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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:27 AM

Is there any evidence at all that Barack Obama wants to take anybody's guns?

What the hell? Why is Facebook all of a sudden lit up with hysterical posts about Obama coming for people's guns?? Is there anything at all to support that? I thought Obama had an abysmal gun control record.

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Reply Is there any evidence at all that Barack Obama wants to take anybody's guns? (Original post)
renie408 Nov 2012 OP
Wounded Bear Nov 2012 #1
ellisonz Nov 2012 #41
WCGreen Nov 2012 #2
PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #24
underthematrix Nov 2012 #3
abelenkpe Nov 2012 #6
LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #4
NickB79 Nov 2012 #5
liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #8
LisaL Nov 2012 #12
liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #14
Paladin Nov 2012 #37
JHB Nov 2012 #44
liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #7
Tippy Nov 2012 #9
iris27 Nov 2012 #10
SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #13
kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #11
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #15
ceejdre82 Nov 2012 #16
TlalocW Nov 2012 #17
smirkymonkey Nov 2012 #32
undeterred Nov 2012 #39
Skittles Nov 2012 #18
spanone Nov 2012 #19
Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #20
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #21
on point Nov 2012 #22
Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #23
rightsideout Nov 2012 #25
Deep13 Nov 2012 #26
Kaleva Nov 2012 #27
Trajan Nov 2012 #28
Guitarzz Nov 2012 #29
riverwalker Nov 2012 #30
justiceischeap Nov 2012 #31
Phentex Nov 2012 #33
jmowreader Nov 2012 #34
hack89 Nov 2012 #36
quaker bill Nov 2012 #35
undeterred Nov 2012 #38
Viking12 Nov 2012 #40
ellisonz Nov 2012 #42
etherealtruth Nov 2012 #43

Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:29 AM

1. It's just the NRA ramping up for the Christmas rush....

Nothing says I love you like giving lethal weapons.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:54 AM

41. Don't mock the Christmas gift choice...

...of many of our own Gungeonistas!

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:34 AM

2. I don't think he has ever once suggested any kind of gun control...

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:34 AM

24. Obama has repeatedly indicated he favors renewal of the 'assault weapons ban'. n/t

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:34 AM

3. just NRA marketing hate to increase sales

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Response to underthematrix (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:37 AM

6. +1000 nt

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:36 AM

4. Yes. It's perfectly clear for all to see

You just need to put on this hat and you can see it too:

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:37 AM

5. During the last debate

He did bring up the idea of reinstating the AWB.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:38 AM

8. Romney said he thought assault weapons should be banned as well

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:47 AM

12. That was moderate Romney, not severely conservative Romney.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:48 AM

14. that's true

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Response to LisaL (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:42 AM

37. And Yet The NRA Endorsed Romney. (nt)

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Response to Paladin (Reply #37)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:09 AM

44. Not endorsing Romney would have been a "do not vote for Romney" signal...

...to single-issue voters. Sending them off to be third-party voters would have helped Obama.

Couldn't have that, and if it did happen and Romney lost, they would have put themselves in the crosshairs of the Scapegoat Targeting System. In the actual election, the STS seems to be going for "people who just want stuff handed to them".

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:37 AM

7. I've heard people talk about conservateive media lying to republicans

The NRA is another. They make a claim that Obama is coming after their guns and bam next thing you know there is a rush to go buy more guns.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:45 AM

10. No, and in fact, under his presidency, there have been gun restrictions removed.

D.C. vs. Heller struck down the handgun ban in D.C., and a 2010 law now allows loaded guns in national parks.

So, yeah, the facts on the ground are exactly opposite of the FB idiots' hysteria.

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Response to iris27 (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:47 AM

13. In fairness to the President

Those were court cases, not policies that he changed. In fact, I'm pretty sure that his administration filed an amicus brief in support of DC's gun laws in the Heller case, but I could be wrong.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:45 AM

11. Gun control is one topic I have to say I have literally never heard him discuss, lol.

FB RWers are all crazy so OF COURSE they are screeching about this.

One friend of mine yapped about Obama and the New World Order and then said she and her husband are gonna go stock up on guns and ammo while they can.

And these are otherwise nice, intelligent people. They have spent a few years in IN and GA, though, so they probably can't help themselves.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:48 AM

15. no. which makes them trust him even less.

 

he must be up to something BIG to be so silent about it this long.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:53 AM

16. My good friend's husband rants about this...and she is brainwashed by it too....

I could go in and on about how stupid and ignorant he is...calling Obama a communist, socialist, dictator...he's gonna take guns away...blah blah....this guy posted on fb..something along the lines of, a week after the Batman shooting in Colorado...the same night as the shooting in the Sikh temple in Wisconsin, that "he was sorry for the victims and families, but if everywhere was conceal and carry, and if you have a bigger gun than the shooter, this wouldn't happen. Obama is going to take guns away" We live in Illinois, not conceal and carry law here...but Colorado and Wisconsin are, yet shootings happened. I pointed out that people should not feel compeled to carry guns to their place of worship and that more people firing guns in a dark theater with people in costumes would have been an even bigger tragedy. He of course had some NRA backed comebacks.....UGH...he pissed me off so bad throughout this election...I will have a hard time forgiving his ignorance, as he called Obama every word but the N word on FB, but he would have if it wasn't public. Makes me sick.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:57 AM

17. Two things I always point out

Obama signed into law or changed the policy of allowing guns into national parks. Something presidents back to Reagan had all vetoed.

The White House official stand on protesters outside of Obama events carrying guns is, "As long as they're following local and state laws, it's not a problem."

Then after that, I start mocking them. "Yeah, Obama is coming for your guns... Just like he did in 2008... Of course, that was based off of the gun grab program of Clinton's back in 1996... which was a continuation of his seizing guns in 1992... Also, did you know that he's going to make it illegal to be a Christian? Just like you guys claimed he would in 2008... and Clinton in 1996... and 1992..."

Eventually they understand I'm making fun of them.

TlalocW

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Response to TlalocW (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:45 AM

32. Reminds me of the idiot cab driver I had yesterday who said Obama was going to

destroy Mutual Funds. (I had mentioned to him that I used to work for a MF giant.) I told him that he was completely wrong and why on earth would the Obama Admin want to destroy MF's anyway? It made no sense. The guy had obviously been overdosing on Fox news or something.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #32)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:50 AM

39. Thats it! Obama needs the guns to destroy Mutual Funds!

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:58 AM

18. it's just the usual gun nut paranoia

cowards getting the vapors

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:00 AM

19. because fear runs more folks into the NRA nets

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:07 AM

20. No. And I am delighted with his abysmal gun control record!

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:24 AM

21. Hell, yeah...

Gore was gonna take 'em, too...

Ever body knew it...

Fox told us all...
DBH

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:30 AM

22. Yes! I found a secret coded message in my Fruit Loops box this morning

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:32 AM

23. They've been saying this since Carter.

Interesting that it's never happened. These nutballs work themselves into a frenzy, correction, the NRA work them up into a frenzy every 4 years. It's the way they get stupid people to continue to re-up their membership.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:53 AM

25. No evidence

Guns are an issue alot of politicians would just rather avoid.

These right-wing nuts pulled the same fear mongering "Ther gonna take are guns" stunt in 2008.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:02 AM

26. No. nt

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:05 AM

27. No and such a thing couldn't get thru Congress anyways.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:35 AM

28. Yes ... and here is your evidence ....

The NRA says it; Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity agree with it .... case closed ...

It must be true ....

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:46 AM

29. The Same Mis-Information (Lies) Were Spread When President Clinton Was In Office.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:35 AM

30. many are seeing though the NRA

my sons entire deer camp all voted for Obama (and these are all 2nd amendment, former Bush supporters).

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:42 AM

31. It stems from prior to 2008 when he was campaigning and said the following:

You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.

And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.


It's from a video that was taped at a fundraiser if I recall correctly. It was his "47% moment" for the right. Like any winger is want to do, they took this to mean that he is going to take away their guns. They were convinced of this in 2008 and since it didn't happen in his first term, I'm guessing they must have convinced themselves it'll happen in the 2nd term.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:47 AM

33. Yes, this started back then...

People were saying this before the first election, but after Obama won, i didn't hear it as much.

Then it came up again during this election! Just another crazy fear tactic!

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:25 AM

34. The strange thing here...

There were two candidates in this election. One broadened gun rights. The other strengthened gun control laws

Can anyone give me a reason beyond "Obama is a Democrat," that doesn't involve skin color, why the entire Second Amendment industry would line up behind the gun grabber?

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #34)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:50 AM

36. Besides the Democratic party platform

that supports an AWB, I can't.

I assume what ever little he says is merely a bone tossed to the gun control portion of the Democratic party. The repukes take.that and twist it out of portion.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:49 AM

35. It is the one issue he has purposefully ignored

There is literally nothing to indicate he is even vaguely interested.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:48 AM

38. No, but I used to be on a crazy email list

that was all hysterical about Obama coming for everybody's guns. Not sure who signed me up for that one.

Just another lie about Obama for the red states to get themselves all worked up about.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:53 AM

40. Yes! Obama not trying to take your guns in the 1st term, is evidence that he'll try in the 2nd

Or at least that's the NRA narrative

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:00 AM

42. You can't fix stupid. n/t

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #42)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:03 AM

43. The best and only answer!

"You can't fix stupid."

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