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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:45 AM

David Frum on Morning Joe: Republicans have been exploited and lied to by Right Wing Media

David Frum on Morning Joe: Republicans have been exploited and lied to by Right Wing Media
by SomewhatEsoteric

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc-morning_joe/#49757420

Republicans have been fleeced, exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex...there are too many to name. Because the followers, the donors and the activists are so mistaken about the nature of the problems the country faces...just a simple question, and I went to Tea Party rallies and asked this question, have taxes gone up or down in recent years? They can't answer this question.

He continues, "The people who put the cement shoes on Romney's feet are now blaming him for sinking."


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/09/1159450/-David-Frum-on-Morning-Joe-Republicans-have-been-exploited-and-lied-to-by-Right-Wing-Media

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Reply David Frum on Morning Joe: Republicans have been exploited and lied to by Right Wing Media (Original post)
kpete Nov 2012 OP
tularetom Nov 2012 #1
NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #2
Tutonic Nov 2012 #10
laundry_queen Nov 2012 #13
patricia92243 Nov 2012 #3
Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #4
freshwest Nov 2012 #15
Skidmore Nov 2012 #5
RomneyLies Nov 2012 #6
Frustratedlady Nov 2012 #7
doc03 Nov 2012 #8
GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #9
Arkana Nov 2012 #11
Sheepshank Nov 2012 #12
Berlum Nov 2012 #14
Bandit Nov 2012 #16
CoffeeCat Nov 2012 #17
janx Nov 2012 #18
ieoeja Nov 2012 #19

Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:47 AM

1. Ya THINK?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:48 AM

2. Thanksgiving comes early for the GOP- pull up to the table and eat your own!

Such joy to behold....may it last four more years!

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:22 AM

10. Eat your own bhwaaaaaaaa!

Can I get a pie to go with that?

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:43 AM

13. David Frum has been trying to get the GOP to fix crazy for awhile now.

He may be conservative but he comes from the sane part that is nearly extinct. He was thrown under the bus by the Republicans after the last election, if I recall correctly, for trying to help them not go down crazy lane. Clearly, he was right and they were wrong, but somehow I don't think they will listen to him, still.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:52 AM

3. Hate radio has finally bitten them in the behind. n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:54 AM

4. WOW! The propagandists are being unmasked

Propaganda generally only works if there is a gradual merging of it into the mainstream and that is exists as a realm of possibility.

The realm of possibility exploded when their pollsters were calling for Mittens to have over 300 electoral votes...when there was NO way possible for this to happen. It wasn't even close--and the election was called VERY EARLY in the evening with key states not even being counted. Even the freaking candidate was shellshocked and didn't even have a concession speech ready. Has this EVER happened before??

Imagine our disbelief is Nate Silver had been THAT FAR off.

It was a wake up call but the people in the bubble are going to have to be dragged out, kicking and screaming, and told the truth.

It isn't going to be pretty and what I expect is that there will be a "new fair and balanced" 'news' organization that will take them into a new bubble and lie to them just like the old ones did--in fact, it will probably be the same recycled propagandists.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:06 AM

15. +1. Of course it'll be the same recycled propaganda. Same sponsors, Koch and fossil fuel.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:56 AM

5. Another heaping pile of BS from the Party of Personal Responsibility.

Who created the dynamics that allowed for the rise of Fox and sheltered Murdoch and Ailes and Clear Channel? Who cleared away regulations and allowed them to take over a market? Who stepped foreward with deep pockets to fund these goobers? Who used them for propaganda purposes? Who showed up to bloviate on their waves and construct lies out of whole cloth and allow those lies to stand uncorrected in the public arena. Sorry, David Frum, you don't get off that easily. Head this one off at the pass before it becomes conventional wisdom.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:58 AM

6. Cool, it's now becoming a GOP circular firing squad!

 

Frum is amongst those who propped up and exploited the same conservative media he's now railing against.

LOVE IT!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:00 AM

7. They are just catching on?

Good grief, we figured that out many, many years ago. That's why we call them sheeple...fleeced, to boot.

They only know the terms they are fed at a 24/7 dosage of Muslim, marxist, socialist...Wright, Ayers, Black Panthers...Obamacare, raise taxes, take your guns, on and on ad nauseum. I don't know how they stood it...all that rote learnin'.

How did they not see the talking points being fed to them each day. Same/same, station after station after printed matter. They even had the talking points in the same order. For goodness sake, mix them up a little.

First you dumb them down, then you use them. Done!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:03 AM

8. He figured that out? We knew that years ago n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:05 AM

9. NO! David.

Republicans have been exploited and lied to by the GOP and it's Media.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:37 AM

11. I disagree with Frum.

Romney did plenty to put those cement shoes on his own feet.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:42 AM

12. And yet, even when they did look at the polls that were NOT friendly to them.....

....it was a Limbaugh'ish rant that it's nothing more than a Liberal tactic to demoralize them. The RW'ers are so entrenched in their ways they don't seem to be able to learn and evolve. There will definintely be a handful that will try and drag the group kicking and screaming to the center, but they permitted too much leeway, too much credence, gave the microphone to the Palinesque group...and today that group is still screaming the same tune, "Romney wasn't conservative enough!"

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:47 AM

14. Freeper Buddies - don't let them sucker you anymore

You don't like being suckered by your so-called leaders and Propaganda Pundits.

And we don't like seeing you so badly suckered time and time again.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:11 AM

16. He's saying this to Morning Joe......

One of the biggest LIARS of the bunch, and I suppose he was nodding his head in agreement also.....One thing about Republicans, they do have gall...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:43 AM

17. Fox News and their followers...

...have become cult-like.

Fox News viewers are now downright creepy. There is no difference between Fox news believers and the followers of Jim Jones. They have been hooked into the brainwashing in exactly the same way.

When will these people wake up and realize how bamboozled they've become? Corporate interests determine the talking points. The talking points are filtered through Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and Fox News. It's a disgrace.

At this point, all we can do is try to work around them. Reasoning with them doesn't work. However, these impressionable, duped mutants cannot be allowed to dictate policy for the country any more. It's killing us. It's not entertainment. It's dangerous. Take the issue of global warming. Fox News viewers are lied to and told that it isn't real. Big oil filters the messages and they lap it up like hungry dogs. We simply can't write this off as entertainment any longer. They're destroying the planet and standing in the way of meaningful change.

They're entitled to their opinions, but they sure as hell don't get to destroy the planet and take the rest of us with them.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:10 PM

18. This has been going on for decades.

It's nothing new, as we all know.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:15 PM

19. Spot on.


1. Rightist media lies.

2. Rank and file believe the lies.

3. Vast overwhelming majority of Americans have never even heard of the lies.

4. Republican lawmakers can either run on the lies making them appear insane to most Americans, or ignore the lies and lose their base.


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