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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:08 AM

ok, if you're gonna do a tin foil hat foiled election hack theory,

you have to figure it was a multi-state operation.
it doesn't work to plan for it all to come down to ohio specifically and then your trickery puts you over.

no, if the republicans were gonna plan to steal it, they were gonna have a theft operation plan for ohio AND florida AND a few other states.


so the reason why the rmoney campaign went ape when the networks called ohio?
is WASN'T because of anything about the theft of OHIO itself.
it wasn't because they were shocked about a hack or a patch or anonymous or whatever.
in fact, maybe everything planned was working fine, they hadn't even begun to work their magic yet.

the problem was that CALLING ohio meant that the rmoney hackers in OTHER states would give up.

think about it. it's all one big game theory game of trust, people in several states each have to decide whether or not to risk jail to hack for rmoney. if the plan works in enough key states, it's worth it, but if not, there's no point. so each one will only do their part as long as they think the grand plan will work.

so as things look bleak to the naive public, the rmoney campaign is merely calculating which and how many key states they need to steal.

then the networks come along and call the whole thing off. the rmoney campaign thinks they can still steal the election if they work their trickery in ohio, florida, virginia, and colorado, say. but now ratfuckers in virginia say what's the point, the election's over! they were prepared to risk their necks if it was down to virginia only, but now they not only think they need 2 or 3 or 4 states, they also think that maybe something went wrong in ohio and it's not going to work.

the whole web of trust falls apart and they end of stealing nothing.

all because the networks called it before the fun had even begun.




not saying i particularly buy this or any other conspiracy theory.
i'm just saying that they wouldn't have spent hundreds of millions of dollars and years of strategery and had something underhanded planned for ONLY ohio.

and really, what's the use in OBJECTING to the networks calling ohio? they can vent all they want in private. the point in objecting to the networks themselves is to get them to signal to your team that the game is still afoot.

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Reply ok, if you're gonna do a tin foil hat foiled election hack theory, (Original post)
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Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #1
oldhippydude Nov 2012 #2
graham4anything Nov 2012 #3
Frustratedlady Nov 2012 #4
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RomneyLies Nov 2012 #5

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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:26 AM

1. There were reports of vote flipping

In North Carolina. And then there was good old reliable Florida.

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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:46 AM

2. the thought just occurred to me....

it's not that i am convinced that the various ptb on the right, are not capable of all kinds of nefarious deeds... they have proven on a pretty much consistent basis that they indeed are.. but i think in the end Occam's razor will reveal the real reason to eschew the tin foil...

to witt.. the Romney Campaign as a whole was perhaps the worst executed campaign in the last 40 years.. ie (they were not that fuggen smart)

the enumerable gaffs. ..the only time he pulled his silver shoe out of his mouth, was his execution of the Gish Gallop during the first debate.. the man screwed up all the tests... from taxes, to diplomacy

any success Mr Romney may have had in the polls, was more a result of having his water carried by the right wing bubble press.. with collusion from the mainstream entertainment press..

the fact that such a man could even be in the contest in single digits should be worrisome for all who value Representative government..

in short they aren't competent enough to pull it off..

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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:01 AM

3. in 2000 major problem was traitor nader not theft

 



It wasnt that they stole florida in 2000

It was the now repudiated traiter nader talk and ron paul talk lying that both parties were same

If voters stay home
Dems lose

Just like 2010

Obama voters came to votehe won
End of story

Theft conspiracytheories are overblown
Mostly its bluff to get perception across

And remember 1960
Both sides accused of cheating

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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:41 AM

4. They couldn't get too many states involved...

or they would risk that one person might leak the plan and expose them for what they truly are.

Back to paper ballots. I will be more than happy to wait an extra day or two to hear the outcome and we will have the ballots to verify the counts, if need be. Number of ballots have to balance with number signed in.

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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:08 AM

6. that's the whole point. the plan is to have an OPTION in all battleground states, but

with the idea that you're only ever going to activate at most 2 or 3 or maybe 4.
you just don't know WHICH ones until election night.

so there has to be someone central to monitor results and tell which states to pull the trigger.

that's where a network announcement screws things up because the campaign knows it's still alive because of the theft, but the announcement makes it harder to activate the theft in the other key states.

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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:59 AM

5. There is no vote hacking

 

9/11 was not an inside job.

Benghazi was an attack on Americans and not some devious goverrnment plot.

Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

The US succesfully landed 12 men on the moon and returned them safely to the Earth.

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