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Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:42 AM

Epiphany strikes my 73-year-old republican sister while watching Fox News.

She hasn't voted for a Dem presidential candidate since Jimmy Carter in 1976, but something they said about Obama last week switched on the light bulb. Her son, who watches Jon Stewart, said she finally realized that Fox News and the repukes actually were Bullshit Mountain. So there is at least some good news down here from red Alabama. Also, most of my nieces and nephews are in their 30s and 40s. Four of the six voted for Obama. All of them, including my oldest sister, voted for Bush in 2000. Now I'm no longer the lonely Democrat at Thanksgiving and Christmas.

That is the only good news I have from deep behind enemy lines. Now back to a cold beer and watching my DVR and reading fun stuff on DU.

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Reply Epiphany strikes my 73-year-old republican sister while watching Fox News. (Original post)
Elwood P Dowd Nov 2012 OP
elleng Nov 2012 #1
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #2
freshwest Nov 2012 #10
Whovian Nov 2012 #3
nightscanner59 Nov 2012 #4
Flaxbee Nov 2012 #5
Elwood P Dowd Nov 2012 #14
BainsBane Nov 2012 #6
Elwood P Dowd Nov 2012 #13
BainsBane Nov 2012 #16
Mayberry Machiavelli Nov 2012 #7
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #8
Cha Nov 2012 #9
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #11
Raine Nov 2012 #12
no_hypocrisy Nov 2012 #15
Darth_Kitten Nov 2012 #17
struggle4progress Nov 2012 #18
RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #19
k2qb3 Nov 2012 #20
RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #23
Justice Nov 2012 #21
eppur_se_muova Nov 2012 #22
libdem4life Nov 2012 #24
Carni Nov 2012 #25
Warpy Nov 2012 #26
AlGoreRhythms Nov 2012 #27
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #28
MissMarple Nov 2012 #29
TexasBushwhacker Nov 2012 #30

Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:45 AM

1. a good read for us! Thanks

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:29 AM

2. Thanks for sharing that... nt

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Response to ProudProgressiveNow (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:14 AM

10. +1

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:30 AM

3. Sounds like home to me. K and R

 

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:31 AM

4. Here's hoping more wake from their Faux-brainwashed delusional

state. This election may well represent the death knell of the republican party... and I, for one, won't mourn their passing. I've seen the job market/economy go to crap every time they get in power since Nixon. John Boehner has already started up his stick-in-the-mud protect-the-rich tirade. Oddity is, the republican supporters I know are the worst effected by their policies.
So, keep it up, Republidipshits! Hell, get so damn right wing the Pope will shudder. We'll get the "blue" house we need in 2014 to get this country progressing again.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:36 AM

5. Isn't your name is actually, "Dowd, Elwood P."? Say hi to Harvey



Nice to see the tides slowly turning... especially in your family.

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Response to Flaxbee (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:36 AM

14. Harvey is sleeping off an election hangover.

I will tell him you said "hi".

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:41 AM

6. What switched it for your sister?

Did she say what precisely prompted her change of heart?

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:32 AM

13. I hope to find out more Thanksgiving. Didn't even know she did this until yesterday.

My nephew only said she grew tired of the constant barrage of bullshit charges about Obama and started asking him questions about it.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:46 AM

16. Please let us know

when you hear more.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:50 AM

7. Warms the cockles of my heart!

I just learned on my most recent visit home that my elderly Mom (who used to vote GOP always) watches TDS and Colbert whenever she can, bless her heart. But she stopped voting for the GOP back during GWB, decided they were too corrupt and didn't have her vote anymore so she doesn't cancel my Dad's vote anymore.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:55 AM

8. Keep up the fight. Some of the Obama percentages were not bad, given that he didn't

campaign there and only went to Texas to raise funds.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:01 AM

9. Good Epiphany, Elwood.. may it be a trend..

in the Cosmic Conscience! It's so wonderful when people step out into the Light.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:16 AM

11. Wait until impeachment hearings start.

Remember how popular the "House Managers" were under Clinton,...and how out of touch?

Those idiots were so convinced that what they were doing was wildly popular.

So much so they printed tickets.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:21 AM

12. That's very good news! :-) nt

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:34 AM

15. Congratulations on your sister's awakening.

I'm dealing with a 90 year old father, addicted to FOX News. When he votes, it's more like a Nielssen survey rather than an exercise in democracy. He just likes to be entertained.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:50 AM

17. I'm happy for you.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:01 PM

18. first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, and then you win!

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:29 PM

19. this sounds super important

 


Can we get some more specifics as to exactly what happened, this might help us understand how to deprogram others.

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:34 PM

20. I've seen a lot of folks waking up this week...

The bubble was so completely detached from reality leading into the election that even the hardcore brainwashed FOX viewers couldn't help but notice when it popped.

Once that happens, once they lose faith in their oracles, they become capable of smelling the BS.

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Response to k2qb3 (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:15 PM

23. oh man, you made my day

 

Thanks!

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:41 PM

21. What was the epiphany?



What is interesting is that post election, there is an epiphany that Fox's reporting about the election and how Romney and Obama were doing/level of support - that they had it exactly wrong - they were living in a bubble.

So the epiphany was not about the issues - it was about Fox not knowing what was happening in the US, in the battleground states, etc.

I think the epiphany will come in stages - the first has happened - their statements about Romney's support and Obama's support were wrong. Horribly wrong. They looked stupid, ignorant at the core.

The next wave of epiphany may be, hey, Fox tells me Obama is bad. Yet more than 50% of the country voted for him. Why, maybe I need to understand why. It reminds of what Republicans said after the first debate - that Obama's campaign and the DNC spent millions trying to define Mitt, but once Mitt went thru the first debate, people saw him as not crazy, not wacko - and so people said, oh, he is not who the commercials and the Democrats say he is. Perhaps some will actually listen to what Obama says, instead of listening to Sean Hannity tell them what Obama says -- perhaps they will judge for themselves about who Obama is and what he says.

(an aside, my single biggest issue with news today is we don't see the person speaking, we hear a pundit telling us what the person is saying while the person is on screen but their voice is muted)


The third and most important epiphany may or may not come - which is any epiphany on issues. Will people will say, hey, Fox was wrong about who would win the election, their people had wrong information about the polls and the support and the momentum, they said Obama was crazy, and I just heard him speak and he was actually able to put sentences together and spoke of his love of this country, maybe what (fox and the conservative media) is telling me about global warming, the debt, social security, the so called fiscal cliff, is maybe not complete and maybe not accurate? Maybe I should see what others have to say and drum roll.... decide for myself based on information I gather from various sources.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:46 PM

22. Check out this AL electoral map ...

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/AL#president

Guess which counties are largely poor, black, and neglected by state gov't ... except for Jefferson Co., these are all old plantation districts -- Macon Co. 87% for Obama !

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:05 PM

24. When the ACA goes into full implementation, it will empower this Epiphany on a completely

new level. I believe that is why the Republicans were so apoplectic about it...it touches nearly everyone at some level or other. Someone's grandmother or in-law or acquaintance at work or down the hall ... it is truly game-changing. They named it derisively and now they are stuck with it as Obamacare. Ha. I believe it can make the difference for 2014 and changing The House.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:39 PM

25. My Mother is 75

Was a lifelong Republican until 2004 when she voted for Kerry, then Obama in 08 (I am a lifelong Dem voter BTW)

She would never vote for any of these current Republicans and is just as outraged as the rest of us.

She has advanced stage cancer and went out to vote for Obama on Tuesday in spite of the fact that she was afraid she wouldn't be able to stand up for very long at the precinct.

This latest round of chemo has really wiped her out, so she didn't realize she should have requested an absentee ballot instead of having to physically vote.



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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:13 PM

26. Thanks! That's how all mass movements begin

with one mental light bulb switching on at a time.

I hope you told her how delighted you are going to be from now on to have another sane person to talk to at family gatherings. Suggest they have a heretic's table instead of a kid's table this year.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:08 PM

27. I wish my home was more like .

I'm surrounded my republicans who were gloating all election season but are mysteriously silent this last week.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:11 PM

28. Thanksgiving might be fun!!!

And something to be thankful for.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:38 AM

29. Big hug Elwood. And to Harvey....

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:44 AM

30. I always let people know that Fox sued for their right to lie - AND WON! n/t

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