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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:13 PM

Lest anyone here be saddened by the sudden departure of Gen. Betrayus from CIA

This story broke today, announcing Gen. Petaeus's abrupt resignation from heading up the CIA,
due to some elicit "affair" he is having, not uncommon in Republican circles, but clearly something
the head of the CIA should avoid at all costs. I do not mourn this turn of events. On the contrary,
I am unashamedly relieved and happy about it, for the following reasons.
http://www.politicususa.com/gop-dreams-david-petraeus-president-crash-burn-affair-revelations.html

In actuality, this man was a GWBush Bag-man on steroids, who "supervised" some of the most corrupt
and criminal activities during the Iraq bloodbath in its heyday... he actively refused to allow Col. Ted
Westhusing to do his job, i.e. to shed light on the corruption by private "contractors" skimming
butt-loads of defense dollars, helping create the deficit we are now attempting to come to terms with,
nearly a decade later. In June 2005, Col. Westhusing turned up with a bullet in his head for doing his
job, which was deemed a "suicide" to the creepy shagrin of anyone who knew Westhusing, a truly
honorable man just trying to do his fucking job, who then turns up suspiciously dead.

This from The Nation in 2011.

General Petraeus's Link to a Troubling Suicide in Iraq: The Ted Westhusing Story
Greg Mitchell on June 27, 2011 - 9:40 AM ET

The scourge of suicides among American troops and reservists in Iraq and Afghanistan remains a serious and seriously underreported problem. Last month they hit a new high in the US Army, despite intensive new efforts to prevent them. One of the few high-profile cases emerged six years ago this month, and it involves a much-admired Army colonel and ethicist named Ted Westhusing—who, in his suicide note, pointed a finger at a then little-known US general named David Petraeus.

Westhusing’s widow, asked by a friend what killed this West Point scholar, replied simply: “Iraq.”

Before putting a bullet through his head, Westhusing had been deeply disturbed by abuses carried out by American contractors in Iraq, including allegations that they had witnessed or even participated in the murder of Iraqis. His suicide note included claims that his two commanders, Lt. Gen. Petraeus and Maj. Gen. Josephy Fil, tolerated a mission based on “corruption, human rights abuses and liars. I am sullied—no more. I didn’t volunteer to support corrupt, money grubbing contractors, nor work for commanders only interested in themselves.” One of those commanders: the future leader of American forces in Iraq, and then Afghanistan, Gen. David Petraeus.

Westhusing, 44, had been found dead in a trailer at a military base near the Baghdad airport in June 2005, a single gunshot wound to the head. At the time, he was the highest-ranking officer to die in Iraq. The Army concluded that he committed suicide with his service pistol and found his charges against the commanders unfounded. Petraeus and Fil would later attend Westhusing’s memorial service back in the United States.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/36661/general-petraeuss-link-troubling-suicide-iraq-ted-westhusing-story#



I feel our country is much safer and better off with this man removed as far as possible
from the key levers of power wielded by the CIA. I have no shame about feeling happy
and a huge sense of relief about this turn of events.

But maybe that's just me.

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Reply Lest anyone here be saddened by the sudden departure of Gen. Betrayus from CIA (Original post)
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 OP
flamingdem Nov 2012 #1
malokvale77 Nov 2012 #2
PuppyBismark Nov 2012 #3
kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #27
riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #4
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #5
Solly Mack Nov 2012 #6
DemocratsForProgress Nov 2012 #7
pasto76 Nov 2012 #8
rocktivity Nov 2012 #9
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #10
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #11
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #12
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #16
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #20
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #25
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #28
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #32
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #34
fadedrose Nov 2012 #33
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #38
patrice Nov 2012 #13
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #14
patrice Nov 2012 #18
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #24
coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #15
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #17
coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #19
Gabi Hayes Nov 2012 #21
Gabi Hayes Nov 2012 #22
kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #26
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #23
Gabi Hayes Nov 2012 #30
Gabi Hayes Nov 2012 #35
coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #37
spanone Nov 2012 #29
fadedrose Nov 2012 #31
Gabi Hayes Nov 2012 #36

Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:26 PM

1. Yes, thanks for this I was thinking the same, he's popular

and smart and a credible threat in 2016, Dems dodge another bullet.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:32 PM

2. I totally agree with you.

I always thought he was a creep. I see Admiral McRaven as a better model for honor in our military leaders.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:06 PM

3. The Right saw him as a possible Presidential or VP candidate, He would have been hard to defeat.

We just dodged a bullet.

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Response to PuppyBismark (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:11 PM

27. Was he Blackwater-Halliburton man on the inside?

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:09 PM

4. Here's a link to Octafish's OP about Westhusing and Petraeus from earlier. Same line of thought fyi

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021777389

Lots of excellent info there from Octafish

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:23 PM

5. Yep, I saw that, and posted my link there too. thanks for heads up tho. nt

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:38 PM

6. k/r

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:45 PM

7. Great post!

And good riddance to the general.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:29 PM

8. having a general head the CIA is a conflict in my book.

Hayden was one thing, but the former CENTCOM commander and architect of these two wars...was never happy with him in that spot

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:39 PM

9. So he eventually DID betray us.

I know we all make mistakes, but the head of the CIA putting himself in position to be blackmailed by an affair is like Michael Jordan sinking a three-pointer for the other team.


rocktivity

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:47 PM

10. Yes, but his betrayal didn't start with Ms. Broadwell

or actually I think it's MRS. Broadwell, as I understand she is also married, or
was back in Jan, when she was on John Stewart show.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-25-2012/paula-broadwell

He's always been an untrustworth character in my book, as you can no doubt
tell from my op comments.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:05 PM

11. Let's hope Obama puts in someone with a brain who knows he works for us....

Some of the worse people have held that post. Some corrupt, some conniving, some just plain evil.



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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:10 PM

12. How about Valarie Plame?

Except for that she's probably not evil enough for the job.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:26 PM

16. I have a wild suggestion...

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:35 PM

20. I'd rather see Barney replace Geithner

which I think is more in Barney's line of expertise.

But I certainly would support Frank's appointment to head the CIA,
based on that I trust the man, more than most in public office.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:03 PM

25. Him or Kucinich.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:11 PM

28. Kucinich for CIA or Treasury? I could see either

as desirable, but no very likely. I love Dennis..

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:14 PM

32. I picture him using the CIA to promote peace,....for once.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #32)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:19 PM

34. That would float my boat. :-) nt

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:14 PM

33. Great idea. Barney should be somewhere up there...

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Response to fadedrose (Reply #33)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:39 PM

38. When asked about his future all he says is that he's looking forward to,...

...not pretending to be nice to these people.

Bill Maher called him on that saying he hadn't been.

Barney said, "I didn't say I was good at it."



I think he's been offered a really good attack dog position.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:13 PM

13. Wow. I met a guy who had contracted to train Iraqi security personnel. I met him when he was in a

Long Term Care Administrator training program.

He told me that he had been In Iraq and what his job was there and that he had just received word that the entire squad he had trained had been blown up, just after he left Iraq. All dead. And he felt he had been spared, because God had a purpose for him. (I guess he had decided that purpose was to make 6+ figures a year as an LTC Administrator.)

I said if he had been blown up, at least he would have gone with the knowledge that he had chosen to be there and that was a whole lot better deal than his Iraqi squad had gotten.

We didn't talk again after that.

From this story about Col. Ted Westhusing, I'm wondering what kind of LTC Administrator this guy turned out to be.

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Response to patrice (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:22 PM

14. Sorry if I'm being dense

but I'm unclear about who you are referring to as being an LTC Administrator.

Not Patraeus. and I don't think it would be Westhusing either?

So please help me out here.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:30 PM

18. The guy whom I met who had been a contractor who trained Iraqi security forces.

He was back from Iraq and in an LTC Administrator program when I met him.

I was just thinking about Westhusing's assessment of those particular contractors:

Bryce concluded: “In September 2005, the Army’s inspector general concluded an investigation into allegations raised in the anonymous letter to Westhusing shortly before his death. It found no basis for any of the issues raised. Although the report is redacted in places, it is clear that the investigation was aimed at determining whether Fil or Petraeus had ignored the corruption and human rights abuses allegedly occurring within the training program for Iraqi security personnel.

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Response to patrice (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:47 PM

24. ah, yes. thanks for the clarity. nt

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:25 PM

15. Be-Tray-Us actually betrayed us! Hope there's a little bit of what

 

Bradley Manning received in Be-tray-us' future. Starting with full court martial and 23 hours solitary each day.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:30 PM

17. I wouldn't put any money on Betrayus ever being court martialed

Much less serve any jail time what-so-ever.

But, personally, I'd much rather see that happen to
THIS guy, instead of PFC Manning.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:33 PM

19. He resigned from the Army in 2011, so UCMJ may not have jurisdiction. But it's

 

a prosecutable offense (or it used to be) for an officer to commit adultery. Conduct unbecoming or some such . . .

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:39 PM

21. I was really PISSED when Obama put this skumbug in. What on earth was he thinking?

when is he going to learn that trying to mollify the right wing maniacs who run the repub party is the absolute wrong thing to do?

thanks very much for the most enlightening info, btw

I'd read much other stuff about how rotten Petraeus was, more from a military standpoint, but this is just too too too

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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #21)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:41 PM

22. Oh....PIers Morgan had Paul Bremer on, of all people, talking about Petrock. certainly one of

the few men more corrupt, more vile than the general himself

he started in on Libya, of course, putting Obama in the worst light possible, capably assisted by that cretin Morgan

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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #22)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:10 PM

26. Piers is so obvious with his BS.

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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #21)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:42 PM

23. My pleasure. ;-) Happy trails to you.

Roy Rogers was one of my major childhood heros.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:13 PM

30. ahhhh.....what was the name of Pat Brady's Jeep?

I remembered after about 10 seconds....first thing that came to mind was Clarabelle

that's a hint

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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #30)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:26 PM

35. got 52 minutes to spare? some amusing bits here and there TGFFF

&feature=related

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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #21)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:32 PM

37. The very first thing that started my disillusionment with Obama was his retention of

 

Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense.

WTF?????

My wife said it was a case of 'both sides playing for the same team'.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:12 PM

29. glad he's gone. military + cia = bad

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:13 PM

31. I thought that being sent to CIA was punishment....

I remember that he was uncomplimentary about our policy in Iraq and he was removed from that post for that reason. Guess I was wrong....

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Response to fadedrose (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:28 PM

36. fucking upward, I believe, is the phrase

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