (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:03 AM

6. WHERE are the UN Observers? nt

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Response to Tigress DEM (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:42 AM

10. What triggers their appearance?

Do they have to be asked, petitioned? Who makes that decision and hth could we make that happen?

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Response to mzteris (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:32 PM

62. Supposedly they ARE here to observe the elections, but if states can block them...WOW. no help then.

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Response to Tigress DEM (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:36 PM

38. They were denied entry by the state. (nt)

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Response to Posteritatis (Reply #38)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:31 PM

59. Makes sense. nt

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:44 AM

2. wow i can believe they think voter disenfranchisement

is no longer relevant after all the crap 17
stated tried pull. I will the the voters rights act needs to be expanded to include all states not just southern ones

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:45 AM

3. what is happening there is a trvesty. Maddow gave it exposure last week.

let's hope others jump in to shine the light on Az.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:52 AM

4. Business as usual in Arizona

As a Republican activist in Arizona in the '60s, Rehnquist would spend Election Day picking out, and picking off if possible, black voters by challenging their credentials.

Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/local/opinion/article/Bringing-back-the-good-old-days-of-voter-1288935.php#ixzz2BvSzIqaC

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Response to randr (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:35 PM

37. Thanks for the reminder about Rehnquist.

If there is a hell, he is rotting in it. I can't believe the Supreme Court will entertain the notion that minority voter protections are no longer needed when the former CHIEF JUSTICE participated in voter suppression of minorities. Sickening.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:02 AM

5. Way to go Arizona..... nt

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:10 AM

7. They are good at suppression

Counting on the other hand is ARITHMETIC!

We know that they don't have those skills.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:18 AM

8. One of the best results of 2012 elections would be the defeat of Joe Arpaio.

He is another example of obstructist, not in the business of governing. He is dirty.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:20 AM

9. Beyond dirty! If he's defeated, one should expect Arpaio investigations to get the green light.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:57 AM

22. Arpaio is a pompous ass!

He has been getting away with all kinds of stuff. He calls himself the toughest sheriff in America yet his dept failed to investigate over 400 sex crimes.

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Response to StarryNite (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:43 PM

52. Is "toughest sheriff" RW code for "most corrupt"?

The last Toughest Sheriff in America, Gerald Hege of Davidson County, NC, finished his reign of terror under house arrest. Arpaio is headed the same direction, except he makes Hege look like a Boy Scout.

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Response to StarryNite (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:33 PM

70. I totally agree with you, he had to investigate Obama's BC

To he'll with the victims of sex crimes.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:16 PM

54. +1 nt

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:46 AM

11. What is the policy in unconceding a race?

I'm hoping that if this thing is so blatantly obvious, no one will question him.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:50 AM

12. A concession is just a courtesy, legally it means nothing

It is the certification of the election that legally determines the winner and these races have not been certified yet.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:50 AM

13. Greeeeaaat!

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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:17 PM

55. +1 nt

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:10 AM

14. TRMS ran a story either Thursday or Friday showing the protesters

Arizonians who appeared to have cast absentee or provisional ballots that were outstanding. TRMS reported it takes up to 45 minutes to count each ballot and they may just give up and through the ballots out.

This is crazy and shows utter incompetence from the Arizona elections officials.

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Response to ffr (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:35 AM

16. Correction: This shows a deliberate attempt to suppress the legal vote in Arizona.

This is no mere incompetence or mistake. This is part of a deliberate and calculated effort to make sure that the non-republicans and minorities - primarily Latinos - will not have their fair say. This is business as usual for "Maricopa Madness," wrought by the tea party and their sycophants.

This is a blatant attempt to control or divert the legal will of the citizens of Arizona so that the Arizona Teabillies and their Tea Party don't have to face wrath of the sane citizens of Arizona.

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Response to Raster (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:18 PM

56. +1000 nt

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:34 AM

15. The Arizona GOP is so smug they think the people are going to shrug this off and forget

They are so wrong. I hope barber,carmona and the guy challenging arpaio kick their butts.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:19 PM

57. Paul Penzone.. Good man...

Worked on his campaign....

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:36 AM

17. K&R

This is outrageous.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:42 AM

18. What's their excuse for the delay?

Or are they just sticking with "Fuck you people...we'll do what we want".

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Response to WinstonSmith4740 (Reply #18)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:40 AM

94. there excuse

is they have 10 day to complete the count, I called the county recorder last week about this as my wife and I voted with a early ballot and they were not counted as well . I raised hell with the guy and said how can you declair Flake and Apairo as winners I said when over 600000 votes havent been counted I said that there two votes they didn't get. He said there within the law and they will follow it. I said you republican are A** holes and hung up

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Response to azmesa207 (Reply #94)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:55 PM

97. Good for you!

If they heard more of this, maybe they'd wise up a little.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:48 AM

19. This isn't deliberate disenfranchisement - it's incompetence

The exact same thing happened in the last 3 elections here. Close races weren't decided for days as they counted the large number of provisional and absentee ballots. ALL of the respective elections (and a couple propositions I think) were decided for the Dems - it just took a long time to get the vote counted.
In 2008 I was covering a recall election in a Phoenix suburb - there were less than 10000 votes cast for it. It was close, about 100 vote difference - and it took 10 days to get the results.

I don't know why they take so damn long, maybe something to do with the voter ID laws - I don't remember if we had this problem in 04 or 02 before the laws went into affect.

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Response to sweetloukillbot (Reply #19)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:21 PM

29. It would be incompetence if uncounted votes were distributed equally among...

...Republican-leaning districts, white suburban areas, and minority-heavy voting areas.

That doesn't appear to be the pattern, not if the numbers reported from Maricopa County are accurate.

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Response to mojowork_n (Reply #29)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:03 PM

45. Where are you seeing that it is from Democratic areas?

Maricopa is primarily Republican and I haven't seen anything saying it is specific precincts. When I voted there were more people in the provisional line, and I live in a more upper class part of town.

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Response to sweetloukillbot (Reply #45)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:45 PM

89. Here's the link. Lots of reasons for close scrutiny.

http://www.alternet.org/did-arizona-sheriff-joe-arpaio-really-win

"...perhaps as many as 300,000 ballots remain uncounted in Maricopa County, with what they say are a sizeable proportion coming from non-white voters who unexpectedly were given provisional ballots after their names were not on polling place voter lists.... ...There are reasons for Latino organizers to distrust Maricopa County election officials. Before the election, the county sent out notices to voters with the Spanish language version not having the correct day of the election—it said Wednesday while the English language version said Tuesday. County officials said that was an error and subsequently sent out additional correct notices.

On Tuesday, Maricopa County was one of 51 jurisdictions in 23 states where the federal Justice Department sent election monitors.

On Wednesday, state and Maricopa County election officials reached by AlterNet said there were many reasons why the county had so many uncounted ballots, which did not only include provisional ballots but also mail-in ballots that were dropped off at polling places on Tuesday and overseas ballots...."

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:52 AM

20. Wouldn't it be a kick if Obama ended up winning AZ too? (n/t)

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #20)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:37 PM

71. I would love to see him take Arizona.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:55 AM

21. Fixing the broken election process should be our number 1 priority. nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:19 PM

27. Not sure about number one, but it is way up near the top of the list. Jobs it number one, I think.

But yeah, studies show that the majority of Americans support progressive policies, and if the will of the people is unclear due to the failure of the electoral system, then the right can continue to claim that progressive policies are not what "the American People" want.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #27)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:55 PM

41. The way I see it is that if we make strides with jobs, infrastructure, economy,

it may all be lost quickly if we dont have a free and fair election system.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #41)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:48 PM

49. True. Especially if dealing with the rampant R gerrymandering a part of the reform. As a PA

resident, I was dismayed to see so damn many Rs being elected across the state. That's just cheating.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #49)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:37 PM

64. No it's the process and the Democrats have been getting their asses clocked

in these redistricting because they care more about the top of the ticket and do not reach down to the level needed to have control of the process.

This was how Newt came to power. He started working on taking control of the process in 1989 and by 1992, they had control in enough cities to take complete control in enough states to wrest control the Congress from the Democrats

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:00 PM

23. Arizona is the new Florida

Just substitute Cactus for Palm Trees.

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Response to sellitman (Reply #23)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:05 PM

24. Sounds worse to me...

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Response to geckosfeet (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:23 PM

31. It is worse. THE INCOMPETENCE IS DELIBERATE.

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Response to Raster (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:40 PM

65. Well, it was deliberate in Florida, too.

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Response to October (Reply #65)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:24 PM

81. Which does NOT excuse either in the least. Anytime ANYONE is denied the right to vote, or

...or is conspired against to cast their legal and lawful ballot or chicanery is used to miscount or misreport said ballot, WE ALL LOSE. The concept of democracy becomes cheap and meaningless with no intrinsic value.

Please have FOUGHT AND DIED for over 200 years for this democracy of the people to exist. And the PRIME CORNERSTONE OF THIS DEMOCRACY IS THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

And anyone -- ANYONE -- who would impede the legitimate electoral process is, in my opinion, an electoral traitor, and deserves the highest, stiffest penalty available.

This has been a calculated effort in Arizona, Florida and Ohio to disenfranchise voters because they would not vote the directions the rethuglicans wanted them to do, and EVEN MORE FOUL AND DISGUSTING: minorities and people of color were SPECIFICALLY TARGETED BECAUSE OF THEIR ETHNICITY, THEIR SKIN COLOR.

This is EPIC LY WRONG on so, so many levels.

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Response to sellitman (Reply #23)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:29 PM

48. Much worse.

FL finished counting. AZ is nowhere close to finishing.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:17 PM

25. Democrat Rich Carmona changed his mind? YAY!!

He should have been patient and waited with conceding until ALL the votes were counted. This is, after all, ARYANzona, home of the racists, xemophobes, white-power supremacists, and SB1070. NO DEMOCRAT, let alone Latino Democratic candidates should utter the word concede until ALL votes have been counted fairly.

I'm happy to read that he's changed his mind regarding concession. Rightwing Flake should not get away with stealing his seat in Congress, just as his co-horts all across the country have tried.

Federal elections should be taken back under Federal oversight, not state. Congress can do this if they want to. Let's hope they do or we'll have this shit going on each and every election!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:18 PM

26. Did Flake declare victory, did Carmona accept this yet? nt

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:21 PM

28. HUGE K & R !!!




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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:21 PM

30. Time for the UN to go in and run Arizona's elections in the future! n/t

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:24 PM

32. Huffington Post isn't even reporting this story

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:30 PM

33. Where is the DOJ on this?

WTF Holter!

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #33)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:54 PM

39. DOJ was here. Don't know if they still are, but I'm sure

the WH is watching.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #33)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:24 PM

69. His name is Eric Holder and the other reply to your post stated..

"DOJ was here. Don't know if they still are, but I'm sure

the WH is watching."

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:31 PM

34. This bunch has been stealing elections for...

decades! I hope the entire blue state country comes down on this bunch hard.
They used to be famous for stealing land, what does that tell you.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:32 PM

35. These posts are nonsense.

The counting is continuing and has never stopped. Both Democrats and Republicans have observers there. In addition ANYONE in the world can watch because all the vote counting stations are streamed live 24/7 by video on the internet. That is FAR more than most states in the country do. In fact, despite what some are saying about all provisional ballots being Dem, Arpaio has INCREASED his lead over election night as the remaining ballots are counted. Stop with the made up drama.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #35)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:55 PM

40. You are entitled to your say....

but let me add this last quote from the article:


While Secretary of State Bennett tried to attribute the record-setting proportion of uncounted ballots to redistricting, the civil rights groups smell voter suppression. After all, Maricopa County gave out incorrect voting information to Latinos before the election, Jeff Flake’s senatorial campaign spread misinformation about polling places in robocalls and, in 2008, the ACLU called Pima County (Tucson metropolitan area) tops in the country for voter suppression because officials threw out 18% of the provisional ballots cast.

So hold up on the congratulations for Arpaio, Flake, and a number of other office seekers in the state. Arizona’s got a problem. Perhaps the new Congress would like to take up election reform in order to find a solution.




The practice of voter suppression by these districts is quite clear. You can make whatever argument you want in their defense, their past history of voting suppression and tactics has been noted and ANY and ALL signs of such suppression should be investigated.



On the face, I wouldn't blink for a nano-second and trust these lying weasels to adhere to Arizona's election laws. They are who they are and TRUST is a privilege earned to which they have not done whatsoever.

JMHO!!

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Response to Segami (Reply #40)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:18 PM

43. I agree. Arizona is now the poster child for voter suppression, and I suspect also now in the...

... running for dirty electoral tricks poster child. The reich-wing teabilly crowd -- chiefly responsible for Maricopa Madness -- will do just about anything to stay in power.

And as to the "transparency": great, now we can watch the "incompetence" in real-time on the Internet.

And franky, so Arapio has supposedly increased his lead -- that in itself may be cause for concern. It is widely believed that ballots from Latinos are the majority of early voting ballots and the provisional ballots taking so long to count. It goes without saying -- but will do so anyway -- Arapio is considered NO FRIEND to the Arizona Latino community.

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Response to Segami (Reply #40)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:31 PM

61. 50 hand-printed voter registration cards had the incorrect date

2 million had the correct date.
The county recorder fixed the problem and sent updated information to those who were given the wrong date.
7 Democrats were called by Flake. They were situations where Republicans hadn't updated their phone numbers in a database. Flake provided information that proved this.
That's not widespread.

And Tucson and Pima county are both heavily Democratic - including city government in Tucson where officials were destroying all those ballots - the complaints I'm seeing down there are from Republicans.

I think Carmona has a pretty good chance to pull this out - I'm sure Barber and Sinema will. Penzone, I'll be very surprised - Arpaio is too popular in the suburbs.

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Response to sweetloukillbot (Reply #61)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:40 PM

83. Actually that is NOT the entire story:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/10/23/1076441/more-hispanic-voters-in-arizona-given-wrong-date-for-election-day-by-maricopa-county-officials/?mobile=nc

More Hispanic Voters In Arizona Given Wrong Date For Election Day By Maricopa County Officials

For the second time in as many weeks, election officials in Maricopa County, Arizona are in hot water for providing Hispanic voters with false information about when election day is.

Last week, ThinkProgress reported on how Maricopa County Elections Department officials attached a document to voter registration forms that gave the wrong date for anyone reading it in Spanish. The English version of the same document provides the correct date — November 6 — next to “8 de Noviembre.”

At the time, county officials dismissed the error as a clerical mistake, saying that only 50 people received the incorrect document. But a local ABC News affiliate has uncovered at least one more incident of the wrong date being disseminated in Spanish by Maricopa’s Elections Department.

Paper bookmarks found in three separate election counters throughout the county again give November 8th as election day, and again the mistake is reserved to just the Spanish version of the document. Activists who were perhaps willing to overlook the first incident as a genuine mistake are no longer keeping quiet:

<snip, more>

And BELOW they ESTIMATE the number to be 50:

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/Maricopa-County-Elections-Department-admits-error-on-date-of-general-election-on-voter-ID-cards

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The Elections Department spokesperson estimates fewer than 50 people received a document showing the incorrect date.

Walker believes the mistake could have serious consequences.

"It could have a significant impact on the election outcome because they'd go to the polls on November 8th and they wouldn't be open," said Walker. "They wouldn't be able to cast their vote this year."

In a press release, the Elections Department claims to be basing the number of 50 on what they've distributed over the counter in previous years.

Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/Maricopa-County-Elections-Department-admits-error-on-date-of-general-election-on-voter-ID-cards#ixzz2BxqRX9Nt
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Just another HONEST MISTAKE in the most rabidly anti-Latino county in Arizona, possibly in the United States.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #35)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:31 PM

60. Link for the live stream please.

Scanned Maricopa election site for it without success.

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Response to sweetloukillbot (Reply #63)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:19 PM

68. Thanks but that link is static, so I still don't know what chain of

links to click on to get to the live stream. Would you post the chain please?

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #68)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:38 PM

72. This is one camera from Maricopa County.

There are many cameras and all the counties have them. http://recorder.maricopa.gov/elections/Live_Feeds/btcgallery.aspx

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Response to former9thward (Reply #72)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:11 PM

78. Thanks for link! Nearly impossible to catch fraudulent counting behavior from those cameras.

They're positioned too far back from the counting areas. The temporary elections worker in Oregon would never have been caught committing vote fraud with this setup.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #78)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:17 PM

79. In building observers from Dem and Rep parties are three feet away from workeers doing the count.

If you can't see voter fraud from 3 feet then you should be doing something else.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:34 PM

36. This is getting a lot of attention in the Latino community....

Republicans used to try to trick Latinos into voting for them.

Now they act like those kinds of votes are "dirty" and they don't even want them.

Same goes for the black vote, the female vote, even the liberal white guy vote.

As far as they're concerned, they only want white Christian male and even THEY need to all pass a purity of thinking test before their vote is accepted. I guess you can spot those ballots by their Holy Light.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:07 PM

42. Is it just too crazy to consider asking Mexico.....

if maybe they would like to have Arizona?

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Response to jhrobbins (Reply #42)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:20 PM

44. Just the central Maricopa corridor. The Northern and Southern corridors of Arizona, seem to...

...be cut from different cloth.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:12 PM

46. The right wing SCOTUS are salivating at this

Oh no, there is no voter fraud. Oh no, there is no need to distrust partisan state officials, after all 30 of the 52 state governors are Reub, so no problem there. God, I really hope one of the 5 leaves the SCOTUS so Obama has a chance of turning this highly partisan and corporatist branch of government away from the dark side.

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Response to lark (Reply #46)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:18 PM

84. No, there IS almost no VOTER FRAUD.....this is ELECTION FRAUD.....big difference!

They're very different terms. Voter fraud is what the ReTHUGS were claiming when they set out to suppress the vote. It's virtually nonexistent. What is prevalent on the part of the ReTHUGS is ELECTION FRAUD, which includes vote tampering, screwing with voting software & hardware, voter suppression, etc etc. THAT is RAMPANT in the RETHUG party!

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Response to tpsbmam (Reply #84)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:40 PM

85. Takes vigilance to educate our own.

Keep up the good work!

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Response to tpsbmam (Reply #84)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:32 PM

88. You are absolutely correct. The actual instances of voters committing voter fraud...

...are almost non-existent. That red herring is just the rethuglican convenient excuse for their....

....wait for it....

....RAMPANT ELECTORAL FRAUD, including voter suppression, voter caging, deliberately passing false voting information to legal and lawful voters, illegally removing law voters from voter rolls, and all that is even before any voters ever make it to their legitimate polling place.

And then there is: false or erroneous polling location information (sorry, just an incompetent oversight), lack of sufficient number of machines (Ohio and Florida are champs at this), deliberately created extensive infrastructure pitfalls designed to annoy voters into leaving without casting their ballots. Add to that mix the right-wing poll watchers and guardians whose entire purpose is to intimidate and frighten voters, especially voters of color and minorities. Also add extensive, over-wrought ballots designed to confuse and obfuscate. Florida is the reigning champ in this category.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:28 PM

47. Arizona has been a hot bed

of voter suppression for years. Remember the John Bircher's home base was here at one time,along with Southern Utah. One only has to follow the stench of the Mormon Cult in and around the Phoenix area and look at proven results that have occurred with their help and doing.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #47)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:26 PM

51. It's where Rehnquist intimidated black voters, if I recall correctly.

 

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Response to Anthony McCarthy (Reply #51)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:51 PM

53. You recall correctly. For reference:

http://www.salon.com/2004/10/29/injustice/

Supreme Injustice

Note the date of the Salon article: Friday, Oct 29, 2004 11:30 AM PDT


The conservatives who now rule the Republican Party trace their political and ideological roots back 40 years to the Goldwater campaign, which they recall as a doomed but noble and prophetic crusade. As the radical right’s chosen heir seeks his second presidential term, events also remind us of their legacy’s most ugly aspect: the Republican Party’s continuing determination to intimidate and disenfranchise voters, especially African-Americans and Latinos.

The living symbol of that tradition is William Rehnquist, whose serious illness underlines the judicial stakes of this election. The chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court once made his mark as a young Republican lawyer in Arizona by challenging black and Hispanic voters. Today that urge to suppress democratic participation is represented by Nathan Sproul, another Arizona Republican whose name has become synonymous this year with schemes to frustrate voter registration.

<snip, more>

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:15 PM

50. I cannot believe that this is not being reported on as much as Fla was.

This should be on every news show on cable.

Yes - Rachel mentioned it, NYT did a piece on it, as did Huffington - but -

what I really think is going to happen is they are going to run out of time, and that will be that.

If Arpaio and Flake win, we need to know that they really did win.

Livid here in Scottsdale!!!!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:25 PM

58. Follow Oregon, vote by mail with a paper trail and no lines.

It's simple and easy and can't be hacked.

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #58)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:43 PM

66. How do homeless people vote in that system? I know it hard for homeless people in any voting system.

Do Oregon have a work around for that?

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Response to pam4water (Reply #66)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:43 PM

73. They can pick up a form at the Post Office to register.

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #73)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:56 PM

74. And you don't even need a stamp to submit your ballot

As the election approaches, the county clerk sets up drop-off points around the city.

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Response to Lydia Leftcoast (Reply #74)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:06 PM

76. Oh that make sense.

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #73)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:05 PM

75. The system is sounding better :)

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Response to pam4water (Reply #75)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:10 PM

77. They already have absentee voting in both FL and OH.

People still want to vote in person.
And mail system is not without fraud.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #77)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:24 PM

80. I know but some states don't count the absentee voting unless the election is close. So it's

not always a good alternative.

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Response to pam4water (Reply #80)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:17 PM

87. They count absentee voting in both FL and OH.

And people still want to vote in person.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:51 PM

67. Hope they count the votes in Arizona. I'm surprised there was not more BS like this in FL & OH

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:25 PM

82. Kick!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:13 PM

86. Kick and message from Mexico about Latino haters

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Response to RedCloud (Reply #86)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:50 AM

96. Ha! took me a 2nd look at that cactus

what does the small print say/mean in english ?

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:08 PM

90. Here's an update from the Maricopa County Democratic Party Chair, Ann Wallack



Dear Supporters,
We received an update from the County Elections Department yesterday. Here are some highlights:
200 people are working from 7 AM to 10 PM daily, including Veteran's Day.

The earlier number of 114,000 provisional ballots to be processed has been updated to 122,000 provisional ballots.

So far, of the 122,000 provisionals, 8,500 have been processed.

Of those 8,500, 6,900 have proved to be valid.
1,600 are invalid.
The percentage of valid provisionals is 81%. The same as 2008.

So far, 49% of the total provisionals cast were from voters who had received early ballots.

There are 1006 conditional provisionals waiting for voters to return with ID. In 2008 there were 1911.

(I was told that in 2008 there were 99,000 provisional ballots. I haven't confirmed that myself.)

The process for verifying the early ballots that were dropped off (at least 100,000) takes time. But not as long as verifying the provisionals. So the number of ballots that are actually tabulated each day now will be lower. On a good day they could put 80 - 100,000 ballots through the machines. Friday they did 17,000 and yesterday they did 44,788.

The press release from Yvonne Reed said that 200,000 early ballots "still remain to be processed for tabulation."

As more votes are counted some of our Democratic candidates are widening their leads. And in one bright spot please note that CAWCD candidate
Heather Macre has gained enough votes to make it in to the win column. I feel confident that she will stay there as more votes are tabulated.
Please stay tuned.

In solidarity,
Ann Wallack
Chair, Maricopa County Democratic Party
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Response to Segami (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:19 PM

91. Arpaio REALLY REALLY REALLY sucks

Keep counting.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:19 AM

92. Republicans lack faith

After all of the American lives that have been lost so that people in other lands will have the right to vote, how can any veterans support the Republicans? I'd say Dems too , but I haven't heard of them doing this. The myth of democracy that I subscribe to tells me that if all of the facts are presented, I make a decision that I believe correct. My fellow citizens do as well. I be leave I'm right, but I have faith that I could be wrong and my fellow citizens participation will help truth prevail. Republicans have no faith in democracy.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:06 AM

93. arizona state supports 2 limbaugh radio stations. they will be attacking the protestors 24/7

with their local blowhards. those radio stations are a big reason they think they can get away with this shit (and do).

https://sites.google.com/site/universitiesforrushlimbaugh/

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:11 AM

95. As a former Arizonan

This is precisely why I never, ever voted early or absentee.

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