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Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:40 PM

Black athlete having second thoughts about attending Ole Miss after election night riot.

A once solid commitment to the University of Mississippi, Carver running back Eugene Brazley, who on Feb. 25 pledged to play for the Rebels next season, is now having serious doubts.

Shortly after Carver’s 36-12 victory over South Plaquemines Friday in the bi-district round of the state playoffs, Brazley expressed concern with the predilection for racism in Oxford, Miss., and said he is now “looking around” and could decommit.

“Some of my people told me they had a riot because of (President Barack) Obama, and some of the players might be decommitting,” Brazley said. “I hadn’t really had a chance to look into it, but I’m gonna get in to it, though.

“I’m definitely looking at Arizona State right now and want to go check them out.”

Just after midnight, Wednesday, Nov. 7, University of Mississippi students gathered on campus near the Student Union to protest the re-election of Obama. The impromptu gathering, which reportedly began with 30-40 students and quickly grew to over 400, included appalling displays of racial intolerance and bigotry, with students yelling epithets and burning Obama-Biden campaign signs.


http://highschoolsports.nola.com/news/article/-1907007392258941081/carver-running-back-eugene-brazley-wavering-on-commitment-to-ole-miss-after-racially-charged-obama-protest/

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Reply Black athlete having second thoughts about attending Ole Miss after election night riot. (Original post)
RandySF Nov 2012 OP
DURHAM D Nov 2012 #1
RandySF Nov 2012 #3
Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #58
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2012 #2
MrScorpio Nov 2012 #6
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2012 #13
rdmtimp Nov 2012 #31
brush Nov 2012 #42
MrScorpio Nov 2012 #59
jillan Nov 2012 #60
Cha Nov 2012 #44
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #12
Cha Nov 2012 #45
KelleyD Nov 2012 #4
gollygee Nov 2012 #5
ceeRoy Nov 2012 #7
newspeak Nov 2012 #19
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #8
dballance Nov 2012 #10
DapperDon Nov 2012 #17
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #20
cui bono Nov 2012 #28
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #41
DapperDon Nov 2012 #29
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #39
Hippo_Tron Nov 2012 #61
AlGoreRhythms Nov 2012 #9
progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #11
LeftyMom Nov 2012 #47
mzteris Nov 2012 #14
DapperDon Nov 2012 #16
Nedsdag Nov 2012 #25
DapperDon Nov 2012 #35
mzteris Nov 2012 #57
mzteris Nov 2012 #56
LeftyMom Nov 2012 #48
DapperDon Nov 2012 #55
RB TexLa Nov 2012 #65
Hippo_Tron Nov 2012 #62
mzteris Nov 2012 #63
DapperDon Nov 2012 #15
tkmorris Nov 2012 #23
DapperDon Nov 2012 #32
Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #51
Sgent Nov 2012 #36
Unknown Beatle Nov 2012 #18
brush Nov 2012 #49
Unknown Beatle Nov 2012 #50
brush Nov 2012 #54
nolabear Nov 2012 #21
Courtesy Flush Nov 2012 #22
RomneyLies Nov 2012 #24
ashling Nov 2012 #26
DapperDon Nov 2012 #33
eridani Nov 2012 #27
rocktivity Nov 2012 #30
PD Turk Nov 2012 #34
Lunabelle Nov 2012 #37
DapperDon Nov 2012 #38
John2 Nov 2012 #46
oswaldactedalone Nov 2012 #52
ffr Nov 2012 #40
Cha Nov 2012 #43
Ichingcarpenter Nov 2012 #53
JVS Nov 2012 #64

Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:44 PM

1. Interesting. Thanks for posting.

If the southern colleges begin to lose top athletes maybe they will re-think everything.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:46 PM

3. I think Ole Miss is unique among colleges, even in the South.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:27 AM

58. I've always had issues with Ol' Miss

I went to the university of Houston, which was one of the first southern schools to have integrated athletics back in 1964. When we played Ol' Miss, they wouldn't allow the game on their football field...it was played in Tennessee, I believe, instead. Ridiculous!

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:45 PM

2. Yep, the first place I would look to is Arizona...

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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:49 PM

6. If they didn't have a race riot at AZ St like they did at Ole Miss, that's an important point

Yes, Arizona itself leaves a lot to be desired, but if the university has the right environment, that could negate whatever problems that the state presents overall.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:10 PM

13. Arizona State: "Obama Not Worthy of Degree"

Just seems like an "odd" choice if race riots over the reelection of Barack Obama was your reason for looking elsewhere.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arizona_state_obama_not_worthy_of_degree/

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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:37 PM

31. As an ASU alumnus, I resemble that remark....

... if they really felt that way, explain why he spoke at the 2009 graduation.

Also - the President Barack Obama Scholars Program.

https://students.asu.edu/obama?301=

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:02 AM

42. He should try Univ. of Az . . .

. . . in Tucson, the blue city in that crazy off-the-rails state. Rep. Raul Grijalva, who advocated a boycott of the state because of SB 1070 (Tempe), and Gabby Giffords are from there. Arizona State is in Phoenix (Tempe) right wing central.

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Response to brush (Reply #42)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:22 PM

59. Excellent point. nt

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Response to brush (Reply #42)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:19 PM

60. Yes!!! U of A is a much better school.

Of course I'm prejudiced - both myself and my daughter graduated from there.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:10 AM

44. Exactly.. that's why I didn't mention "Arizona" in my post.

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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:02 PM

12. The University of Arizona in Tuscon would be best, good school, good city. The player is right,

he should go the whole way and de-commit to Ole Miss. Other players of color and players that are concerned about racial harmony should also de-commit.

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:12 AM

45. Yes! +1

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:47 PM

4. Good on him!

Racism in any form has to be extinguished at it's core. When will they learn?

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:48 PM

5. I don't blame him at all

I know if I had a kid who were a part of a group discriminated against and planning to go to a school where that level of bigotry were displayed, I'd be worried for his safety. A riot like that is where hate crimes happen.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:51 PM

7. And I've heard the likes of Rush and other Wingnuts alluding to minorities rioting

 

If Obama lost...wow the self righteousness is blindingly ironic.

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Response to ceeRoy (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:47 PM

19. yes, all of those minorities would just be out in the street rioting if president obama had lost

(do i need a sarcasm thingy?) because ya'll know that we have large groups of black panthers waiting to riot in the street. now, certain officials (like previous elections) again, attempted some pretty dirty tricks-and no, they don't all do it. informing people to vote on wrong days, attempting to collect voters' ballots, destroying registrations, voter intimidation, phone jamming-i could go on and on. what's really, really minute; however, is voter fraud; now election fraud that's another story.

if it was stolen, like it was in 2000, yeah, there might have been rioting in the street. but, it wouldn't be those scary minorities.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:52 PM

8. i gueess that AZ might be a bit of a step up from MS...

 

after all- he's black, not hispanic.

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Response to BlueMan Votes (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:56 PM

10. Yep, they won't be asking for his papers.

That's so much better.

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Response to BlueMan Votes (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:16 PM

17. MS is a fine state.

 

Racism is alive and well in this whole country. I can't stand regional bashing. It is bullshit, and it mostly comes from people who have no clue about the region.

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Response to DapperDon (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:49 PM

20. yes- it's a fine state. it's the people who live there that are the problem.

 

nt

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Response to BlueMan Votes (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:33 PM

28. Hey now, they voted down personhood.

They're better than those they elect.

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Response to cui bono (Reply #28)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:58 PM

41. if they're better than those they elect...

 

why do they elect those that they do...?

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Response to BlueMan Votes (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:35 PM

29. I can tell you're part of the solution.

 

Keep up the fine work.

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Response to DapperDon (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:56 PM

39. if the solution involves me not going anywhere near MS...

 

you're probably correct.

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Response to DapperDon (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:02 PM

61. As someone who's spent a lot of time in MS, I agree it's a fine state

But saying racism is alive and well over the country is dismissing a very real problem. There's places in MS that black people feel unsafe going to because not only is there racism, but there's violent racism. That isn't a problem all over the country.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:56 PM

9. Good for him!!! n/t

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:57 PM

11. He should come out West to USC or Cal. nt

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:14 AM

47. If he wants to avoid entitled white kids being racist assholes USC is right out.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:10 PM

14. My son,

Barring some unforeseen circumstance, will probably be recruited for college football. I've already told him there is no way in hell he is playing for a southern school. I mean ... Alabama, auburn, Georgia, etc., all those guys have football traditition/reputation for decades.

But he's black, and I grew up in those states (I'm white) and there ain't no fing way I'm letting MY SON anywhere near those people. Blacks are fine as entertainment to them, biut they are NEVER accepted as people of inherent worth.

Nope. Ain't happening.

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Response to mzteris (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:12 PM

16. That is just not true.

 

Playing for the SEC is an honor. I hope you rethink your decision based on whatever experiences you had. Although, I can't see how it is your decision. I am not sure how old you are, but the south has come a long way. There is obviously still work to do, but I'm sure you'd agree that can be said for each and every state on the map.

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Response to DapperDon (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:07 PM

25. I think more African American athletes should think twice about attending Southern schools.

Let's face it, if they weren't great athletes, these schools wouldn't give two shits about them. For years, they were banned from playing at these schools, but since southern colleges and their coaches wanted to be competitive, they allowed them to play.

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Response to Nedsdag (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:40 PM

35. Bullshit.

 

As someone who visits the college regularly, I know from actual experience that is not true. Sounds good though, right?

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Response to Nedsdag (Reply #25)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:57 AM

57. Yup.

They're an means to an end. That is all. You think they'd let their daughter date one? Nope.

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Response to DapperDon (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:56 AM

56. I grew up loving the SEC

still a True Blue KY BBall Fan. . .

But what I say IS true. I still have relatives and former friends there. And they're prejudiced. Prejudiced as hell. Everyone they know is prejudiced. Oh some SAY they're not, but deep down, they are.

I just won't have my son put in the position of living with them. And yeah, I will have a lot of say in where he goes to school. I'm his MOM and I don't care how old he will be, he'll still respect what I have to say.

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Response to mzteris (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:21 AM

48. Good. None of the scholar athletes (pfft) at SEC schools could find their classrooms with

a schedule, a map, an hour's head start and a sherpa guide. Send your kid someplace he'll get a decent education.

The rare kid who actually makes it to the NFL has a average career of two and a half years. Just shy of enough time to get a health plan and a pension, fwiw. A shocking percentage of them are broke and divorced within a few years of leaving the league.

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Response to LeftyMom (Reply #48)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:55 AM

55. If you're implying the schools in the SEC aren't good schools,

 

you couldn't be further from the truth.

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Response to DapperDon (Reply #55)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:37 PM

65. They are implying the view of African-Americans from the rural south that many people hold


The Big ten commissioner had to back off similar remarks a couple of years ago.

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Response to mzteris (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:06 PM

62. I wouln't rule out Georgia

Athens has a reasonably progressive contingent and UGA is a great school academically.

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Response to Hippo_Tron (Reply #62)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:46 PM

63. I was born in Macon.

Lots of relatives in and around Atlanta as well as further south. Maybe Athens is different, but I d be curious where the kids grew up. Black and white.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:10 PM

15. As a huge Ole Miss fan,

 

I was extra saddened by that riot. The south is pretty red, and Ole Miss is a school full of upper class people, so the fact that they are upset over Obama's win is not that surprising; however, the way it was handled was, well, just bad. Many were upset over this, and that riot did not speak for the whole school. My brother lives there, and while he did support Romney, he was disgusted by this. I hope people remember these students don't speak for Ole Miss. Of course I am aware that many here hold views that the south is racist, so I am sure I might as well be talking to a wall.

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Response to DapperDon (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:02 PM

23. "Over 400" is a pretty sizable chunk of the student body

And please remember, we are not talking about a spirited protest here. This was a full on race riot, rife with all of the hatred and bigotry that goes with that. I'm certain there are some outstanding students and faculty at Ole Miss, just as I am certain that racists can be found on campuses in every corner of the nation, but when you have a crowd that large, acting that poorly, you have a problem that goes beyond what can be found at most other schools. Denying that is exists, or that it is indeed worse at Ole Miss than at say, Stanford, is just going to make matters worse.

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Response to tkmorris (Reply #23)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:38 PM

32. 400 is a large chunk, no doubt.

 

Over 20,000 people attend that college, so I was keeping it in perspective. I live in MS, so I am quite aware that is wasn't a spirited protest among many. All 400 weren't rowdy and racial. There were several though, and there is no excuse for it. None. I won't make excuses for it. I also won't sit back and allow the whole college or the whole state to be bashed.

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Response to DapperDon (Reply #32)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:53 AM

51. I imagine a lot of people there were just curious onlookers

who wanted to see who the idiots on campus were.

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Response to tkmorris (Reply #23)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:41 PM

36. "Full on race riot"?

What the hell??????

Where did you get that? There were no injuries, no vandalism, 4 arrests for misdemeanors, and the crowed dispersed when asked.

They burned a campaign sign in an area that regularly has bonfires, etc.

If that was a "full on" riot, I would hate to see what you call Watts, Kent State, the Rodney King riots, or the actual riots at Olemiss in '62.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:21 PM

18. Ah yes,

Arizona, the last state to make MLK day a holiday, but not after some NFL players refused to play the Super Bowl in Tempe unless the state rescinded it's decision to ban MLK day.

Yes, the same Arizona that targets Latinos for their papers.

Phoenix, a bastion of Mormons, there is no such thing as an intellectual Mormon.

Tucson, a city so proud, they decided to name the Latino portion "The South City Of Tucson" when it's actually surrounded by Tucson proper.

That Arizona.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:31 AM

49. You don't know what you're talking about about Tucson

Tucson has always been the blue part politically of admittedly crazy Arizona. It always has dem mayors and and congresspersons. Rep. Raul Grijalva, who advocated a boycott of the state because of SB 1070 (Tempe), and Gabby Giffords are from there. Also, the sheriff in Tucson said that his officers were going to be too busy to enforce SB 1070. The Udalls from back in the day were from there. Long-time Democratic Congressman Mo Udall ran for President back in the 70s and came in 2nd in a couple of primaries against Carter. His brother Steward Udall was Secretary of the Interior under Kennedy and Johnson. And South Tucson is not the "Latino" portion of Tucson. It has always been a separate city abutting Tucson that Tucson has grown around. And btw, Latinos, a very sizable part of the population, live wherever they to want all throughout the city of Tucson and surrounding county, including in South Tucson. Phoenix, two hours north, is right wing central. And the cities have a long-standing rivalry. Until recently the Tucson School district had a very popular Latino Studies program until the repugs in the Legislature up in Phoenix cancelled it. Get your facts straight.

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Response to brush (Reply #49)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:46 AM

50. I do have my facts straight.

I've been to Tucson at least a hundred times. It's a very racist city. I've seen it while there.

One example. I once went to a football game between New Mexico State and Arizona, I'm not for either team, I was invited by some friends that live in the city. Anyway, after the game we were walking to the car near the chartered bus that was taking NMSU players back to Las Cruces, U of A fans started pelting the bus with rocks and cans and shouting racial epitaphs at the players on board. I have never seen anything like that before or since. That's just one example and I have several but I'm not going to get into it.

My son has also experienced racism in Tucson.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Reply #50)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:04 AM

54. And the shooting of Gabby Giffords . . .

. . . happened in Tucson also. Of course there are racists there as in any other city in the country but it still is politically the bluest part of the state. I've been there many times and and spent time there and haven't run into what you described.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:53 PM

21. That's having the courage of your convictions. Hope he gets on somewhere else.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:54 PM

22. Arizona?

seriously?

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:05 PM

24. Can't blame the new athlestes at all

 

Why take a chance when you could play for a school that isn't so overtly racist?

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:27 PM

26. Looks like Ole Miss's football program got...

blind sided

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Response to ashling (Reply #26)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:38 PM

33. We're good at that.

 

It is part of the agony of being an Ole Miss fan.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:33 PM

27. Hey guy--get as far away as possible!

Here in the Pacific NW, we have Huskies, Cougars, Ducks and Beavers.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:36 PM

30. On The Young Turks, a congressman from Tennessee

suggested that any student athlete or "attractive coed" considering going to Ole Miss should consider the University of Memphis instead!


rocktivity

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:39 PM

34. Actions have consequences nt

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:42 PM

37. Arizona? How about FSU?

We used to be called the Berkley of the south.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:44 PM

38. Oy! I was a member here for about 5 years a while back.

 

I left a couple of years ago. Decided to come back and give it a try after the elections. I forgot how extreme so many here are. It is as if they live in a parallel universe. Anyway, I guess after being gone for so long, I forgot how the regional bashing is so widely accepted on DU. It is pretty gross.

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Response to DapperDon (Reply #38)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:14 AM

46. I'm

 

from North Carolina and know about racism in my state. So why are you so sensitive about the truth? I actually think those students should be ex spelled. I wish more Black Athletes would do the same even if it was at a North Carolina school. If that were Black students I'm pretty sure they would be disciplined. So how many white people voted for President Obama in Mississippi? I think North Carolina had 31 percent this time. And I do think it was based on race.

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Response to John2 (Reply #46)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:55 AM

52. Good post

but it's "expelled." I think Obama got 14% of the white Mississippi vote.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:57 PM

40. Sounds about right for that region.

He should take his talents elsewhere.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:08 AM

43. BEing Assholes have Consequences! Good.. I'm glad he thinking about decommitting...

..I hope he finds a good fit for him.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:00 AM

53. Ya all come back ya hear?

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:47 PM

64. Racially charged protest at Ole Miss? What would Colonel Reb say?

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