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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:23 PM

If you voted for Obama, your business is not welcome!

So I found this pic of the sign on the front entrance to Southwest Shooting Range.



I then went to their website (google search) and found their FB link:

https://www.facebook.com/SWSA.AZ

They have another homemade sign there, along with this commentary:

And just to make sure there's no mistake, this ad will come out in the White Mountain Independent tomorrow...

OK folks, it's time to take a stand. We will try to demonstrate once again that the bottom line for business is principle, not money. Yes, it has been damaging at times but our values are intact. Effective immediately, if you voted for Obama, your money is no good here. You have proven beyond a doubt that you are not responsible enough to own a firearm. We have just a sign up on the front door to save you the trouble of walking all the way in here....


BTW, this is NOT a gun thread, however I'll not raise a fuss if this thread is moved. That's just how I roll.

Anyway, I think someone didn't get enough love as an infant, cause this is about as childish an act as I've ever seen. Maybe they need some DU love. What do ya'll think?

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Reply If you voted for Obama, your business is not welcome! (Original post)
Melinda Nov 2012 OP
tanyev Nov 2012 #1
SoCalDem Nov 2012 #20
justiceischeap Nov 2012 #2
Enrique Nov 2012 #3
Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #4
Cleita Nov 2012 #5
rzemanfl Nov 2012 #6
geckosfeet Nov 2012 #7
txdemsftw Nov 2012 #8
OriginalGeek Nov 2012 #9
myrna minx Nov 2012 #10
KelleyD Nov 2012 #11
Tsiyu Nov 2012 #12
standingtall Nov 2012 #13
hobbit709 Nov 2012 #14
ibegurpard Nov 2012 #15
DirkGently Nov 2012 #16
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2012 #17
Aristus Nov 2012 #18
SoCalDem Nov 2012 #19
beachbumbob Nov 2012 #21
Incitatus Nov 2012 #22
politicat Nov 2012 #23
nobodyspecial Nov 2012 #25
Takket Nov 2012 #24
derby378 Nov 2012 #26
former-republican Nov 2012 #28
derby378 Nov 2012 #31
former-republican Nov 2012 #27
Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #29
Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #30
Quantess Nov 2012 #32
AndrewP Nov 2012 #33

Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:25 PM

1. Good to know.

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Response to tanyev (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:22 PM

20. White Mountain...name fits..n/t

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:25 PM

2. It would kind of be just desserts if people stopped coming and his business failed. nt

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:26 PM

3. i'm shocked

that everything is spelled correctly.

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:26 PM

4. Even better than that--THANK YOU for letting us know what an idiot you are

so that I can avoid doing business with such a dumbass!

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:27 PM

5. After that, I wouldn't patronize his business even if I were Annie Oakley. n/t

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:28 PM

6. An AK47 phone number? Buncha commies.

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:28 PM

7. ariZona - how embarassing for you

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:29 PM

8. Wow..

just wow.

The stupid is strong..stronger than ever.

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:30 PM

9. I'm not sure I'd trust anyone that stupid to sell me a gun.

So thanks for the heads up, Pinetop.

BTW, is "pinetop" his city or a description of the area above his neck?

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:30 PM

10. The self importance of these kooks is astonishing.

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:31 PM

11. Haa! They are so disillusione that they think they are the majority...hope you have to close up shop

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:52 PM

12. But...but I thought liberals didn't like guns?



I think it's telling that this asshat's "logo" is very KKK-like.

Methinks this lunatic is very very fwaid of the unwhite.


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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:53 PM

13. So businesses have values regarding the 2nd amendment


So then where are their values in not killing coal mine workers with black lung disease?, or not killing people by by dumping toxic filth into their neighborhoods?

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:55 PM

14. I think Uncle Sam taught me how to responsibly handle a weapon.

But I don't think this clown learned how to think anywhere.

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:07 PM

15. How's he going to know?

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:11 PM

16. Jesus. (nt)

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:17 PM

17. Simply ask these idiots....

....WHAT Federal law has even been proposed by this administration in regards to gun control?

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:19 PM

18. I voted for Obama. I don't consider your business necessary.

Guns are for people who are afraid.








I'm not afraid...








So drop dead, you hamhock...

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:20 PM

19. Odd..a business that's okay with shunning 50% of possible customers

and how does one "prove" their vote? so much for secret ballot

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:22 PM

21. no end to the crazies, I'm sure there are other clubs

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:30 PM

22. Gun purchases have skyrocketed since 2008

and Obama hasn't pushed for any anti-gun legislation. He's the best thing that has happened to gun shops. What can this be but racism?

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:38 PM

23. It's Pinetop, an area that makes the rest of Arizona seem reasonable.

I went to high school in the next town over. Snowflake, Show Low, St. Johns, Pinetop and Heber are in many ways the remnants of the Mormon diaspora in the 1870s. Those little towns in NE Arizona were founded by Mormon polygamists who were sent away to preserve Mormonism in the face of increasing Federal pressure to abandon polygamy. The founders had survived the Mormon Reformation in the 1850's and 60's-- people fervent enough to survive a religious narrowing and tough enough to survive the series of famines caused by drought and locusts, and they passed that cultural history down. The towns remain somewhere north of 90% Mormon, and increasingly radically conservative.

Those communities have a deep-seated culture of separatism and a cultural expectation of repression. They take a grim pleasure in the idea that they are opposed and oppressed. Heritage '76 (the anti-abortion printers) are based there. My high school history teacher was a goldbug who revered Bo Gritz, taught New World Orderism and conspiracy theories instead of, ya know, American History, and was a survivalist (all whilst taking a government salary with full benefits, natch.) This was in the late 80's, before the Internet became a stellar vector for teh Crazy. I was 15, then, and I spent much of that school year walking out of class, down to the vice principal's office to complain, then to the library to actually study the American History I was supposed to be learning. Went to a lot of school board meetings, too. He was never disciplined, though the agreement finally reached was that I would do my homework, the school librarian would grade it, and I would get credit for work done. I was the only one to pass the AP American History test that year.

That same year, my AP biology class had a project on ecological sustainability, that included building the plans for a 1 acre sustainable human habitat. About half of the projects submitted were walled compounds with bunkers and moats for defense; about half of those had relatively enormous houses intended for polygamy after some sort of apocalyptic end. (Bio teacher was not a survivalist, did teach evolution and the scientific method, told students that the religion discussions should take place at the Seminary or at home. That edict stuck. It helped that he was the football coach, too, and was excellent at both jobs.) High school juniors relished the idea of a Red Dawn future. They learned that at home, in church and at school. When we did college counseling with the guidance counselor, girls were presented with two options - Ricks College (a 2 year Mormon owned and operated junior college) or BYU. Everywhere else, I had to apply on my own - the GC had no faintest clue how to help. That sounds awful, but boys didn't even get that - they would be going on missions after all, and college would have to wait.

The community was and, according to my mother who still has friends there, is still extremely racist. Many never accepted the 1978 revelation. Many truly believed that Native Americans had to be converted as a means of ethnic cleansing by forced assimilation. Until the mid-eighties, kids were still being removed from their families on the Hopi and Navajo (Diné) reservations and force-fostered in Mormon communities. Outsiders of any sort were barely tolerated - especially those who came as representatives of the government (including my father, a civil engineer working on the state highways.) We didn't eat in the local restaurant (singular) after trying once - our food was spat upon and my 6 year old sister's meal was coated with pepper. My tires were slashed/flattened three times, our firewood was set on fire twice, our dog was killed and somebody pooped in my mother's garden. I've been back a couple times since then -- it feels more insular, more embattled, more reactionary. Though I'm white, living there taught me, at least in part, what growing up black in Little Rock or Selma must have been like. In large part, those people are why I'm a liberal and a Democrat.

There's a significant percentage in these communities who want an excuse for a revolution, and another significant portion who may not want revolution, but would tolerate and go along with one. It's fine for us, far away and secure from that prejudice, to say let them do as they please, but there are a few liberals in that region. Before my father worked for the state, he was a Seabee (Naval Corps of Engineers). When he was in the service, his weapons were never in the house. After moving up there, we started keeping them, and I was taught to shoot, because my father assessed the chance for a lynching as possible. (Dad is many unpleasant things, but on threat assessment, he was not paranoid.) Liberals in the area do keep weapons for hunting and self defense. Should the survivalists and wannabe revolutionaries take it into their heads to start something, those few will be endangered. I agree that shooting back won't help, but armed liberals may forestall the shooting from starting.

Most of me fully supports and encourages any of the bitter losers who want to Go Galt. Most of me would help them pack. But I have a fifteen year old girl in me, who wanted nothing more than an education and an opportunity, who remembers how embattled she felt. That part of me worries for those still there.

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Response to politicat (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:45 PM

25. Very interesting perspective

Thank you for sharing and glad you made it out

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:42 PM

24. I wonder if the guy who wrote that knows

that the phrase "Your money is no good here" means "i'm giving you a product/service for free because i like/owe you" and not "you aren't allowed to shop here."

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:45 PM

26. Screw that - I'd walk in and buy a couple of boxes of ammo...

...and walk out safe in the knowledge that he just sold ammo to a Democrat, and there's not a thing he can do about it.

He could use the profits from my purchase to buy a box of tissues.

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Response to derby378 (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:48 PM

28. I personally would rather go to another shop if ones available in the town.

 

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Response to former-republican (Reply #28)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:05 PM

31. That would be good, too (n/t)

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:46 PM

27. vote with your pocket

 

It's just to drum up business for their shop and it will work.

Whether you agree with the sentiment or not ( and I don't of course) it's a brilliant business move for the owner.

I don't let little things like this bother me.

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:56 PM

29. I keep going over it in my head

If you've ever seen the movie "The Road", I'm firmly convinced that the gang that imprisons people to eat them for food later.... are composed of people like this.

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:59 PM

30. Doesn't surprise me at all. You people really don't understand at all the level of crazy we're

 

dealing with. The Secret Service is shitting bricks over how they are going to assure the President survives his second term. I am nearly certain that President Obama didn't get a single vote in Pinetop. I'll also bet he only got 3 in New River.

Wake the fuck up! We are not one nation. We have not been for years and years and those fuckers are stone-cold crazy.

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:08 PM

32. No, not childish. Capitalistic.

They know what will draw customers, period.

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Response to Melinda (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:39 PM

33. If I ever had intended to even think about them for 2 seconds, I would be hurt.

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