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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:24 AM

GREAT CHART: The white establishment, undone by hordes of various-colored people who demand stuff.

Eighty-Eight Percent of Romney Voters Were White
The GOP candidate’s race-based, monochromatic campaign made him a loser.




The white establishment, undone by hordes of various-colored people who demand stuff. Even as he admitted the white bloc was too small to win, O'Reilly still saw the winning side as an undifferentiated counter-bloc, rather than a coalition of Americans.

Obama won the Latino vote, 71 to 27. He also won the Asian vote, 73 to 26. Those voters all look the same to the losers. That's why they're the losers.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/scocca/2012/11/mitt_romney_white_voters_the_gop_candidate_s_race_based_monochromatic_campaign.html

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Reply GREAT CHART: The white establishment, undone by hordes of various-colored people who demand stuff. (Original post)
kpete Nov 2012 OP
bhikkhu Nov 2012 #1
barbtries Nov 2012 #4
intheflow Nov 2012 #30
left coaster Nov 2012 #2
Scuba Nov 2012 #3
freshwest Nov 2012 #5
Up2Late Nov 2012 #15
hifiguy Nov 2012 #21
maui902 Nov 2012 #53
Up2Late Nov 2012 #54
Major Hogwash Nov 2012 #29
Scuba Nov 2012 #31
nxylas Nov 2012 #35
fasttense Nov 2012 #32
TahitiNut Nov 2012 #6
mikeytherat Nov 2012 #10
slutticus Nov 2012 #23
maui902 Nov 2012 #11
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #50
trailmonkee Nov 2012 #7
sally5050 Nov 2012 #8
John2 Nov 2012 #22
JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #9
valerief Nov 2012 #12
VWolf Nov 2012 #13
Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #14
librechik Nov 2012 #16
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #17
jtuck004 Nov 2012 #18
yardwork Nov 2012 #24
spooky3 Nov 2012 #46
jtuck004 Nov 2012 #52
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #19
luv_mykatz Nov 2012 #25
hifiguy Nov 2012 #20
ck4829 Nov 2012 #26
whistler162 Nov 2012 #27
pampango Nov 2012 #34
Major Hogwash Nov 2012 #28
aandegoons Nov 2012 #33
ProSense Nov 2012 #36
Bucky Nov 2012 #37
Bucky Nov 2012 #38
Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #39
baldguy Nov 2012 #40
spooky3 Nov 2012 #48
jp11 Nov 2012 #41
CabCurious Nov 2012 #42
JackInGreen Nov 2012 #43
OverBurn Nov 2012 #44
McCamy Taylor Nov 2012 #45
spooky3 Nov 2012 #47
morningfog Nov 2012 #49
Odin2005 Nov 2012 #51

Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:28 AM

1. "That's why they're the losers"

"Those voters all look the same to the losers. That's why they're the losers."

Absolutely well said and true. And the pathetic thing is the current meme we hear from over there, that they lost because they didn't spend enough money!

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Response to bhikkhu (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:47 AM

4. it just occurred to me

if all those people just wanted stuff, they could have taken their millions upon millions of dollars and bought stuff for the people instead of wasting it on advertising.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:29 AM

30. Very good point!

They would have gained more supporters by investing directly in people. If the private sector can fix everything, then feeding people and subsidizing medical care would have been a much more popular and persuasive route to go than dirty politics; they could have done that and spent a minimal amount on PR to promote those services and really have won in a landslide.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:31 AM

2. Great! Does anyone know where a comparable gender chart might be found?

Yes, I know.. to the googlemobile with me!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:39 AM

3. Note that over half of Obama voters are white...

So much for the "it's just minorities" bullshit.


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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:50 AM

5. It always was. We need to continue to work through 2014.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:42 PM

15. On the Key & Peele (Comedy Central) Luther, President Obama's anger translator said...

..."All you White people who voted for me are now honorary Black people!"

I said, "That's Me!"

http://www.comedycentral.com/video-clips/dogxh2/key-and-peele-obama-s-anger-translator---victory

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Response to Up2Late (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:32 PM

21. That was one funny sketch.

And I said the same thing.

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Response to Up2Late (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:33 PM

53. Your post reminded me of a story from sometime ago that still makes me smile

After Arizona voters voted against a MLK holiday, the size of the annual MLK parade through downtown Phoenix swelled to include large numbers of Arizona citizens across a broad spectrum, including yours truly (at that time, a politically inactive white male lawyer with a large Phoenix large firm), to protest the decision and let the rest of the nation know that there were many Arizonans who objected to the vote against MLK day. Not too long after that wonderful day, I was approached by a group of individuals in my Valley Leadership class (a diverse group of young professionals who were selected to learn about Arizona's institutions, ostensibly to foster greater leadership and activism among young professionals), all of whom were either African American or Latino, and congratulated (warmly I might add) for being a "brother". Seeing my cluelessness as to what they were saying, they showed me the cover of the latest Phoenix Magazine, which featured a photo of the crowd marching to downtown Phoenix from a bridge under which the crowd had to walk. There, in the middle of this culturally diverse crowd, dominated by black and brown faces, was this tall white man in a business suit with his sunnies on. Even though I looked like a secret service agent, I was walking with and in support of a crowd dedicated to the same principle, that we are all brothers and sisters regardless of our skin color, ethnic background, religious upbringing, etc. I'll never forget that day or how I felt when my "brothers" officially recognized that I belonged to the same community.

For the record, I should point out that Arizona voters later corrected their mistake by being the first state to adopt an MLK holiday by voter referendum. Arpaio and Brewer notwithstanding, there are lots of progressives in Arizona trying to turn the state blue. And today it was announced that Kyrsten Sinema finally won her election against Vernon Parker; I'll think DU will really like and embrace her.

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Response to maui902 (Reply #53)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:34 PM

54. Well done!

And Welcome to DU and being a contributor after less than 20 posts too!

Me, I'm the middle son of some very progressive parents. My Mom, an Irish-Catholic and my Dad, a French born Holocaust refugee who, back in the mid-1960s, were both card carrying members of the of the NAACP and the Urban League.

For those reading this who don't fully remember the history of discrimination in this country, before the election of President John F. Kennedy in 1960, the idea of an Irish Catholic President was just crazy. Also, the Holocaust and it's effect on it's survivors was something that nobody, not even Jews, talked about until about the late-1970s when the Mini-series "Holocaust" finally broke the silence.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:02 AM

29. No one said "it's just minorities" that got President Obama re-elected.

Only 56% of President Obama's total vote count came from white voters.
While Romney got 88% of his votes from white voters.

And his 88% would have crushed President Obama's re-election bid without those minorities voting for President Obama.




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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:29 AM

31. Actually, a bunch of people are saying just that.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:54 AM

35. And have been saying it since 2008

They love to point out that 95% of the African-American vote in 2008 went to Obama. I don't know if that figure is true, but even if it is, it shows they don't understand the difference in significance between saying "95% of African-Americans voted for Obama" and "88% of people who voted for Romney were white". Hint: there's a reason they're called minority voters.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:54 PM

6. Without a doubt, I prefer the company I'm in on the lower bar.

I love rainbows and buffets, too.

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Response to TahitiNut (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:19 PM

10. Much better music at that bar, too!

mikey_the_rat

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Response to mikeytherat (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:07 PM

23. And food :)

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Response to TahitiNut (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:39 PM

11. And interestingly, the chart sort of mimics what America has become and will continue to be

in the future-multicolored, multicultural, multilingual. Sort of like your rainbow. One of the key differences between our parties: as liberals, we welcome and look forward to how these changes make us better while conservatives regard these changes as threats. And that's also why conservatives just can't see what I see in President Obama, the very epitome of that society. A man with an African American father from Kenya (who apparently was Muslim), a white mother from the U.S., who lived overseas as a young child, but grew up mostly in the U.S. and became a Christian, who chose to be a community activist rather than join a corporate law firm out of Harvard Law School, and who, as a result, symbolizes what America is becoming-more diverse and more tolerant and more like the rest of the world.

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Response to maui902 (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:48 PM

50. +1 nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:05 PM

7. Obama's strip is an American Genome

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:16 PM

8. This graph demonstrates

 

that Romney's campaign was the WHITE Religious Fanatics against the rest of America.

It's still a bit sad to me that Obama did not get more of the Romney voters.

I guess religious brainwashing goes a long way to making you unable to hear the lying sack of shit things that seemed to endlessly flow from Romney's very disgusting mouth

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Response to sally5050 (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:02 PM

22. President

 

Obama got only 31 percent of the white vote in North Carolina which was a drop from 35 percent. The drop in North Carolina came from white women. He still won the youth vote though. He won the women's vote overall but it was by a smaller margin. That is why he lost North Carolina. He also only got 39 percent of the white vote nationwide which was a drop from 43 percent. Most of that loss probably came from the South.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:17 PM

9. Back in 04

When Little Boots came tour our town we got 1800+ out to give him a special hello.

While lined along the street where the motorcade was to drive by us there were actually a couple of GOP women and their nasty daughters.

One of the daughters was trying to be especially GOP-ish and was commenting on the crowds. She'd never seen so many losers, look at them! The way they're dressed etc. Really going on this classist rant about all the people around her.

I was standing right behind them and after a few minutes of her spewing I finally leaned forward and said "They're called 'voters' sweetheart". Well! There was a gasp and embarrassed silence for some time to come.

It sickened me to have the mother standing by while this 13-14ish aged daughter said such ugly things.

Julie

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:50 PM

12. WOW!!!! What the hell was wrong with Rmoney's remaining 12%? Come to think of it,

what the hell was wrong with his white 88%?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:00 PM

13. Cool. Now I'm part of the 99% AND the 56%

GIVE ME STUFF!!!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:26 PM

14. Great graphic. Would really like to see one like that with third bar for USA demographics. nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:45 PM

16. STUFF NOT BOMBS!!! STUFF NOT DRONES!!!

I want healthcare and infrastructure jobs for my tax $$, not bombs and drones, god dammit!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:54 PM

17. Now account for gender.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:11 PM

18. CNN charts, includes gender breakout, but

Look at the breakout titled

Vote by Income

People who made <$50 put him in. He was elected because people of varied races, both men and women, stood together and voted him in, regardless of the percentages. One could argue that gender or race is important, but lose nearly any of those, and he would not have won.

On the other hand, there is a distinct break with people whose incomes are >$50K - Them's the opponents

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president#exit-polls

Now we find out what the working class thinks about the policies they asked for...

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Response to jtuck004 (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:21 PM

24. Thank you for that link.

It's shocking to see how polarized people are.

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Response to jtuck004 (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:40 PM

46. it would be helpful if they had been more detailed in the breakouts - in 2008, IIRC,

people in the ~ $150000 category voted for Obama, maybe in higher %s than people just below that bracket. The relationship between income and voting was not linear.

Similarly this year, notice that in the education category, the people with the highest levels of formal education were more likely to vote for Obama than any other category.

Lots of people had different reasons for supporting Obama. That's one of the many reasons why these silly comments from O'Reilly etc., the 47% comment, etc., simply are not supported by the data.

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #46)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:38 PM

52. I haven't the slightest interest in anything bo'reilly says, but I do know that an income

of $50K is just about median income, which gives me a huge pool, and likely full of the very voter my opponent keeps insulting.

High ed is good, but that really begins to narrow the pool. Then again, as an incumbent I don't have to work as hard for those that were predisposed to vote me. Instead I would spend my effort and $$ on the ones I can convince and who need encouragement.

There seemed to be so many mistakes on RobMe and the 'pub's part you can almost point in any direction and find one, but I did notice they relied more on commercials and social media, calls, etc. That's ok if you are upper income, but under the median income I think that strategy begins to get less useful, it would seem.

The Democrats got out the ground game, with obvious results in a lot of places.

But I notice the Tbaggers are starting to put out info in Spanish, some other stuff that indicates that they and the SuperPacs are learning, and, like the Borg, intend to assimilate or destroy anything in the vicinity.

The next election will be really interesting - in many places it might be Tbaggers against Repubs, which bodes well for Demos for at least 3 or 4 more years, I think.

But they are using this as a training exercise and re-adapting, so these fights will do nothing except get worse. Unless we burn up the earth first, maybe.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:16 PM

19. Republicans are stunned that people voted for THEIR OWN interests and

not the interests of billionaires. WHY ARE WE SO SELFISH???

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:24 PM

25. Good one, TwilightGardener.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:30 PM

20. That is gonna cause a lot of dyspepsia

over in Repukeland. That is one UGLY chart if you're on the wrong side of it, and they are.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:14 PM

26. 'Us vs. them' took a big hit with the election

Especially when the 'them' is everyone else.

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:16 PM

27. Obviously it didn't since there

are so many stupid articles of this type!

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #26)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:34 AM

34. Very true given that the "blame our problems on 'them' - minorities, women, foreigners, gays, etc.'

lost to the party that is multiracial, multiethnic and multicultural.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:44 AM

28. But, it was the hurricane's fault. It killed the Mittmentum!

Yet, like Barney Frank was saying the other night on Rachel's program, so how did the hurricane affect voters' decisions out in the Mid-West??
Or out in Montana in the West, where Senator Tester was re-elected?
Or even in Wisconsin, where Tammy Baldwin was elected?

Did the hurricane suddenly remind them that Romney wanted to eliminate all of the safety nets and FEMA, even after he spent the last 16 months making that the hallmark of his campaign?

Or was it the issue of climate change that suddenly made everyone wake up to reality, and realize that Romney wasn't going to do a damned thing about it?

Or was it the economy that made everyone realize that Romney never developed an economic plan to help the economy grow, and yet he said at one point in time, the numbers work, without ever showing anyone the numbers of his invisible plan?

Or was it the stupendous foreign policy blunders when everyone realized that a guy who won't release his federal income tax returns can't really be trusted to run this country?

There are so many other reasons to explain why Romney lost that it's hard to settle for the "hurricane did it" meme.

But, the 47% of American voters that he doesn't need to worry about?
Well, to be blunt, it's actually 100% of American voters that he doesn't need to worry about.

Cuz now, he's irrelevant.

He can't even campaign in 2016 for the next Republican candidate because Romney's endorsement would be the kiss of death for the next GOP candidate.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:10 AM

33. I would say President Obama represents America.

It is clear which bar is more like the American racial demographic, and which bar is like the racist in America graphic.


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Response to aandegoons (Reply #33)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:40 AM

36. Exactly. n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:44 AM

37. I don't trust those Others. They're fence-sitters. They killed Locke.

What the hell is their plan?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:52 AM

38. Karl Rove finds these numbers very suspicious.

In a country where 72% of voters are white, Romney only got 88% of his vote from whites while Obama got 56% of his votes from whites? A little too convenient, Karl says. Or look at Hispanics, who made up 14% of Obama's voters and only 6% of Romneys, averaging out to 10% of the vote... in the very same year that Latinos made up 10% of the entire electorate? Mere coincidence? I don't think so. In every single racial demographic, the average of the vote that went to Romney and to Obama is exactly the same number as total voter participation. That can't be a coincidence... it's practically proof that science, the mainstream media, and the liberal arithmatic establishment are conspiring to deny Republicans the White House.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:20 AM

39. that voter supression stuff turned off people of color to the Repubs for DECADES probably

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:13 AM

40. The only demographic the GOP works to attract are white men. And they only got 75% of them.

They've made their mark my alienating large groups of the American electorate: blacks, Latinos, gays, rational Christians & non-Christians, any kind of immigrant or children of immigrants, and most of all women. A national party can't exist and win elections with support from less than 20% of the population.

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Response to baldguy (Reply #40)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:42 PM

48. actually, per the CNN exit poll results, they got only about 2/3 of them.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:36 AM

41. More that the GOP's race-based party positions are what doomed him in addition to all his

own failings as a candidate, human, etc.

Constantly pissing on different voter blocks isn't a winning strategy as the only one you seem to be chasing becomes less significant over time all the while taking your marching orders from an even tinier percentage of the population namely the rich, the radicals, etc.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:29 AM

42. RUN!!! THE NON-WHITES ARE COMING!!!!!

We can expect a lot more tension to evolve around this issue, as the USA turns from majority white to majority non-white.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:06 AM

43. So....

exactly like his events then?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:57 PM

44. I just got a new truck, I told my right wing neighbor I got it free for voting for Obama.

I told him all Obama voters got free stuff. He was not amused, I thought it was fucking hilarious.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:25 PM

45. The GOP's Southen Strategy is to blame.

When you court racist white vote in the South, you alienate everyone else---including the non racist white vote.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #45)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:42 PM

47. I would really like to see the demographics broken down by region of the country.

I think Southern and possibly plains/mountains whites vote differently, as a group, on average, than do whites in other parts of the country.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:42 PM

49. Dang, Obama didn't do any better with the "others." Each got 2 %.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:02 PM

51. The comments below the article are depressingly full of racist shit.

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