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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:46 PM

Jon Huntsman new Secretary of State??

It may not be so far fetched!!

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865566373/Will-Huntsman-re-join-Obama-administration-as-Secretary-of-State.html

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Reply Jon Huntsman new Secretary of State?? (Original post)
center rising Nov 2012 OP
chemp Nov 2012 #1
earthside Nov 2012 #6
MynameisBlarney Nov 2012 #10
SoCalDem Nov 2012 #12
PatSeg Nov 2012 #16
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #32
MynameisBlarney Nov 2012 #2
quinnox Nov 2012 #3
GitRDun Nov 2012 #4
PatSeg Nov 2012 #18
GitRDun Nov 2012 #31
PatSeg Nov 2012 #34
hifiguy Nov 2012 #36
PatSeg Nov 2012 #41
Brother Buzz Nov 2012 #5
sadbear Nov 2012 #9
Brother Buzz Nov 2012 #17
Barack_America Nov 2012 #26
Brother Buzz Nov 2012 #29
Barack_America Nov 2012 #35
calico1 Nov 2012 #7
tarheelsunc Nov 2012 #8
flamingdem Nov 2012 #11
KharmaTrain Nov 2012 #23
flamingdem Nov 2012 #30
hifiguy Nov 2012 #38
scheming daemons Nov 2012 #13
CurtEastPoint Nov 2012 #14
moondust Nov 2012 #15
emulatorloo Nov 2012 #19
DearHeart Nov 2012 #20
liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #21
mzmolly Nov 2012 #22
TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #24
Renew Deal Nov 2012 #28
TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #48
Barack_America Nov 2012 #25
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #45
Renew Deal Nov 2012 #27
OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #33
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #37
Bake Nov 2012 #39
WI_DEM Nov 2012 #40
MyNameGoesHere Nov 2012 #42
madinmaryland Nov 2012 #43
woolldog Nov 2012 #46
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #44
Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #47

Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:48 PM

1. interesting

But John Kerry should be given chance of first refusal.

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Response to chemp (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:52 PM

6. Yup. Kerry first.

But I have to say that on first blush, appointing Huntsman could be a very bold move.

It would further marginalize the extremist Repuglicans and Teabaggers ... and be a interesting overture to Mormons. That kind of move is what will make the Democrats a dominate political party for a generation.

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Response to earthside (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:54 PM

10. That, I like!

Mighty sharp thinkage there!

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Response to earthside (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:55 PM

12. No to Kerry.. Scott Brown comes right back to the Senate

and kerry's painfully plodding, pedantic mannerisms & speech would bore the rest of the world to death..

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Response to chemp (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:03 PM

16. Leaving his senate seat in Massachusetts

is scary to me right now. Would we see another Scott Brown? We need every vote we can get in the senate.

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Response to chemp (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:28 PM

32. Are you serious? I live in Massachusetts. I don't want an expensive election, the third in 2 years,

that Scott Brown could well win because he is better positioned than any democrat but our Governor, may be. Fuck that. People wanting Kerry as SOS need to use their fucking heads, we need as big a Senate majority as possible with the fights that are coming up the we have to win.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:48 PM

2. I'd say he'd be next most qualified

after Clinton.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:49 PM

3. Sounds good to me!

 

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:50 PM

4. I am thinking no...

Tell me what you all think but I think it would be bad strategy to give one of the few relatively sane Republicans a post that would boost their viability in 2016....especially if Hillary is the party's choice.

I could be wrong, just my opinion.

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Response to GitRDun (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:13 PM

18. You're assuming

that the Republican party will get a clue and nominate a sane, viable candidate in four years. I suppose it is possible, but I think it will take longer than four years to whip that dysfunctional party into shape.

Meanwhile, republicans won't trust anyone who works with/for this administration. They are too small minded for that. We saw how they treated Huntsman during the primaries.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:24 PM

31. Yes you are right

I am assuming that over four years, some sanity is restored over there...I figured that would be a conservative position to take in making an appointment now. You may be right and in four years they've learned nothing. In that case it wouldn't matter.

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Response to GitRDun (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:33 PM

34. I feel badly for people like Huntsman

and Colin Powell. They are basically conservative, but the republican party isn't conservative anymore, they're reactionary. I have to wonder if Jon Huntsman really voted for Mitt Romney. Old school republicans just don't fit in anywhere these days. I appreciate a sane, intelligent conservative, but they are an endangered species these days.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:34 PM

36. I am as partisan and lefty a Democrat as there is and

I agree. Jon Huntsman was the one and only sane and responsible adult in a room filled with bug-eaters, duck-fuckers, loony theocrats and used-car salesmen. He would have been a very formidable challenger to President Obama. And the Repukes treated him like a stray dog that crapped in the living room. Certainly I do not agree with him on many, many things and would not have voted for him, but he was something of a throwback to the days when there were moderate, reality-based people in the Republican Party with whom one could reasonably disagree in a civil fashion.

I am getting old. I remember Republicans like Chuck Percy, Nelson Rockefeller, Ed Brooke, Howard Baker, Gerry Ford and in my state of Minnesota, Arne Carlson and David Durenberger.

Until the Repukes abandon paleolithic theology, racism, xenophobia and rabid sexism they don't stand a chance in a national race.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #36)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:52 PM

41. I guess the one candidate

that really made the Obama camp nervous was Jon Huntsman.

I remember some of those Republicans as well, especially Chuck Percy because we lived in Illinois. There was a time when I could have healthy, invigorating debates with republicans. I usually didn't agree with them, but they made intelligent, informed points.

If someone like Jon Huntsman had won, I would have been very disappointed, but I wouldn't have been scared to death. I think he would have been a moderate and sane president.

Love your descriptions of the Republican candidates!!! Bug-eaters and duck-fuckers............

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:51 PM

5. He's eminently qualified but....

the appointment could be a stepping stone to the White House. I'm conflicted on this.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:53 PM

9. You think Huntsman would do what it takes to get the republican nomination?

If I were a betting man, I'd say the chances of him switching parties is greater than the chances of him getting the republican nomination. He's just too sane and reasonable for that base. And as we have seen with Christie, working with President Obama is a black mark for those people.

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Response to sadbear (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:04 PM

17. I might be good with him if he jumped parties before he was appointed

That would burn the bridge to my satisfaction.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:57 PM

26. If he's SOS he can't run in 2016.

He'd have to wait another 8 years until our next Dem President is gone.

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Response to Barack_America (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:10 PM

29. I thought that was just for Secretary of Defense

I'm not a Constitutional lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #29)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:36 PM

35. You can't be both in Iowa and all over the globe.

It's a practical consideration. SOS is a job that doesn't leave time for much else.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:52 PM

7. No.

No more appointing Republicans to the administration. Screw that.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:53 PM

8. I'd support it

This would instantly make him a credible figure among Americans and could lead to him being seen as a Republican leader of sorts. It could have the effect of moving the Republicans towards the center, and moving American politics overall more to the left.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:55 PM

11. NEVER. It must be someone who thinks like Obama

Huntsman is a repuke

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:43 PM

23. There Aren't That Many Differences In Foreign Policy...

...Huntsman served as President Obama's Ambassador to China and already has served in this administration. Not such a far-fetched idea at all and would keep Huntsman from organizing for 2016 (not that he stands any better chance then than he does now with such an unhinged party). I'm not sure I'm on board with him being SOS but bringing him back in some capacity might not be a bad idea...the fact he served in the Obama administration was a big liability when he tried running last year.

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Response to KharmaTrain (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:10 PM

30. Doubt they could risk including a Republican in such a sensitive post

I thought it would be Kerry, top of the tops for that role

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:36 PM

38. He is someone who I believe should be in the Administration

somewhere. Not necessarily as SOS, but something cabinet level. One of the few sane Repubs deserves some small reward for his sanity.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:56 PM

13. Not actually a horrible idea

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:56 PM

14. I'm leery of Republicans, no matter how moderate.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:57 PM

15. Hogwash.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:38 PM

19. Hell to the no. Fuck Republican Presidential Candidate Huntsman

He made his bed, now he must lie in it.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:39 PM

20. No Thank You!

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:40 PM

21. he's one of the few sane republicans and he's qualified

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:40 PM

22. No. Why help him in a future Presidential

run?

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:54 PM

24. Why beat the TeaPubliKlans if we want to appoint them to top positions

and implement their policies.

Nice seeming guy but he can work on reforming his party on his own, our job is their annihilation not to rehab them.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:59 PM

28. This guys isn't exactly a teabagger.

I can understand not supporting him, but he's not hard right.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:18 PM

48. I had no love not patience for TeaPubliKlans before the Tea crap either.

George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan weren't Teabaggers either and I don't define "moderation" as funneling wealth to the top, starving education, throwing our seniors into the street, slave wages, strip-mining the country for the profits of a few, telling sick children to eat shit and die, setting up military adventures to turn a buck, taking over the commons to get over, and shitting on those in poverty.

"Not hard right" = not an openly bigoted theocrat that yells crazy racist shit or talks up the godly virtues of rape.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:55 PM

25. Absolutely! He's qualified and it would destroy a 2016 run.

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Response to Barack_America (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:25 PM

45. how would it destroy a 2016 run...?

 

imo- it would make him a stronger candidate.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:58 PM

27. Huntsman is coming back to the administration?

Can he keep his ego in check this time? Doubt it.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:30 PM

33. No thanks. nt.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:36 PM

37. Blech. Make him go away.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:36 PM

39. Ask yourself: would a Pres. Romney have appointed a Democrat to SOS?

Hell no. Which is exactly what I say to this suggestion. Hell no.

Bake

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:37 PM

40. I'd prefer not appointing somebody from the Senate who is a Dem

such as Kerry. We need to keep as many of our Senators as possible. We can't depend that in a special election that a Dem will automatically be elected.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:53 PM

42. WHAT? Are we appeasing again?

No more republicans. We don't have to lick boots anymore.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:22 PM

43. Screw Huntsman. At least Colin Powell endorsed President Obama.

Just because he didn't say stupid crap like the rest of the repubs, he still has most of the repub beliefs.

Screw him.

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Response to madinmaryland (Reply #43)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:26 PM

46. +1

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:24 PM

44. why should we set him up for a potus run in 2016...?

 

bad idea.

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Response to center rising (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:38 PM

47. Put a Republican in as SOS

So we can blame the next terrorist attack on a consulate on them. They want to play that way? f 'em.

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