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Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:13 PM

NY Times: Where FEMA Fell Short, Occupy Was There

Even the Red Cross is sending them donations to distribute!

After its encampment in Zuccotti Park, which changed the public discourse about economic inequality and introduced the nation to the trope of the 1 percent, the Occupy movement has wandered in a desert of more intellectual, less visible projects, like farming, fighting debt and theorizing on banking. While several nouns have been occupied — from summer camp to health care — it is only with Hurricane Sandy that the times have conspired to deliver an event that fully calls upon the movement’s talents and caters to its strengths.

Maligned for months for its purported ineffectiveness, Occupy Wall Street has managed through its storm-related efforts not only to renew the impromptu passions of Zuccotti, but also to tap into an unfulfilled desire among the residents of the city to assist in the recovery. This altruistic urge was initially unmet by larger, more established charity groups, which seemed slow to deliver aid and turned away potential volunteers in droves during the early days of the disaster.

In the past two weeks, Occupy Sandy has set up distribution sites at a pair of Brooklyn churches where hundreds of New Yorkers muster daily to cook hot meals for the afflicted and to sort through a medieval marketplace of donated blankets, clothes and food. There is an Occupy motor pool of borrowed cars and pickup trucks that ferries volunteers to ravaged areas. An Occupy weatherman sits at his computer and issues regular forecasts. Occupy construction teams and medical committees have been formed.

Managing it all is an ad hoc group of tech-savvy Occupy members who spend their days with laptops on their knees, creating Google documents with action points and flow charts, and posting notes on Facebook that range from the sober (“Adobo Medical Center in Red Hook needs an 8,000 watt generator AS SOON AS POSSIBLE”) to the endearingly hilarious (“We will be treating anyone affected by Sandy, FREE of charge, with ear acupuncture this Monday”). While the local tech team sleeps, a shadow corps in London works off-hours to update the Twitter feed and to maintain the intranet. Some enterprising Occupiers have even set up a wedding registry on Amazon.com, with a wish list of necessities for victims of the storm; so far, items totaling more than $100,000 — water pumps and Sawzall saw kits — have been ordered.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/nyregion/where-fema-fell-short-occupy-sandy-was-there.html?pagewanted=all

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Luminous Animal Nov 2012 OP
qanda Nov 2012 #1
Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #2
WillyT Nov 2012 #3
Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #4
FailureToCommunicate Nov 2012 #36
UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #67
Indpndnt Nov 2012 #52
Melinda Nov 2012 #5
Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #7
me b zola Nov 2012 #6
progressoid Nov 2012 #8
cprise Nov 2012 #64
ananda Nov 2012 #9
Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #10
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #11
GliderGuider Nov 2012 #12
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myrna minx Nov 2012 #13
marmar Nov 2012 #14
myrna minx Nov 2012 #17
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #18
Raster Nov 2012 #50
Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #51
George II Nov 2012 #76
marmar Nov 2012 #77
George II Nov 2012 #78
Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #15
Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #19
Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #21
Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #22
Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #26
Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #34
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myrna minx Nov 2012 #38
Wind Dancer Nov 2012 #16
jtuck004 Nov 2012 #20
Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #23
justabob Nov 2012 #24
adirondacker Nov 2012 #27
The Wielding Truth Nov 2012 #28
DippyDem Nov 2012 #29
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Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #31
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Loge23 Nov 2012 #32
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cui bono Nov 2012 #35
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oldbanjo Nov 2012 #66
George II Nov 2012 #73
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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:17 PM

1. This is so awesome!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:43 PM

2. Kick.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:45 PM

3. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!



:kick:

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Response to WillyT (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:50 PM

4. You are welcome! Check out this amazing photo at an Occupy Sandy distribution center.

I am going to pretend that the toilet paper I sent from the "wedding" registry is in there somewhere.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:08 AM

36. This is what relief looks like! Cheers to OWS! (Occupy Sandy here)

Seems like orderly pews are finally a useful setup!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:08 AM

67. Wonderful.

 

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Response to WillyT (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:19 PM

52. Shared this yesterday. Great to see!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:50 PM

5. Dammit, there is something in my eyes!!

Oh wait - it's proud, happy tears. THIS is what social responsibility looks like.

Well done OWS, well done.

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Response to Melinda (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:05 PM

7. Yeah... I cried a little, too.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:54 PM

6. K&R

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:15 PM

8. Super Duper Rec!

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Response to progressoid (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:05 PM

64. Also rec'd ...but

The 1% will use stories like this to argue against FEMA. They will say is proves that emergency response should be left to local people.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:17 PM

9. I am so grateful!

People get to see heart and altruism winning out at last!

Occupy.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:22 PM

10. K & R

Just posted on Facebook.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:23 PM

11. Oh hold it right there

Read here this morning that Occupy is an ineffective group of dirty hippies!!!!

Now back to the real world. This is part of disaster response, and would not have happened under bush. Find the effective on the ground organizations and work with them. They know the ground better than you do nine out of ten times. Tricky part is finding the fraudulent ones.

Occupy is a very effective on the ground organization. For me it was the Frente Campesino and the on the ground neighborhood groups.

Now NYT. Of course they are making this up...

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:39 PM

12. The heart and soul of Occupy, on display for the whole world to see!

I'm speechless.

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Response to GliderGuider (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:25 PM

72. You got it!




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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:42 PM

13. .

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:43 PM

14. Wow, the Occupy Haters are conspicuously absent from this thread.

nt

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Response to marmar (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:46 PM

17. No kidding.

There sure is an angry obsession for such an "irrelevant movement".

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Response to marmar (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:47 PM

18. It might challenge their opinions

Which are separate from facts

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Response to marmar (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:14 PM

50. Aren't they though. Bravo Occupy!

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Response to marmar (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:17 PM

51. Occupy is doing exactly what a grass-roots movement should do...

and everyone is the better for it.

Politics isn't just about demonstrations, voting and writing your congresscritter. It is also helping in-depth!

When the next disaster hits, we should be ready and emulate Occupy.

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Response to marmar (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:38 PM

76. "We" are still around, just soaking in the self-aggrandizing by these guys...

....there are DOZENS of organizations providing relief to the victims of Hurricane Sandy, but I haven't seen one boasting or patting themselves on their backs simply because they're doing what any sensible, caring person or organization might do.

There's the Red Cross, Doctors without Borders, Kitchen Corps, the United States Marines, Hope For New York, Coney Island Lighthouse, Red Hook Recovers, Staten Island Recovers, the Salvation Army, and many more.

They're ALL providing relief services.

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Response to George II (Reply #76)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:41 PM

77. The New York Times writes a story and Occupy is self-aggrandizing?


The sh*t you read on DU sometimes.


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Response to marmar (Reply #77)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:49 PM

78. Yes, you are correct ("The sh*t you read on DU sometimes)...like:

....your antagonistic chip-on-the-shoulder post to which I responded:

"Wow, the Occupy Haters are conspicuously absent from this thread."

It's not about the NYT article, it's about the chip on the shoulders of the so-called "Occupy" folks, who beat their chests about how good and righteous they are. This wasn't the first thread about the braggadocio of the "Occupy" rabble, to wit:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1781918

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021778163

Don't see the Red Cross bragging, or the Doctors Without Borders bragging, or the many other organizations helping out, etc. etc. etc.

DO SOME GOOD for the sake of doing good, not for talking about how "great" you all are!!!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:44 PM

15. The Church of St. Luke and St. Matthew as distribution center:

 



One priest involved in the overall action said "This is what a church is for."

Thanks for the article!

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:07 PM

19. Beautiful photo!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:16 PM

21. Aaaaand you'd aleady posted it. So much for posting prior to actually reading an entire thread

 

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:17 PM

22. Yours looks prettier!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #22)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:57 PM

26. Thank you so much for your contribution, LA.

 

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #26)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:40 PM

34. Awww. And thanks for all you do!

Hugs!

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:34 PM

25. :) Thank You-This made my day!!!

Very Heartwarming!

The Church of St. Luke & St. Matthew
is on Facebook.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:16 AM

37. Contrast with Romney's "Relief" campaign stop...

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:59 AM

38. Breathtaking!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:45 PM

16. Fantastic!

Thanks for sharing!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:12 PM

20. Doesn't get much better! n/t

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:28 PM

24. I love the idea of using the wedding registry

to get the items they need. That's pretty clever. Yay Occupy!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:10 PM

27. Glad to see the NYTimes ran this and actually did a decent job of reporting.Yay Occupy! n/t

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:24 PM

28. OWS Movement. Our next candidates for public office should come from here.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:29 PM

29. OWS...A growing force. Wall Street...no help. nt

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Response to DippyDem (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:32 PM

30. There's Givers and then there is Takers! n/t

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:33 PM

31. I forgot to post this from the SF Gate article

"We always had mutual aid going on," she said. "It's a big part of what we do. That's the idea, to help each other. And we want to serve as a model for the larger society that, you know, everybody should be doing this."


This is true. The Occupy camps were far more than a protest space. It was a space to provide food, medical care, mental health services, and support amongst the Occupiers and for anyone else who needed these things. As a community that involved music, art, education and necessities, it was very successful. Foreclosure actions, debt relief, and disaster relief is a natural extension of mutual aid and skills learned in the Occupy camps. It is nice to see Occupy in the news again but it is good to remember they never went away.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/Occupy-Sandy-Onetime-protesters-find-new-cause-4025491.php#ixzz2BrD9cQxh

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:41 AM

68. That is absolutely true. I can vouch for everything you say

because my daughter was actively involved with Occupy Oakland and several other Occupy movements last year.

Re "The Occupy camps were far more than a protest space. It was a space to provide food, medical care, mental health services, and support amongst the Occupiers and for anyone else who needed these things. As a community that involved music, art, education and necessities, it was very successful."

Yeah, they were "very successful" until the Occupy camps were busted in what turned out to be a well-coordinated crackdown. But even after the crackdown the other activities and services continued, albeit lower key and less publicized.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:44 PM

32. You'll know them by their deeds.

Occupy is saving lives in Rockaway, a devastated community still without power and little government assistance.
Just wondering what Goldman Sachs is doing to help along with the legions of WS punks with their 6&7-figure salaries.

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Response to Loge23 (Reply #32)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:42 AM

43. That post gets a rec from me...

if I knew how!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:50 PM

33. I am in

 

awe of Occupy Sandy. What great work.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:52 PM

35. Wow, what a great write up! Good work OS! n/t

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:19 AM

39. The best part is not the supplies but the people-to-people contact

It's about climbing 23 flights of stairs in the dark to knock on the doors of people who are trapped in their apartments because they're too old or sick to walk down, to get them the food and medication they need to stay alive, and to let them know they haven't been forgotten.

It's about working with neighborhood organizations -- and even with one motorcycle club -- and putting a public face on the 99%.

It's about discovering the real-world application of all those skills that were worked out in the "sandbox" of Zuccotti Park a year ago -- feeding large numbers of people, distributing clothing and other supplies, and caring for the homeless.

There's a cold winter coming with anything between 10,000 and 40,000 people who have no homes as a result of the hurricane, and that may be beyond Occupy's ability to deal with through simple people power. But they may yet come up with something -- and at the very least, they won't stop reminding the rich and powerful that there are still citizens in need.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:25 AM

40. These are the people the righties said were lazy, dirty freeloaders?

Wow....hard to believe the right lied about something!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:28 AM

41. Cheers for Occupy!

This is a wonderful write-up in the NYT.

Even more wonderful is that Occupy is doing this good work for the people! Love this!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:31 AM

42. HATS OFF to Occupy!

The movement is coming into its own beyond protest.

Without Occupy, there never would have been a discussion about the 1%. I consider the movement vitally important to Obama's reelection.

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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:43 AM

44. I am so pleased

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:46 AM

45. Change is possible, and rapidly.

One of the biggest LIES that we are constantly fed by the oligarchy is that we must be helpless and patient and resigned...that all of these problems are just too big for us and the powers that be are already doing the best that anyone could do...

The people are waking up.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #45)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:57 PM

58. Rapidly

and one of the biggest lies, is that "change takes such a very lo-o-o-o-ng time to happen".

Yes. Rapidly..as needed.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:06 AM

46. Thanks for sharing this. My heart is a little merrier and my load a little less heavy.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:36 PM

47. 1000 points of light

This is the future.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:38 PM

48. WOW wOW wOWS!!





Heros, all!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:56 PM

49. And where was the Tea Party, out of curiosity?

Oh yeah, too busy crying and contemplating suicide because millionaires have to pay more taxes.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:05 PM

53. How do you spell relief?

O-C-C-U-P-Y

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:17 PM

54. Wonderful!

If there's hope it's with the people.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:22 PM

55. Good for them! Direct action to help the needy is more constructive and useful. nt

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:59 PM

56. The 99% has the ability to do this out of NOTHING, while the 1% can't THINK of doing for $$$$$$

for Occupy


Where's the reports on the large corporate 'people', out there where they are needed, by the people who are theor customers!? Has anyone heard anything like that in the news? Except for AB canning water to be sent, I have NOT.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:54 PM

57. Absolutely awesome OWS!! I just posted this on FBook. K&R

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:04 PM

59. ....

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:16 PM

60. why does it have to be either or?

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:54 PM

61. NYT should be brighter than this...

A Federal Agency must operate within specific guidelines, rules, and protocol. A group like Occupy, which cannot be sued, cannot be held accountable, can accomplish things that large organizations cannot. it's that simple.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #61)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:31 AM

66. Very good statement, FEMA shouldn't be expected to do all this.

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Response to oldbanjo (Reply #66)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:22 PM

73. Yes indeed - there are THOUSANDS of people helping other people in NY and NJ...

....and none of them are looking for accolades or "credit" - it's what people do in a time like this.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:10 PM

62. kick

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:41 PM

63. FEMA had to close due to bureaucracy.

Can't have government workers putting themselves or others at risk by staying open during a storm...

This is what makes self-organization so powerful.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:23 AM

65. More signs of deep changes!

This is all pretty amazing! And great!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:25 AM

69. Very cool.

GO OCCUPY!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:26 AM

70. Very proud of the Occupy Movement.

Well done lads and lassies.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:10 PM

71. What's this? An article about this in the dreaded "MAIN STREAM MEDIA"???

So, they're not as monolithic and useless as many around here thing, eh???

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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:56 PM

74. The RAINBOW PEOPLE are doing things too!

 

Not to diminished the efforts by Occupy, I want to shout out to the RAINBOW people for this. https://www.wepay.com/donations/279990407

They were down helping with Katrina as well. They have huge kitchens that are protable for the Gatherings so they are putting them to use to help people in the region hardest hit. One of the broadcasters on KVMR.org was on today. And he is taking time off to help with this. He is a chef in the rainbow gathering Kitchen and told the story of how they are feeding hundreds of people every day.

So if you can donate. Thede guys re on the street, in many communities and the more $ the better everyone will be and the more people will be fed.

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Response to Bennyboy (Reply #74)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:06 PM

79. Thanks for the link!


I'm Rainbow & Occupy. Been going to gatherings for almost 4 decades.


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Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:31 PM

75. This should be happening everywhere

In every city, and not just during disasters

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