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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:59 AM

Florida voters came through, and did more than turn the State blue:

They ousted establishment candidates, including incumbent Scott Plakon in Seminole County and former legislator Bob Brooks' comeback attempt in Orange.

And in the most remarkable event in the entire state, Seminole County voters appear to have ousted House speaker-to-be Chris Dorworth from a district that was specifically drawn to keep him safe, stocked with 25 percent more Republicans than Democrats.

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Voters also rejected eight of the 11 verbose constitutional amendments the Legislature proposed making exceptions only to provide help to disabled veterans, the elderly poor and widowed spouses of first responders.

And they voted to retain the three Supreme Court justices whom legislators wanted gone simply because these justices had forced politicians to play by the rules.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/os-scott-maxwell-florida-legislature-losers-111112-20121110,0,7965954.column

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Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 OP
Scuba Nov 2012 #1
southmost Nov 2012 #2
Orlandodem Nov 2012 #3
HockeyMom Nov 2012 #5
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #8
HockeyMom Nov 2012 #18
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #21
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #19
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #22
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #29
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #30
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #33
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #38
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #55
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #57
DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #52
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #53
DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #58
geckosfeet Nov 2012 #4
CabCurious Nov 2012 #6
Awsi Dooger Nov 2012 #56
lpbk2713 Nov 2012 #7
csziggy Nov 2012 #44
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #46
lpbk2713 Nov 2012 #47
Setsuna1972 Nov 2012 #9
kydo Nov 2012 #10
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #13
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #23
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #24
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #32
O-Town Blue Nov 2012 #41
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #11
JCMach1 Nov 2012 #12
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #15
lovelyrita Nov 2012 #26
lpbk2713 Nov 2012 #35
JCMach1 Nov 2012 #36
GatorOrange Nov 2012 #25
Osiris Neits Nov 2012 #28
HockeyMom Nov 2012 #40
Scurrilous Nov 2012 #51
etherealtruth Nov 2012 #14
ffr Nov 2012 #42
ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #16
AlbertCat Nov 2012 #17
Gumboot Nov 2012 #20
BumRushDaShow Nov 2012 #27
bemildred Nov 2012 #31
Riley18 Nov 2012 #34
coeur_de_lion Nov 2012 #37
WinstonSmith4740 Nov 2012 #39
Ineeda Nov 2012 #43
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #45
Daniel537 Nov 2012 #49
Daniel537 Nov 2012 #48
Iris Nov 2012 #50
UTUSN Nov 2012 #54
Cha Nov 2012 #59
denese Nov 2012 #60
voteearlyvoteoften Nov 2012 #61

Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:00 AM

1. Good on the People of Florida. This speaks very well for them.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:04 AM

2. congrats to Florida

I'm sensing Arizona and Texas will follow within the next few election cycles

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:23 AM

3. We MUST carry that momentum into 2014 and send Rick Scott and the Republican legislature packing.

Problem is that turnout is always lower in off year elections. The FL Dem Party must start now organizing to GOTV. We can turn FL into a blue state! If that happens it is game over given its size. The FDP, unfortunately, is one of the worst state parties in the Union. I give most credit to Obama For America.

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Response to Orlandodem (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:34 AM

5. Oh, I think turnout will be there to oust Rick Scott

with a 38% approval rating??????? Mickey Mouse could beat HIM!!!!

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:48 AM

8. The Democratic ticket will be split between a real Democrat

and the candidate that will be fielded by Obama's Central Florida rainmakers who support Charlie Crist.

This is not a sure thing.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:16 AM

18. IF Crist remains an Independent and runs Third Party,

Time will tell. He is being pushed to join the Dems. Remember, Crist did campaign for Obama in Florida. A lot depends on how much the people of Florida, and Dem Party, want to get rid of the Fraud Governor. Scott has refused to comply with the ACA which the people said, loud and clear, that they want by the Amendment's defeat.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:23 AM

21. Haggis.

Just say'n.

I will be voting for the true Democrat.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:16 AM

19. Do you think Crist would run as an Independent again?

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #19)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:26 AM

22. If his lawyer buddies are smart, they will work some deal with the Florida Democrats

AND make Charlie Crist a Democrat.

It won't make our local situation better, because this will just maintain the old guards in Florida which have corrupted the networks which are supposed to protect the most vulnerable in a community. But it's what Obama, and probably DU will push for.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:33 AM

29. I'll have to think about that....

There are no more rigorous anti-smoking supporters than former smokers, no more zealous congregants than religious converts...perhaps the same would hold true for Crist if he become a Democrat.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #29)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:35 AM

30. This isn't about smoking or religion.

This is about government corruption where no one was held accountable.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #30)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:59 AM

33. I was being glib....

However, neither party ever holds anyone accountable....republicans don't believe in it and Democrats are afraid of it. Do you think Nancy Pelosi would have gone along with throwing Charlie Rangel to the dogs if she didn't know he was in a safe district? She miscalculated with Anthony Weiner, but received a reprieve last week. Meanwhile, the deplorable Alcee Hastings was just reelected in his safe Democratic district. The man is a disgrace and has been in congress since his district was created after the census of 1990. Just saying...

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #33)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:06 AM

38. I'm just looking ahead. If Democrats are happy to be as corrupt as Republicans,

it will only mean that the pendulum will continue to go back and forth.

Means little to the old guards who have political connections into both parties.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #38)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:51 PM

55. It has ever been so, I'm afraid.

Robert Caro has written a wonderful biography about Lyndon Johnson...4 volumes with a 5th in the works. The corruption in Democratic Texas politics was hair raising. Do you really think that everyone in NYC is a Democrat without a bit of grease on the wheels? Perhaps I am overly cynical, but the corruption of individual politicians is not my major concern.... I worry much more about the corruption of the process as in voter suppression and rigged elections.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #55)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:02 PM

57. The corruption of individual politicians is a big concern for me.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:22 PM

52. actually

Obama AND bill Clinton campaigned for Kendrick meek..

Meanwhile, the people in a certain "democratic" board once got on me because I wondered why they were supporting Crist, even though the old rule was "thou shalt not use DU to cmapign for non democrats." Granted, Rubio is Horrible, just as Ric Scott is horrible, and a sack of radioactive maggot infested sheep manure would do a better job than either.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #52)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:43 PM

53. It will be interesting to see what the Florida Democrats come up with.

I hope Obama remembers that we all pitched in, in our own ways.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #53)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:15 PM

58. Obama does not worry me

Hell, if Bill Clinton supported Kendrick Meek, I am sure Obama will pinch in, the key word is, the Florida Democratic party. Yes, we won the state, but there are many who frankly need to either pull their weight or get out of the way, a prime example being Alex "I concede" Sink and her husband.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:25 AM

4. big target painted on the governors house....

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Response to geckosfeet (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:38 AM

6. I don't think Republicans even want him to stay as Gov

At least that's what family in FL tell me.

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Response to CabCurious (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:01 PM

56. If they sense he's vulnerable they'll primary him out

Similar to Jim Gibbons in Nevada and Frank Murkowski in Alaska in recent years.

It's hardly a certainty we'll be running against Rick Scott, although his own cash can probably withstand a primary challenge unless it's a star candidate against him

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:39 AM

7. In your face Rubio




And tell your hero Jeb he can blow it out his ass too.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:14 AM

44. We need to get rid of Rubio AND pRick Scott!

Not aimed at you, lpbk2713, but I am amazed at the DUers who keep pushing Crist as our next governor candidate worthy of Democratic support while so many hate Rubio for his association with Jeb Bush.

Crist is as much a Jeb Bush disciple as Rubio is - why would ANY Democrat want to put Crist back in Tallahassee in a position of power? I'm going to be a broken record about this. I hated Crist as governor. Yes, Scott is worse but Crist is NOT a remedy.

We Floridians need to look for a real Democratic candidate to support and we need to find one SOON.

And since we can hope there will be a huge mid-term turnout to DUMP Scott, we need to push for throwing out as many Republican and Tea Party Representatives as possible! We can give President Obama a more responsive Congress for his last two years in office if we work hard enough!

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Response to csziggy (Reply #44)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:21 AM

46. Be prepared. We have a battle ahead of us.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #44)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:32 AM

47. Understood ... and I agree




We could certainly do better. I think the pendulum is coming back our way.


I miss Lawton Chiles BTW, gone too soon.


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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:49 AM

9. I have renewed faith in Florida !

Nothing made me happier than to see so many voters stand in those long lines for HOURS, complete their 20 page long ballots and helped our President win reelection Keep that same mojo for 2014, that way Rick Scott can go to his true calling and become the next Star Trek bad guy

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:50 AM

10. Seminole county while still red

it is not as red as it used to be. I smiled lots when I saw the Dorworth and Plakon losses. Dems made major in roads in the state legislation this election cycle. I think Pena lost too. He is jerk.

And judges
Dummy Scott didn't get his way. Actually he failed on every thing this time. Don't worry he will be gone soon. He is up for re-election in 2014. If he runs again he will lose badly.

But this all makes me happy as I live in Seminole county and I did get off my butt this year volunteered for Obama. I will be doing the same for all dem candidates in 2014. I want Seminole county to join Orange and Osceola counties in being BLUE!

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Response to kydo (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:57 AM

13. I don't think it will ever be solid blue.

But I think it has a chance to have an awakening.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:28 AM

23. No county is ever solid Blue or solid Red in FL

For example: Florida's 17th district just ousted their Democratic Representative, Frederica Wilson (The Hat Lady).... The 17th runs through parts of Broward and Miami-Dade counties both of which voted overwhelmingly for President Obama. 67.11% v 32.24% in Broward and 61.58% vs 37.88% in Miami-Dade.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #23)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:30 AM

24. We are a complicated bunch, aren't we?

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:43 AM

32. As well we should be....

simple is...well simple (in the negative sense of the word)

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Response to kydo (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:47 AM

41. Fellow Seminole County resident here...

Clelland only won by 123 votes. I think Dorworth just figured he'd win because it's Seminole County (As Jim Phillips on 104.1 said, "You could run a turd with an "R" stamped on it and it would win in Seminole county"). A lot of credit goes to Clelland's ground game here. More than a month before the election, Mike's brother, Steve, knocked on my door asking for my vote and asking me to spread the word and get others involved. I, personally, convinced three friends who weren't planning on voting to do so (They all voted straight Dem, too).

My wife is from upstate NY and in the past has asked me why I don't want to move up there. Part of the reason is the weather. The other part of the reason is that my vote is best spent here in FL.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:51 AM

11. "Romney has pretty much nailed down Florida," said Brad Coker of Mason-Dixon Polling and Research

An exclusive Tampa Bay Times/Bay News 9 poll of likely voters along the Interstate 4 corridor finds Romney leading Obama 51 percent to 45 percent, with 4 percent undecided.

"Romney has pretty much nailed down Florida," said Brad Coker of Mason-Dixon Polling and Research, which conducted the poll for the Times and its media partners. "Unless something dramatically changes an October surprise, a major gaffe Romney's going to win Florida.''

...

"Being that this is I-4, the Florida battleground, the region of the state that usually tells you how it's going to come out, for Romney to be up 6 points right now they should be able to call Florida as soon as the polls close in Pensacola if they do their exit polling right," Coker said.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/tampa-bay-timesbay-news-9-poll-i-4-voters-back-romney-51-45/1258459

SO DELICIOUS!!!!

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:54 AM

12. I-4 is now BLUE, not a swing area...

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Response to JCMach1 (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:59 AM

15. Muchisimas Gracias ha mis amigos Puerto Riquenos.

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Response to JCMach1 (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:30 AM

26. Not really. I live in Polk County, which is part of the I-4 corridor, and it was not blue.

We are working on it but there are still holdouts.

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Response to lovelyrita (Reply #26)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:02 AM

35. I was proud of and at the same time surprised at my precinct




Located in SE Lakeland. The tally was around 450 for Obama and 380 for Romney.
Nelson got a comparable margin too. I hope this is indicative of a trend.

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Response to lovelyrita (Reply #26)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:03 AM

36. Overall in terms of total vote. Florida is now largely red and blue counties... JAX is probably

still a swing area...

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:30 AM

25. Both BH Networks Stations (CF News 13 and Bay News 9) Ran Questionable Polls

This one you mention and one on News 13 that said Connie Mack was closing in/neck and neck with Bill Nelson. These polls were SuperPac fleecing for their respective stations in order to get the all mighty dollar. Pathetic.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:33 AM

28. Bay Gossip 9

 

Bay News 9 is barely watchable, Faux News wannabe drivel, I can rarely stand to watch much more than the weather on that channel.

Especially that Al Ruechel cat. His thinly veiled right leaning commentary makes me want to slam my head on my desk.

I remember after the Rethug convention him saying that at least tropical storm Isaac kept the protesters to a minimum.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:29 AM

40. I personally know 2 Puerto Ricans (raised in NY)

who moved to that I-4 corridor. I can also tell you knowing them well (one daughter's future sister-in-law) they are NOT Republicans.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:16 PM

51. My comment in the Miami-Herald to that poll:

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:57 AM

14. Florida voters deserve our respect and gratitude

They voted by the millions despite fairly extreme efforts to suppress their vote. They stood in lines for hours ... they "fought" back when efforts were made to shut down their votes after hours in lines....they battled efforts to make make ballots overly complex and long.

The voters of Florida made the country aware of the extreme efforts made by "elected" officials to suppress their vote ... and they voted.

Florida voters made their voices heard ... despite extreme efforts to stifle their voices.

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Response to etherealtruth (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:03 AM

42. And the wait was worth it. THANK YOU FLORIDIANS!



I can't tell you how insane this whole election makes the red opposition, but I'm sure you've read about it on here or have seen it in your state too. These are the same people who fought Bill Clinton and hate every fiber in his body. They hate how he took the best ideas from both parties and made them work for the country. And the more the country succeeded, the more they hated him.

So this is how I now gauge whether we're on the right track. We must be, if that measure is any yard stick. And by the looks of the progress we've made coming out of a near depression and all completely without their help, proves it.

Thank you Floridians, for sticking it out in those long lines and sacrificing for the greater good. Keep up the fight for America and all our futures, red state & blue state, will be brighter.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:07 AM

16. Great job, Florida! Next, in 2014, remember who forced you to wait in long lines...

... to vote, and oust him/them too! There is already a "pink slip Rick" movement being launched. Let's all be sure we support it and get rid of this crook!

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:15 AM

17. NC did just the opposite!

I fear for my state now. True it just barely went for Rmoney, but we are now, with an all Repug government, trying to be AL! The best thing about NC, beside the climate and landscape, was it wasn't the deep south. Now, it looks like it's turning into crap. There'll be oil rigs in the ocean view in the front of my house, and fracking in my back yard in no time! Great!

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:17 AM

20. Best news of all....

Alan Grayson is BACK!!





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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:30 AM

27. Thank you Florida!



The images coming out of your state showing the sacrifices you made, leading to the positive results that ensued, underscores how important it is to demand our RIGHT to vote. Voting is not "a privilege", it is a RIGHT. There are 4 Constitutional Amendments that emphasize that RIGHT and we have to keep reminding the Constitution-waving loons, about that fact.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:40 AM

31. Good job Florida, you make us all proud. nt

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:01 AM

34. Great news that Grayson is back.

So happy that the Supreme Court justices will be able to rule on the state workers' 3% of pay taken by Scott beginning last July. State workers won the first round, and Scott appealed to the Supreme Court. Then he tried to switch out the judges. So very grateful that the people of Florida did not fall for it, and voted "yes" to retain them. Three percent might not sound like much, but between that money and no raise in years, so many of us are unable to keep up with our bills. The cost of living in Florida has skyrocketed as it has everywhere else.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:05 AM

37. Yay for Florida! Now if we could only get rid of Gov. Scott n/t

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:18 AM

39. I really think we saw a paradigm shift this election.

I haven't seen this kind of repudiation of "political think" since Reagan. Look at what happened around the country...marriage equality was approved in (I think) 4 states after going 32-0 for the last few years. Two states legalized marijuana, without the "for medical use" excuse. It's now OK for adults to spark one up just 'cause. Democrats didn't lose a single seat in the Senate, and picked up 2 more. While most of the tea-baggers did get re-elected to the House, a couple of the WORST got the boot, specifically Joe Walsh and Alan West, and Bachmann only won by the skin of her teeth. Barack won by a margin in the electoral college that Bush could only dream of. Voter suppression attempts were shot down. SO MUCH of the Tea Party/Republican bullshit was just plain faced down.,

This election was historical, and not just because the first African-American President was re-elected, which, as we all know, was harder than getting him elected. The way the country is thinking has changed. More people are turning away from the "me first and only" meme of the Republicans, and realizing we are all together in this. As Obama says so often, "This is the United States of America!"

I'm already enjoying looking forward to 2016 when our economy is strong, our people are healthier, our schools have better funding, our soldiers are home, and either Hillary or Joe have BOTH Obama and Big Dawg stumping for them.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:08 AM

43. With the exception of Bill Nelson,

my county went entirely red. BUT, the races were closer than ever before. So I have hope. Regarding the 2014 governor's race, Crist is a problem. His third-party candidacy in 2010 gave us Rubio instead of Kendrick Meek as our second senator. If Crist runs as a Democrat, his "flip-flop" of three different party affiliations in as many years will most likely clinch his defeat. So we have to have a very strong opponent if there's a primary. Scott has to go, and he's extremely weak on the popularity scale, so a pretty easy target!

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #43)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:18 AM

45. What you said.

I don't know why our Dem lawyers want to keep pushing Crist. I keep thinking they know that a lot of their mistakes or their client's mistakes will come back to haunt them if the State is run by real Democrats who have no compunction in listening to the complaints of ordinary citizens.

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #43)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:10 PM

49. Don't kid yourself. Meek never had a chance.

If anything, he's the one who should have dropped out. But i agree that we need to unite around one candidate in 2014. We cant shoot ourselves in the foot in a race that should be a gimme for us.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:08 PM

48. Awesome. The Solid South is dead.

Now lets get Scott out in '14.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:12 PM

50. Today, I LOVE Florida!

I went to FSU and have been so sad by what's been happening in that state. I had a friend give up a 20 year teaching career because of their punitive measures towards teachers.

One day, I may retire in North Florida and add another slice of blue!

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:21 PM

54. R#91 & K for yay yay YAY!1 & the Allen WEST jerk!1 n/t

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:57 PM

59. Wow, Great to know, ,Baitball Blogger! The money quote..

Time and again, the voters said: No more. Clean up your act. You can no longer steamroll me or my rights no matter how many perks and donations Walt Disney, Big Sugar and the trial lawyers provide for you.

The incumbents who survived had better pay attention because many of them are the enablers.

And if voters got the low-hanging fruit this year, they seem ready to harvest the entire tree.

Tuesday was a good day for common-sense conservatives. And Democrats. And anyone who wants to take this state back.

Tuesday was a good day for democracy in Florida.div]

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:59 PM

60. It's nice to see Florida get some love...

Thank you. For the record Florida voted for President Obama in 2008 as well. Made me weep tears of joy

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:51 PM

61. Lazy yard sign campaigns

Dorworth, Romney and Plakon seemed to think all they had to do was litter the landscape with thousands of signs to win.
We took out Dorworth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and Plakon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and Romney!!!!!!!!!! HaHaHaHaHaHa.
Thank you Seminole County.

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