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Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:05 PM

LOL! Luntz: Fox Viewers Ought To Be Outraged Because Day In/Day Out They Were Told Romney Would Win

Frank Luntz: Fox Viewers "Ought To Be Outraged Because Day In And Day Out They Were Told" Romney Would Win




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http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/11/10/frank-luntz-fox-viewers-ought-to-be-outraged-be/191328





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Told by whom....Mr. Luntz......by whom.............?

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Reply LOL! Luntz: Fox Viewers Ought To Be Outraged Because Day In/Day Out They Were Told Romney Would Win (Original post)
kpete Nov 2012 OP
CatWoman Nov 2012 #1
uponit7771 Nov 2012 #2
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #6
dchill Nov 2012 #3
October Nov 2012 #19
October Nov 2012 #20
SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #54
DemocracyInaction Nov 2012 #4
freshwest Nov 2012 #18
Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #31
freshwest Nov 2012 #33
Dont call me Shirley Nov 2012 #40
Mz Pip Nov 2012 #46
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #5
Bucky Nov 2012 #11
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #24
BumRushDaShow Nov 2012 #7
Politicalboi Nov 2012 #8
underpants Nov 2012 #39
KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #9
AndrewP Nov 2012 #13
The Wizard Nov 2012 #42
progressoid Nov 2012 #47
submerged99 Nov 2012 #10
tomm2thumbs Nov 2012 #49
Dalai_1 Nov 2012 #12
Skidmore Nov 2012 #14
aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #15
salinen Nov 2012 #16
dem4ward Nov 2012 #17
Cha Nov 2012 #25
kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #21
Grammy23 Nov 2012 #22
freshwest Nov 2012 #26
submerged99 Nov 2012 #28
Cha Nov 2012 #23
kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #27
Jennicut Nov 2012 #29
Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #30
Jack Rabbit Nov 2012 #32
InsultComicDog Nov 2012 #34
Hamlette Nov 2012 #35
Downtown Hound Nov 2012 #48
gollygee Nov 2012 #51
zentrum Nov 2012 #36
silvershadow Nov 2012 #37
SamHarris2012 Nov 2012 #38
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #41
bleedinglib Nov 2012 #43
elbloggoZY27 Nov 2012 #44
Dont call me Shirley Nov 2012 #45
upi402 Nov 2012 #50
GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #52
Quantess Nov 2012 #53
ck4829 Nov 2012 #55

Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:06 PM

1. but they won't be

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:07 PM

2. Anyone notice the conservative speak in all his "groups" it was overt, like a Hannity show

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:16 PM

6. +1 nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:10 PM

3. Frank Luntz: Where's he been?

He seemed to be outta sight, outta mind this cycle - as opposed to just plain outta mind.

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Response to dchill (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:23 PM

19. Saw him on Bill Maher not too long ago. Smug son-of-a-gun... till now.

Now, they're all trying new ideas to see if they can spin. They are all over the map!

Frum, though, wow...

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/11/frum-on-morning-joe-remarkable-15.html

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Response to dchill (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:24 PM

20. Bill Maher accused him of being the one who made up the term "job creators" /nt

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Response to October (Reply #20)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:23 PM

54. He was.. he's the Republican "language" guy..

He comes up with all the bullshit.. Mahr also told him he was "evil". And he wasn't joking.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:12 PM

4. he was the creator of this shit

even as Obama was taking the oath....such a brotherhood of shit

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Response to DemocracyInaction (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:21 PM

18. +1,000. He's a scumbag:

Frank Luntz got paid by conservatives to test an anti-Obama film with lurid stories about his mother

by Joan Walsh

The official pollster of Fox News, Frank Luntz, is the man who renamed the estate tax the “death tax” and told Republicans to lie and call healthcare reform a “government takeover” of the medical system. It turns out he’s also the guy who tested anti-Obama films, including one that features nude photos of President Obama’s mother and depicts her as a prostitute, for a shadowy GOP donor. Now DVDs of the scurrilous film, “Dreams from My Real Father,” are finding their way into mailboxes in swing states.

Luntz won’t say who commissioned his anti-Obama focus group, and he reportedly counseled his client to go with a milder anti-Obama film by conservative Stephen K. Bannon. That’s showing up on cable television stations in swing states soon. Another film screened was Dinesh D’Souza’s fantasy “Obama: 2016,” which Luntz said didn’t test well with voters.

But the lurid anti-Obama film is showing up mailboxes in Ohio and Florida. It purports that Obama’s real father is the leftist Frank Marshall Davis, and it claims to have found photos of Ann Dunham in bondage magazines. It’s the creation of Joel Gilbert, reports Jeremy Peters in the New York Times, a conservative who has claimed he found Elvis Presley alive in a witness protection program and that Paul McCartney is actually dead. Gilbert wouldn’t disclose the donors behind his film and its distribution though he claimed he was sending out four million copies. He taunted Peters for being part of a mainstream media that hasn’t adequately vetted Obama, saying “I hope you’re not angry or jealous that I beat you to it and might win the Pulitzer Prize.”

Luntz claimed his client had doubts about the political wisdom of backing the Gilbert film, and that their approach to Luntz’s work was “I want to know if it’s as bad as I think it is.” Still, the idea that the Fox News consultant is part of testing the most lurid anti-Obama messages in a season full of them is kind of appalling. But it shouldn’t be surprising.


http://www.salon.com/2012/10/24/stay_classy_frank_luntz/

With thanks to DonViego and his thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251172782

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Response to freshwest (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:12 PM

31. Notice they didn't care if it was a pile of lies

 

they cared about how it would test with an audience.

Republicans lie because the truth doesn't benefit them.

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Response to Anthony McCarthy (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:24 PM

33. That's right. Whatever sells.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:51 PM

40. Death panels, welfare queens, makers and takers...

please add more

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Response to freshwest (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:10 PM

46. Revenge is sweet.

If the GOP doesn't think that some of this crap didn't warrant people voting just a little bit out of revenge then they are delusional.

Sticking it to creeps like this certainly crossed my mind when I voted.

Love of country and revenge are not mutually exclusive.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:15 PM

5. Is it Fox's fault they have more than their share of, shall

we say, uncritical thinkers?

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:46 PM

11. Is it my lightbulb's fault my porch is littered with dead moths?

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Response to Bucky (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:34 PM

24. Exactly!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:19 PM

7. !!!

@ your HUGE "LOL"

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:21 PM

8. From Trading Places

"Turn the machines back on"

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:51 PM

39. GET THEM BACK IN THERE

I tried to find a youtube of that today to post

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:25 PM

9. The Irony...It Burns...

The monster Atwater, Luntz, Gingrich, Reed and Rove helped create in the 90s is now destroying all they had hoped to create. There was that dream of the "permanent rushpublican majority"...totally destroyed at the ballot box in the last 2 Presidential elections. They created the bubble that had led their corrupt and inept party off the political abyss and ready to head even further into political irrelevance.

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Response to KharmaTrain (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:48 PM

13. The chickens are coming home to roost

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Response to KharmaTrain (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:01 PM

42. The Modern Prometheus (NT)

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Response to KharmaTrain (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:26 PM

47. Indeed.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:43 PM

10. Frank predicted a Romney win too.

I googled luntz to see what he had been saying about the race and the articles I found had him predicting Romney was going to win. He also got paid by American Crossroads to do polling for them. It appears he is was a part of that establishment that predicted a Romney win--the one he is now railing against.

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Response to submerged99 (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:24 PM

49. gotta try and stay ahead of the angry crowd, or be trampled by it


blend in... blend in....

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:47 PM

12. Kick n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:53 PM

14. Luntz is worried about unemployment for himself.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:55 PM

15. I wonder what Scott Rasmussen things?



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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:59 PM

16. I'm a fakir

 

Why didn't anyone tell you this?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:05 PM

17. And they'll keep watching, listening and "learning" Faux lies! Shame!

 

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Response to dem4ward (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:38 PM

25. "They'll keep watching, listening and learning"..

Zero! It seems once you've been brainwashed by fox it's not that easy to get deprogrammed.

To have the republicon pollster, Frank Luntz, say this outloud on tv is HUGE!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:29 PM

21. Uhmm...didn't he give the info to FOX?

They (RWingers) don't care about lies. They care about winning!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:31 PM

22. Fox viewers are brainwashed and taught to distrust any one but the Fox bunch.


You could almost feel sorry for them to be so duped and misguided. Almost. You'd think this whole event with Romney getting a spanking right in front of their eyes that they would turn on Fox and never trust them again. Instead, Fox will tell them sweet little lies and have them all back in the fold once again. They just don't have the skills to realize they have been duped and manipulated. That truly is sad, but more than that, it is frightening. These people VOTE and vote they did, based on the lies and half truths that Fox sold them.

I am not sure what the antidote to their propaganda is. Luntz and others like him have studied their audience and use psychological tricks and methods to lure them in and then keep them as good sheep. That is the scariest part of all. They have been inoculated against the truth. Just try telling them the truth and you'll see what you are up against. And it's not pretty. I fear for our country if they continue to use these tactics against such a large, willing bunch of followers.

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Response to Grammy23 (Reply #22)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:39 PM

26. +1. And they will continue. So we must not settle down. We get ready for 2014 or face another 2010.

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Response to Grammy23 (Reply #22)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:42 PM

28. I've been listening to right wing radio this week

I was visiting relatves in a rural area this week and so i spent a lot of time driving around and thought I'd listen to right wing radio to hear the reactions to the election drubbing of Romney.

From what i heard, the right wing radio hosts didn't learn anything and it sound as if they are going to continue on with the same messages that have made their audience an increasingly marginalized group. I didn't hear much reflection or introspection and instead heard plenty of the same anger and blame the Democrats for being traitors that have been the norm for decades. Some of the callers were demoralized and seeking reassurance and the responses they got from the various radio hosts was that Democrats were stupid and wanting to exploit the hard working Republicans and give to lazy minorities.

So, the good news for us is that the right wing (at least the radio component) will continue driving their listeners off the cliff.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:33 PM

23. LOL, indeedy.. Frank Luntz picking a Fight with

fox!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:41 PM

27. My response:

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:44 PM

29. The question is....were they hoping the polls were just bad or not real?

Anyone would half a brain could see that Obama led in the majority of the swing states the entire time. Were they hoping to keep it close enough to steal?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:51 PM

30. I was outraged

And I am not a Fox viewer but the one fact checking my famiy's allegations who watch FOX. When I would hear their 'we will win" contrary to the statisticians, I surmised they were lying again evidenced by all the lies they had told themselves till then LOL

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:18 PM

32. If Fox viewers aren't outraged by now, one might wonder if they'll ever be outraged

FoxNews has lied to them day in and day out long before The Twit won the GOP nomination.

They don't watch that electronic fish wrap to become better informed. On the contrary, they watch it have their alternate reality validated. That's why they feel battered and bruised when the real world intrudes on their fantasies of white supremacy and trickle down economics that work (an married bachelors and round squares).

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:36 PM

34. what a jackass

He is correct that they should be outraged, at people like himself

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:37 PM

35. another beautiful thing about this election is that it was proof positive Fox and Rush lie.

Won't have a huge impact, but it is better than them blaming a "flawed candidate" or some other BS.

If we could convince the GOP that having Fox lie about everything, global warming, Obama is a communist etc. is not helping their cause, I'd be happy.

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Response to Hamlette (Reply #35)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:15 PM

48. And Rasmussen and Gallup

I can't wait for another wingnut to tell me that Rasmussen is the most reliable poll and I should only listen to them.

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #48)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:34 PM

51. I've been hearing that about Gallup

Gallup is the only scientific poll. Everyone else guesses or has an agenda, or both. Gallup was right and Obama only won because of Sandy. These folks are deluded. They aren't coming out of it. They'll remain deluded right into the next election or two anyway.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:41 PM

36. Isn't this the guy...

...who TAUGHT Fox news how to speak the way they do? Isn't "Fair and Balanced" a Luntzian phrase?

They are all so sociopathic! Unable to ever take responsibility for any harm they do.

I would give my right arm to have them all secede to their own fantasy island.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:49 PM

37. They are outraged. At him. nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:50 PM

38. All conservatives should be upset....

 

They were lied to repeatedly. Look, one side told lie after lie. The other side told truth after truth. One side lied all through the primaries. The other side just sat back and listened to all the lies. One side didn't even STEP UP and squash all the hate that was going on. The other side took the high road and just basically took it.

It cost one side BIG TIME. It paid the other side BIG TIME.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:54 PM

41. Wait....WHO?

Funny!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:01 PM

43. Voter suppression!!

I think all of that B.S. about rmoney winning in a landslide was an attempt too discourage Demo. voters from going too the polls??
They were playing on the hope of discouraging the dem. voters of days past??
Guess what guys, you have awakened the great sleeping TIGER & he will tear your testicles off without any pain killers & throw them into the barn yard for the pigs too eat!! (ow, that's painful too think about)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:04 PM

44. No Love Lost

 

Fox News the GOP enabler gets what they deserve with their fake news network and anti-Obama Propagandists.

I am glad that those who voted for the President did.


Now is the time to fix the real problems that this Country has. However, to those who are still intolerant and have ugly uncalled for comments about our President I have nothing positive to state.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:10 PM

45. The gop will recalibrate and reformulate a new set of tactics to fool the people

The trick is, to be aware of that, to be vigilant and call it as it is, gop propaganda.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:25 PM

50. They're told all kinds of BS there

pfft

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:04 AM

52. Etch-a-sketch

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:20 PM

53. That's rich. (no rext)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:14 PM

55. Their news bubble probably won't burst though, they're already cooking up excuses

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