Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:25 PM
warrprayer (1,259 posts)
Is Andrea Mitchell a Wingnut?
caught her show twice this election cycle, and seemed to detect a pronounced right wing leaning... today they were discussing the fiscal cliff, and it sounded like a flock of parrots chanting "grand bargain! grand bargain"!
I have a bad feeling about this. Especially after listening to Obamas first speech since winning. I had hoped to never hear the word "compromise" or any of its similies come out of his mouth again after this mandate victory. But, I think I heard him say "I am not wed to any of my positions"... PLEASE, please tell me I'm wrong.....
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| warrprayer | Nov 2012 | OP | |
| sadbear | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
| EOTE | Nov 2012 | #20 | |
| godai | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
| GoCubsGo | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
| warrprayer | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
| dchill | Nov 2012 | #11 | |
| warrprayer | Nov 2012 | #19 | |
| dchill | Nov 2012 | #22 | |
| KeepItReal | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
| Berlum | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
| warrprayer | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
| elleng | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
| warrprayer | Nov 2012 | #10 | |
| elleng | Nov 2012 | #23 | |
| WeekendWarrior | Nov 2012 | #34 | |
| elleng | Nov 2012 | #35 | |
| OldDem2012 | Nov 2012 | #38 | |
| Springslips | Nov 2012 | #18 | |
| LiberalLoner | Nov 2012 | #24 | |
| IL Lib | Nov 2012 | #40 | |
| HiPointDem | Nov 2012 | #47 | |
| Lebam in LA | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
| dchill | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
| scheming daemons | Nov 2012 | #12 | |
| warrprayer | Nov 2012 | #15 | |
| immoderate | Nov 2012 | #14 | |
| warrprayer | Nov 2012 | #16 | |
| immoderate | Nov 2012 | #30 | |
| elleng | Nov 2012 | #32 | |
| immoderate | Nov 2012 | #37 | |
| Wellstone ruled | Nov 2012 | #17 | |
| warrprayer | Nov 2012 | #21 | |
| elleng | Nov 2012 | #33 | |
| brush | Nov 2012 | #25 | |
| Cha | Nov 2012 | #48 | |
| Egalitarian Thug | Nov 2012 | #26 | |
| JoePhilly | Nov 2012 | #27 | |
| HereSince1628 | Nov 2012 | #28 | |
| Motown_Johnny | Nov 2012 | #29 | |
| aint_no_life_nowhere | Nov 2012 | #31 | |
| JI7 | Nov 2012 | #36 | |
| Jamaal510 | Nov 2012 | #39 | |
| tavernier | Nov 2012 | #43 | |
| JohnnyRingo | Nov 2012 | #41 | |
| Honeycombe8 | Nov 2012 | #42 | |
| Myrina | Nov 2012 | #44 | |
| upi402 | Nov 2012 | #45 | |
| Odin2005 | Nov 2012 | #46 |
Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:26 PM
sadbear (4,219 posts)
1. I say she's more of a plutocrat than a wingnut.
Response to sadbear (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:39 PM
EOTE (12,135 posts)
20. I think there's a strong correlation between plutocrats and wingnuts.
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The great majority of them are one and the same. Even when they're blissfully unaware of it, all republicans do the bidding of their wealthy masters.
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Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:27 PM
godai (2,834 posts)
2. No, you're not wrong...and Mrs. Greenspan is RW. n/t
Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:27 PM
GoCubsGo (13,016 posts)
3. She is married to Alan Greenspan.
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'Nuff said.
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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #3)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:30 PM
warrprayer (1,259 posts)
8. ggez, thanks!
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I must have been the only one on D.U. not aware of this!
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Response to warrprayer (Reply #8)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:33 PM
dchill (7,870 posts)
11. That's not all...
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Greenspan is a lifelong admirer of Ayn Rand. He knew her personally, and was devoted to her.
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Response to dchill (Reply #11)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:38 PM
warrprayer (1,259 posts)
19. that i remember hearing
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about. I didn't know Mitchell was his wife though. A Rand devotee? That explains our economy going down the tubes.
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Response to warrprayer (Reply #19)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:41 PM
dchill (7,870 posts)
22. Indeed. Just one more reason not to...
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trust Republicans with a real economy.
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Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:27 PM
KeepItReal (5,321 posts)
4. She's married to Alan Greenspan
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The economic genius that helped quarterback the disaster of an economy President Obama inherited.
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Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:27 PM
Berlum (3,708 posts)
5. PlutoNutCrat (R) = same kinda spinner
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:29 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) ![]() |
Response to Berlum (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:31 PM
warrprayer (1,259 posts)
9. great graphic
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I didn't know who her hub was. This explains a lot.
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Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:28 PM
elleng (40,545 posts)
6. No, not at all, she's an experienced journalist,
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:29 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) and to whom she is married is irrelevant to the job she does (contrary to opinion of some.)
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Response to elleng (Reply #6)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:32 PM
warrprayer (1,259 posts)
10. Love you elleng
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:33 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) however, in this thread so far, it seems to be the opinion of all. Due to your comment, however, I shall keep an open mind.
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Response to warrprayer (Reply #10)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:41 PM
elleng (40,545 posts)
23. Thanks, open minds always appreciated,
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had a VERY long 'debate' with DUers on the subject (generally) some time ago. I don't watch her every day, but whenever I do, my opinion is confirmed. (and as I've noted, Rachel appears to share my opinion, fwiw.)
Not surprised this thread doesn't accord with my opinion; hence not reading the thread! |
Response to elleng (Reply #23)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:23 AM
WeekendWarrior (1,275 posts)
34. She's a winger
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No doubt about it.
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Response to WeekendWarrior (Reply #34)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:29 AM
elleng (40,545 posts)
35. Your ignorance, or prejudice, is showing.
Response to elleng (Reply #35)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:58 AM
OldDem2012 (3,526 posts)
38. You may not like another poster's opinion, but you have no right on DU to insult that person....
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....for expressing it.
I share the opinion that Mitchell is right of center, and I am neither ignorant nor prejudiced in any way. Maddow gets along with Mitchell because they both share common support of equal pay for women and other women's rights that should have been corrected long ago. But, other than that, they do NOT share common political beliefs, and I've been watching Mitchell since the 1970s. She was also one of the journalists to whom Valarie Plame's name was leaked, a Bush Administration plan of revenge on her husband Joe Wilson for his report that Niger "yellowcake" was not being sold to Iraq. |
Response to elleng (Reply #6)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:38 PM
Springslips (157 posts)
18. I'll second Elleng,
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But I will say that sometimes her reporting slides a bit to a Republican slant. This happens to every broadcast reporter, since they speak often adlib with out the advantage of editorial review.
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Response to Springslips (Reply #18)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:49 PM
LiberalLoner (5,341 posts)
24. That's my take on her too.
Response to elleng (Reply #6)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:21 PM
IL Lib (109 posts)
40. +1
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However, she does go at dems harder than repubs. It's annoying.
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Response to elleng (Reply #6)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:16 AM
HiPointDem (17,070 posts)
47. who she's married to is very relevant, just as it is for a man in the same position. the family
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connections of journalists to major power are always relevant.
and if anyone says journalists are impartial and these things don't play into how they perform their jobs, i say BS. |
Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:28 PM
Lebam in LA (964 posts)
7. Not sure about the "wing"
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but nutz works
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Response to Lebam in LA (Reply #7)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:34 PM
dchill (7,870 posts)
13. You can go ahead and be...
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sure about the wing.
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Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:33 PM
scheming daemons (21,273 posts)
12. She's married to an Ayn Rand disciple (Greenspan)
Response to scheming daemons (Reply #12)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:35 PM
warrprayer (1,259 posts)
15. I swear I didn't know this
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what worries me more though is the content of todays show, and the prospect of another "compromise" cave in... how is this possible after a mandate victory?
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Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:35 PM
immoderate (16,453 posts)
14. In case you don't know she is married to Alan Greenspan, who is a conservative...
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And grew up at the feet of Ayn Rand.
Unlike most DUers, I find Andrea tolerably non-partisan on the whole in her news coverage. She blows both ways. I think the same of Chuck Todd. Around here people think all MSNBC pundits should lean toward liberals. I'm a lot more left than they are mostly, but I tolerate more diversity in my entertainment. --imm |
Response to immoderate (Reply #14)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:37 PM
warrprayer (1,259 posts)
16. I try to keep
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... an open mind. You and elleng seem to agree. It was the content of todays show I found troubling.
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Response to warrprayer (Reply #16)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:03 PM
immoderate (16,453 posts)
30. elleng is good company.
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Response to immoderate (Reply #14)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:12 AM
elleng (40,545 posts)
32. Hey imm, got back here late. I agree with you about all those you mentioned here!!!
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Response to elleng (Reply #32)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:41 AM
immoderate (16,453 posts)
37. Thanks! Sometimes I read the "conspiracy" reactions to Andrea and Chuck, maybe David too --
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I wonder what DUers are seeing that I am missing. I think it's a plethora of confirmation bias.
I appreciate your concordance, and your posts. --imm |
Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:38 PM
Wellstone ruled (1,155 posts)
17. Mrs Greenpants is a
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Ayan Ryan follower. First,she is not a journalist,never was and never will be. Second,her job was a give me by Jack Welch and G.E.,as a payback to Greenpants. Third,it's all about the D.C. cocktail circuit and the Pundtocracy. Fourth,if anybody thinks the media isn't biased,you are living under rocks.
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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #17)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:39 PM
warrprayer (1,259 posts)
21. Best Handle
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I've seen on D.U. you have.
Having a spine is a dangerous thing. |
Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #17)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:19 AM
elleng (40,545 posts)
33. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong,
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Last edited Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:28 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) and you appear to be confused about the history of parties to this particular marriage: Alan Greenspan is/was the ayn rand follower.
Furthermore, about her career and private life: She went on to receive a B.A. in English literature from the University of Pennsylvania in 1967, where she served as news director of student radio station WXPN. She stayed in Philadelphia after graduation, hired as a reporter at KYW radio. Mitchell rose to prominence as the station's City Hall correspondent, and also reported for sister station KYW-TV. She moved to CBS affiliate WTOP in Washington, D.C., in 1976. Two years later, Mitchell moved to NBC's network news operation, where she served as a general correspondent. In 1979, she was named the NBC News energy correspondent and reported on the late 1970s energy crisis and the Three Mile Island nuclear accident. Mitchell also covered the White House from 1981 until becoming chief congressional correspondent in 1988. She married her second husband, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, twenty years her senior, in 1997. |
Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:19 PM
brush (1,035 posts)
25. Shumer from NY says SS . . .
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. . . is off the table. That was good to hear today.
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Response to brush (Reply #25)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:28 AM
Cha (124,597 posts)
48. Thanks brush..since I dont have a tv..
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Last edited Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:29 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I knew it was anyway.. But, I'm glad Schumer's out there verifying for those who just don't or won't get it.
WE WON, brush! |
Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:25 PM
Egalitarian Thug (7,171 posts)
26. Mrs. Greenspan, daughter of a CEO and high ranking flunky of a student loan processing organization?
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Right-wingnut from birth.
Both she and Chris Matthews are simply savvy enough to see which way the wind is blowing at the moment. Perception is everything and there is no memory in media. |
Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:28 PM
JoePhilly (16,001 posts)
27. As others are saying ... she is a right wing mouth piece ... but not a good one.
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:28 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) She's on MSNBC, but she's about as liberal as Joe Scarborough.
If you watch her show, you will find that she allows Republicans to recite RW talking points, almost unquestioned. Occasionally, she asks them a follow up, but its usually worded to give them an easy OUT. When she talks to other talking heads, she tries her best to frame the discussion within RW boundaries. When a Dem is on, she tries to frame the questions in a manner negative to the President and the left. But she's not good at it. What you can notice (and this is what might have raised your radar) is that she stutters a bunch as she tries to bridge her way to the RW talking point and framing. Its noticeable. You can see her trying to build the question so it reinforces some RW perspective. But it takes her too long. So she stumbles verbally as she does so. You can also notice when a strong dem smacks one of her silly framings into the cheap seats. She becomes very flustered. Because her efforts to reframe things in a RW model causes her to make mistakes, she can't respond when a stronger Dem point those out and disagrees with her framing. |
Response to JoePhilly (Reply #27)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:30 PM
HereSince1628 (26,670 posts)
28. Mouthpiece to the trickle-downers. Yes, that image sort of works.
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I think she can swallow whatever value Mr G sends her way.
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Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:45 PM
Motown_Johnny (15,461 posts)
29. Yes, she is a wingnut. She is good at reporting foreign political events but
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beyond that she needs to be ignored.
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Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:26 PM
aint_no_life_nowhere (18,936 posts)
31. Andrea Mitchell is definitely right of center
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I've noticed it again and again and again and again and I've sent I don't know how many e-mails to MSNBC over statements she's made. I started noticing it during the Occupy movement when she could barely contain her contempt for the participants. She invites right wing shills on her show and lets them ramble on while challenging liberals. In this clip with Chris Matthews she has a hard time containing her support for Mitt Romney. Matthews attacks Republicans in this clip and you can see how upset Mitchell looks. Matthews accuses Romney of having a hard time reaching people on an emotional level and proving that he's a human being. Mitchell abandons her unbiased journalist's hat and offers her opinion on Romney's wonderful heart and soul, arguing with Chris Matthews. Anyone who has watched Mitchell's show knows the subtle hints that she consistently sends out to show her political leanings.
“With all due respect, Mitt Romney did a very good job at that convention of showing the human side of Mitt Romney. (…) He did show the heart, the soul, and the man.” |
Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:31 AM
JI7 (40,091 posts)
36. her personal Views are most likely that of a Liberal Republican
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social liberal , fiscal conservative.
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Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:39 PM
Jamaal510 (3,164 posts)
39. I don't know her politics nor care, but Andrea doesn't seem anywhere close to being a wingnut IMO.
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Last edited Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:40 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) She did at least appear in a couple MSNBC commercials where she spoke on women's rights and people's right to vote being at risk. And she also called out Sununu for calling Obama dumb and lazy. I know others on this site have problems with her, but I think people like Hannity and O'Reilly are far worse hands down. Those two don't even try to hide their bias against Democrats and liberals, and they always say blatantly racist things on the air, whether it's Hannity and him constantly trying to make some scandal out of 2 or 3 black guys at some polling place, or O'Reilly calling blacks and Latinos "people who want stuff". Andrea doesn't always call out the GOP as much as I'd like, and I think she sometimes tries too hard to appear neutral, but at least her show is tolerable.
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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #39)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:14 PM
tavernier (627 posts)
43. Hannity and O'Reilly? Not a fair comparison.
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They don't work for a news network.
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Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:24 PM
JohnnyRingo (9,327 posts)
41. I give Mitchel more of a break than others here.
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I imagine there's a good chance she's a republican because of who she's married to, but I think she tries hard to cover it. More than right wing politics, I believe she has a great sense of accomplishment for smashing the glass ceiling as a news anchor. I think she strives to appear objective so as not to lose journalistic credibility.
Ms Mitchell tries to get the quotable quotes and let the pundits sort it out later on the evening shows. Because she doesn't dress down her subjects like Lawrence O'Donnell would, she can raise the short hairs of many a DUer for letting republicans lie to her (our) face. Because of this though she can snag the interviews that evade others on MSNBC. |
Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:04 PM
Honeycombe8 (18,006 posts)
42. She's probably Republican, but I don't care. She's fair and objective. When Sununu called Obama
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lazy and whatever, she reacted (to the extent she ever reacts....she's a stalwart old-time journalist who does not show emotion). She cocked her head ever so slightly to the side and her eyes did a short, but definite, something weird, and she asked Sununu, "Did you just call the President lazy?" In her ladylike and journalistic way, she called him on the disrespectful statement. Of course, being full of hate, Sununu repeated his statement.
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Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:19 PM
Myrina (8,960 posts)
44. She's just a plaint nut, actually.
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n/t
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Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:22 PM
upi402 (16,588 posts)
45. She's married to Allen Greenspan
And spins to the right far more than calling the RW nuts on their BS |
Response to warrprayer (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:03 PM
Odin2005 (48,255 posts)


