Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:13 PM
99th_Monkey (7,376 posts)
Lest anyone here be saddened by the sudden departure of Gen. Betrayus from CIALast edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:30 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2)
This story broke today, announcing Gen. Petaeus's abrupt resignation from heading up the CIA,
due to some elicit "affair" he is having, not uncommon in Republican circles, but clearly something the head of the CIA should avoid at all costs. I do not mourn this turn of events. On the contrary, I am unashamedly relieved and happy about it, for the following reasons. http://www.politicususa.com/gop-dreams-david-petraeus-president-crash-burn-affair-revelations.html In actuality, this man was a GWBush Bag-man on steroids, who "supervised" some of the most corrupt and criminal activities during the Iraq bloodbath in its heyday... he actively refused to allow Col. Ted Westhusing to do his job, i.e. to shed light on the corruption by private "contractors" skimming butt-loads of defense dollars, helping create the deficit we are now attempting to come to terms with, nearly a decade later. In June 2005, Col. Westhusing turned up with a bullet in his head for doing his job, which was deemed a "suicide" to the creepy shagrin of anyone who knew Westhusing, a truly honorable man just trying to do his fucking job, who then turns up suspiciously dead. This from The Nation in 2011. General Petraeus's Link to a Troubling Suicide in Iraq: The Ted Westhusing Story I feel our country is much safer and better off with this man removed as far as possible from the key levers of power wielded by the CIA. I have no shame about feeling happy and a huge sense of relief about this turn of events. But maybe that's just me.
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| 99th_Monkey | Nov 2012 | OP | |
| flamingdem | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
| malokvale77 | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
| PuppyBismark | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
| kelliekat44 | Nov 2012 | #27 | |
| riderinthestorm | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
| Solly Mack | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
| DemocratsForProgress | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
| pasto76 | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
| rocktivity | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Nov 2012 | #10 | |
| Spitfire of ATJ | Nov 2012 | #11 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Nov 2012 | #12 | |
| Spitfire of ATJ | Nov 2012 | #16 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Nov 2012 | #20 | |
| Spitfire of ATJ | Nov 2012 | #25 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Nov 2012 | #28 | |
| Spitfire of ATJ | Nov 2012 | #32 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Nov 2012 | #34 | |
| fadedrose | Nov 2012 | #33 | |
| Spitfire of ATJ | Nov 2012 | #38 | |
| patrice | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Nov 2012 | #14 | |
| patrice | Nov 2012 | #18 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Nov 2012 | #24 | |
| coalition_unwilling | Nov 2012 | #15 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Nov 2012 | #17 | |
| coalition_unwilling | Nov 2012 | #19 | |
| Gabi Hayes | Nov 2012 | #21 | |
| Gabi Hayes | Nov 2012 | #22 | |
| kelliekat44 | Nov 2012 | #26 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Nov 2012 | #23 | |
| Gabi Hayes | Nov 2012 | #30 | |
| Gabi Hayes | Nov 2012 | #35 | |
| coalition_unwilling | Nov 2012 | #37 | |
| spanone | Nov 2012 | #29 | |
| fadedrose | Nov 2012 | #31 | |
| Gabi Hayes | Nov 2012 | #36 |
Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:26 PM
flamingdem (23,283 posts)
1. Yes, thanks for this I was thinking the same, he's popular
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and smart and a credible threat in 2016, Dems dodge another bullet.
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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:32 PM
malokvale77 (320 posts)
2. I totally agree with you.
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I always thought he was a creep. I see Admiral McRaven as a better model for honor in our military leaders.
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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:06 PM
PuppyBismark (315 posts)
3. The Right saw him as a possible Presidential or VP candidate, He would have been hard to defeat.
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We just dodged a bullet.
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Response to PuppyBismark (Reply #3)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:11 PM
kelliekat44 (1,390 posts)
27. Was he Blackwater-Halliburton man on the inside?
Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:09 PM
riderinthestorm (13,266 posts)
4. Here's a link to Octafish's OP about Westhusing and Petraeus from earlier. Same line of thought fyi
Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:23 PM
99th_Monkey (7,376 posts)
5. Yep, I saw that, and posted my link there too. thanks for heads up tho. nt
Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:45 PM
DemocratsForProgress (327 posts)
7. Great post!
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And good riddance to the general.
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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:29 PM
pasto76 (1,348 posts)
8. having a general head the CIA is a conflict in my book.
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Hayden was one thing, but the former CENTCOM commander and architect of these two wars...was never happy with him in that spot
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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:39 PM
rocktivity (36,684 posts)
9. So he eventually DID betray us.
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I know we all make mistakes, but the head of the CIA putting himself in position to be blackmailed by an affair is like Michael Jordan sinking a three-pointer for the other team.
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Response to rocktivity (Reply #9)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:47 PM
99th_Monkey (7,376 posts)
10. Yes, but his betrayal didn't start with Ms. Broadwell
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or actually I think it's MRS. Broadwell, as I understand she is also married, or
was back in Jan, when she was on John Stewart show. http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-25-2012/paula-broadwell He's always been an untrustworth character in my book, as you can no doubt tell from my op comments. |
Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:05 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,873 posts)
11. Let's hope Obama puts in someone with a brain who knows he works for us....
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Some of the worse people have held that post. Some corrupt, some conniving, some just plain evil.
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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #11)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:10 PM
99th_Monkey (7,376 posts)
12. How about Valarie Plame?
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Except for that she's probably not evil enough for the job.
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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #12)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:26 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,873 posts)
16. I have a wild suggestion...
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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #16)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:35 PM
99th_Monkey (7,376 posts)
20. I'd rather see Barney replace Geithner
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which I think is more in Barney's line of expertise.
But I certainly would support Frank's appointment to head the CIA, based on that I trust the man, more than most in public office. |
Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #20)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:03 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,873 posts)
25. Him or Kucinich.
Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #25)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:11 PM
99th_Monkey (7,376 posts)
28. Kucinich for CIA or Treasury? I could see either
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as desirable, but no very likely. I love Dennis..
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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #28)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:14 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,873 posts)
32. I picture him using the CIA to promote peace,....for once.
Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #32)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:19 PM
99th_Monkey (7,376 posts)
34. That would float my boat. :-) nt
Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #20)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:14 PM
fadedrose (5,968 posts)
33. Great idea. Barney should be somewhere up there...
Response to fadedrose (Reply #33)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:39 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,873 posts)
38. When asked about his future all he says is that he's looking forward to,...
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...not pretending to be nice to these people.
Bill Maher called him on that saying he hadn't been. Barney said, "I didn't say I was good at it." I think he's been offered a really good attack dog position. |
Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:13 PM
patrice (47,695 posts)
13. Wow. I met a guy who had contracted to train Iraqi security personnel. I met him when he was in a
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Long Term Care Administrator training program.
He told me that he had been In Iraq and what his job was there and that he had just received word that the entire squad he had trained had been blown up, just after he left Iraq. All dead. And he felt he had been spared, because God had a purpose for him. (I guess he had decided that purpose was to make 6+ figures a year as an LTC Administrator.) I said if he had been blown up, at least he would have gone with the knowledge that he had chosen to be there and that was a whole lot better deal than his Iraqi squad had gotten. We didn't talk again after that. From this story about Col. Ted Westhusing, I'm wondering what kind of LTC Administrator this guy turned out to be. |
Response to patrice (Reply #13)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:22 PM
99th_Monkey (7,376 posts)
14. Sorry if I'm being dense
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but I'm unclear about who you are referring to as being an LTC Administrator.
Not Patraeus. and I don't think it would be Westhusing either? So please help me out here. |
Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #14)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:30 PM
patrice (47,695 posts)
18. The guy whom I met who had been a contractor who trained Iraqi security forces.
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:33 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) He was back from Iraq and in an LTC Administrator program when I met him.
I was just thinking about Westhusing's assessment of those particular contractors:
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Response to patrice (Reply #18)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:47 PM
99th_Monkey (7,376 posts)
24. ah, yes. thanks for the clarity. nt
Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:25 PM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
15. Be-Tray-Us actually betrayed us! Hope there's a little bit of what
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Bradley Manning received in Be-tray-us' future. Starting with full court martial and 23 hours solitary each day.
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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #15)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:30 PM
99th_Monkey (7,376 posts)
17. I wouldn't put any money on Betrayus ever being court martialed
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Much less serve any jail time what-so-ever.
But, personally, I'd much rather see that happen to THIS guy, instead of PFC Manning. |
Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #17)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:33 PM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
19. He resigned from the Army in 2011, so UCMJ may not have jurisdiction. But it's
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a prosecutable offense (or it used to be) for an officer to commit adultery. Conduct unbecoming or some such . . .
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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:39 PM
Gabi Hayes (21,495 posts)
21. I was really PISSED when Obama put this skumbug in. What on earth was he thinking?
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when is he going to learn that trying to mollify the right wing maniacs who run the repub party is the absolute wrong thing to do?
thanks very much for the most enlightening info, btw I'd read much other stuff about how rotten Petraeus was, more from a military standpoint, but this is just too too too |
Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #21)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:41 PM
Gabi Hayes (21,495 posts)
22. Oh....PIers Morgan had Paul Bremer on, of all people, talking about Petrock. certainly one of
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the few men more corrupt, more vile than the general himself
he started in on Libya, of course, putting Obama in the worst light possible, capably assisted by that cretin Morgan |
Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #22)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:10 PM
kelliekat44 (1,390 posts)
26. Piers is so obvious with his BS.
Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #21)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:42 PM
99th_Monkey (7,376 posts)
23. My pleasure. ;-) Happy trails to you.
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Roy Rogers was one of my major childhood heros.
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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #23)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:13 PM
Gabi Hayes (21,495 posts)
30. ahhhh.....what was the name of Pat Brady's Jeep?
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I remembered after about 10 seconds....first thing that came to mind was Clarabelle
that's a hint |
Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #30)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:26 PM
Gabi Hayes (21,495 posts)
35. got 52 minutes to spare? some amusing bits here and there TGFFF
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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #21)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:32 PM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
37. The very first thing that started my disillusionment with Obama was his retention of
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Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense.
WTF????? My wife said it was a case of 'both sides playing for the same team'. |
Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:12 PM
spanone (72,278 posts)
29. glad he's gone. military + cia = bad
Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:13 PM
fadedrose (5,968 posts)
31. I thought that being sent to CIA was punishment....
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I remember that he was uncomplimentary about our policy in Iraq and he was removed from that post for that reason. Guess I was wrong....
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Response to fadedrose (Reply #31)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:28 PM
Gabi Hayes (21,495 posts)


