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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:44 PM

We need a running list of businesses closing or going after workers because of Obama's win.

Can everyone catalog them in this one thread? Then we can bookmark it and if possible use this thread as a reference to start our own counter campaign against these UnAmerican businesses. I wouldn't mind starting a Facebook page to start it off but we need more than just internet presence so maybe as we find this list growing larger and larger (and by the offhand accounts I have read, it's going to grow) we can convince a group like MoveOn.org to help us create ads and take these companies on. If we don't the GOP will most definitely use the behavior of their friends as "proof" that Obama is hurting the economy and costing us jobs.

Thanks!

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Reply We need a running list of businesses closing or going after workers because of Obama's win. (Original post)
MessiahRp Nov 2012 OP
liberalmuse Nov 2012 #1
MessiahRp Nov 2012 #3
mzmolly Nov 2012 #6
LineLineReply +
struggle4progress Nov 2012 #4
mzmolly Nov 2012 #2
Chellee Nov 2012 #7
mzmolly Nov 2012 #14
dlwickham Nov 2012 #8
mzmolly Nov 2012 #15
dlwickham Nov 2012 #16
mzmolly Nov 2012 #17
dlwickham Nov 2012 #18
mzmolly Nov 2012 #19
dlwickham Nov 2012 #20
MessiahRp Nov 2012 #11
mzmolly Nov 2012 #13
BlueStreak Nov 2012 #5
MessiahRp Nov 2012 #10
WillyT Nov 2012 #9
Drew Richards Nov 2012 #12
dlwickham Nov 2012 #21
Drew Richards Nov 2012 #22
dlwickham Nov 2012 #23
jmowreader Nov 2012 #24
Progressive dog Nov 2012 #32
LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #25
OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #28
oswaldactedalone Nov 2012 #26
CrispyQ Nov 2012 #27
libdem4life Nov 2012 #29
genxlib Nov 2012 #30
Savannahmann Nov 2012 #31
MessiahRp Nov 2012 #34
Savannahmann Nov 2012 #35
wandy Nov 2012 #33

Response to MessiahRp (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:48 PM

1. I honestly believe...

that a lot of these businesses were planning layoffs before Obama was re-elected, but they want to kill two birds with one stone. My job is in trouble and it was in trouble long before the election. Greed knows no bounds, and if corporations can squeeze out a dollar for themselves by using cheap labor in India, they will do it. Still, I would love to have a list of those businesses who "claim" they are laying off workers because of Obama (they are lying, they were planning to do this anyway). I will never spend a single dime at any of these places. Papa John's? Dead to me.

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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:50 PM

3. That's a very good point but still...

if they want to use their layoffs as a way to take shots at our President and attack our party as well as our personal choice to vote for who we want then they should be open for public condemnation and shaming.

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Response to MessiahRp (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:01 PM

6. I agree fully.

If layoffs are in retaliation for the President winning, we should take action.

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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:55 PM

4. +

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Response to MessiahRp (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:49 PM

2. Romney is also accountable, as this was his brainchild.

Removed link to Beck's website and potentially erroneous information.

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:04 PM

7. ???

The Blaze is Glenn Beck's site.

Consider the source.

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Response to Chellee (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:21 PM

14. I did consider

the source. I indicated that one can't be sure any of the companies noted are laying off due to the election. But, Beck appears to insinuate that this is so.

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:06 PM

8. don't want to give Beck any site traffic

n/t

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:21 PM

15. Good point.

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:26 PM

16. thank you ma'am

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:37 PM

17. Thank you.

I edited out my link, per your comment.

Welcome to DU!

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:50 PM

18. it's actually welcome back to DU for me

I was a long time poster and decided to come back; my original account has been closed for a while and I lost all my post counts

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:57 AM

19. I thought you

were familiar. Welcome BACK.

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:27 AM

20. thanks

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:15 PM

11. None of those companies are laying off workers though "because of" Obama

On that site they're just trying to tie every single job loss to him like every job fluctuation out there is related to him.

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Response to MessiahRp (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:19 PM

13. That's my thought as well.

I think the authors of the article are trying to insinuate so, however.

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Response to MessiahRp (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:56 PM

5. That will be easy. It will have exactly 0 companies on it

No legitimate business person would make a decision on that basis. If Obama we nationalizing industries. radically changing tax policy, implementing a police state, etc, then of course, that could affect business. But he isn't doing anything like that. I mean we're talking about 3 stinking percent on the top PERSONAL tax rate and no changes on business taxes at this point. Obama has talked about LOWERING tax rates on businesses while eliminating some abusive deductions. He has never talked about raising any business taxes except on companies that outsource jobs.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:14 PM

10. That would be only if you were blind to public statements by these companies

Not all obviously would be doing it because of Obama but if they use him as a reason, they are ripe for rebuke. And they're not talking about the personal tax rate. They're claiming Obamacare will cost them too much. They're helping the GOP spread lies about Obama's signature achievement to help take down Dems in '14 and '16 and make his agenda attempts ineffectual.

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Response to MessiahRp (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:07 PM

9. Off To The Greatest Page...

& Rec !!!

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Response to MessiahRp (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:18 PM

12. here are a few large corporations that have made such comments I have read about so far

massy energy
home depot
applebees
pappa johns
walmart
Westgate Resorts fired democrats and gave rest 5% raise
Koch bros industries
request foods
Uniform manufactuers Cintas
incomm gift cards
Rite-Hite
lacks enterprises car parts
ASG software solutions
Wynn Casinos and resorts
Legendary Inc

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Response to Drew Richards (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:28 AM

21. I'm surprised at Home Depot

if it's true

Home Depot is generally thought of as a pretty decent and socially responsible company

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:13 AM

22. Founder of homedepot Langone

Is a racist *&%^ and virulently anti-obama

Has alluded in interviews that if he is reelected he will need to reduce employees hours to be able to affrod health care for other full timers...

disgusting.

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Response to Drew Richards (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:44 PM

23. but I know that Home Depot

is very gay positive

in fact, you frequently hear of right wing attempts to boycott the company because of its support for the LGBT community

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Response to Drew Richards (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:56 PM

24. None of Home Depot's founders are still with the company

And as for them having to reduce hours to pay for health insurance for fulltimers...don't believe it. Home Depot offers health insurance to both full time and part time workers after 90 days.

There are two benefits books, one for PT, the other FT. The health insurance offered to PT is good, but the FT insurance also covers things like vasectomies. PT employees can get dental and vision coverage, but FT employees can also choose to cover family members, same sex domestic partners...they have pet insurance and a bunch of other stuff (the FT book is about an inch thick) available for FTers...I swear, if teabaggers knew how well that company takes care of its workers they'd never go back.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:30 PM

32. Home Depot site says you are right

Let's not tell the Teabaggers.

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Response to MessiahRp (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:06 PM

25. We need lists of local alternatives too n/t

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Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #25)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:20 PM

28. I'm trying desperately to do just that...

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Response to MessiahRp (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:11 PM

26. This is fun

knowing which businesses to boycott.

I own a small business and completely avoid Facebook as a result. All you can do is piss off potential customers by posting there regardless of how many might agree with you. I might have idiots for Facebook friends(and unfortunately there is some family that fills that bill) but their money is just as green as anyone else's.

It's funny to me when they come in my place of business. I listen to their rants about Obama and "libruls", agree with them, then tell my staff what dumbasses they are after they leave. I'm so thankful that we've had the good fortune to hire Dems. We had one from the other side once and she was such a pain in the ass.

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Response to MessiahRp (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:18 PM

27. My husband's company is sending IT jobs to India as quickly as they can.

Then the guys at the top get a nice pay raise & bonus.

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Response to MessiahRp (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:20 PM

29. One post listed a number of health care device-type companies and this I believe to be true

as they are part of the $716 billion reduction in Medicare costs. They overcharge, overbill, over "diagnose" and take the obscene profits to the bank. I hope the pharmaceuticals are next...rotten, dirty thieves.

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Response to MessiahRp (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:27 PM

30. Fundamentally Bad Business IQ

Quite frankly, these people have a fundamentally warped sense of business.

They seem to believe that they create their own marketplace and that employees are at their whim.

Here's a memo for them; demand creates the marketplace and they are merely seeking to fill that demand. If they don't fill it, someone else will.

The next time someone tells you they are firing employees because of politics, just tell them not to forget the bow. They are giftwrapping their market share and handing it to their competitors. People will still find a place to buy a pizza even if you are too cheap to hire people to deliver yours. People will still find a place to eat a chicken sandwich even if you make yourself too nauseating an establishment to eat in.

If you don't want to fill the demand, crawl back under your rock and let someone else who actually understands business take over.

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Response to MessiahRp (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:28 PM

31. I posted a partial list already.

The link went to another thread, which admittedly I started, describing the two pronged attack on our nations economy. One was the Plutocrats causing a spike in unemployment, and the second was the Government going over the fiscal cliff, and causing even higher unemployment. With the Rethugs secure in their seats in the House, remember they gerrymandered their seats to be as safe as possible, they are just short of bulletproof in re-election bids.

Here are the companies that have already said they're laying off.

Welch Allyn 275 layoffs
Dana Holding Corp. Unknown total, but a good portion of their 25,500 Worldwide
Stryker 1,170 positions at the last estimate.
Boston Scientific Between 1,200 and 1,400 positions eliminated
Medtronic 500 already eliminated, with another 500 slated for 2013

But that's not all.

Smith & Nephew - 770 layoffs
Abbott Labs - 700 layoffs
Covidien - 595 layoffs
Kinetic Concepts - 427 layoffs
St. Jude Medical - 300 layoffs
Hill Rom - 200 layoffs


Now, the questions is, what can we do to prevent it or minimize the impact of it. That I don't see as clearly as I understand their plan hatched months ago as an insurance policy in case Robme lost.

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Response to Savannahmann (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:40 PM

34. How many of these layoffs are claimed to be due to Obama or his re-election?

Companies just laying off employees doesn't quite qualify since they could be doing that regardless of Obama's election status or Obamacare.

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Response to MessiahRp (Reply #34)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:54 PM

35. The problem is we know the Economy is improving.

So even if they "claim" it is due to the economy, with unemployment falling, at the last report 7.9%, we know the economy is improving. So the only other reason they would lay off, and a vast majority have said it was because Obama was re-elected.

BTW Sorry it took so long to answer, I was working last night, but who knows how long that problem will stay around with the Plutocrats busy trying to destroy the economy, and the nation.

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Response to MessiahRp (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:31 PM

33. Ok Here is a link but I won't vouch that it's not Tpublican BS.........

The victory by Barack Obama on election night has resulted in a huge wave of firings and layoffs all over America. A large number of businesses seem to have suddenly shifted into panic mode. The number of layoff announcements that we have seen in the last 48 hours has been absolutely shocking.


http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/share-this-massive-list-of-post-election-firings-and-layoffs-with-everyone-you-can

The web sight has a Teapublican feel to it.
I could not find a lot of information about the author, Michael Snider.

I did track down one company mentioned in another of his articles. Boston Scientific.

Natick town officials say they are saddened by Boston Scientific Corp.'s announcement today that the company will leave Natick and reestablish its headquarters in Marlborough by 2014. But they are excited about the prospect of another major local company taking over the Boston Scientific property.


http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/natick/2012/11/natick_town_officials_sad_to_s.html

This sounds more like a move to me.
In typical disreputable Teablican fashion, if a business lays of 100 people at location A, and then hires 200 people at location B, this would be counted as 100 jobs lost because of Obama.
Not that Teapublicans would ever stretch the truth to make Obama look bad. Right!



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