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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:12 AM

So President Obama won because there are so many young non-white people?

I was watching the news and thinking to myself, "Yeah, there were lots of young people voting, like me, but I'm white," and then it dawned on me. I'm not young. I'm nowhere NEAR young. But my kids are, and they're white, and they voted.

My husband is a semi-old white man, and he's a lifelong Republican (although he keeps his mouth shut about it around me), and he voted. For Obama.

Stupid pundits should just realize that it isn't so much the demographics of America that brought the win to this side; it's that there aren't as many stupid people as Romney and his minions believed.

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Reply So President Obama won because there are so many young non-white people? (Original post)
Still Blue in PDX Nov 2012 OP
Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #1
mucifer Nov 2012 #2
lalalu Nov 2012 #4
yardwork Nov 2012 #5
mucifer Nov 2012 #8
yardwork Nov 2012 #12
Still Blue in PDX Nov 2012 #18
LiberalLoner Nov 2012 #3
yardwork Nov 2012 #7
efhmc Nov 2012 #15
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #6
laundry_queen Nov 2012 #22
Coyotl Nov 2012 #9
kerouac2 Nov 2012 #10
OnionPatch Nov 2012 #11
Still Blue in PDX Nov 2012 #16
Quantess Nov 2012 #13
efhmc Nov 2012 #14
BelleCarolinaPeridot Nov 2012 #24
blueknight Nov 2012 #17
ecstatic Nov 2012 #19
Jack Rabbit Nov 2012 #25
ecstatic Nov 2012 #30
Quantess Nov 2012 #26
ecstatic Nov 2012 #29
Quantess Nov 2012 #33
coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #20
dawg Nov 2012 #21
HopeHoops Nov 2012 #23
ChoppinBroccoli Nov 2012 #27
Still Blue in PDX Nov 2012 #31
reformist2 Nov 2012 #28
sibelian Nov 2012 #32

Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:15 AM

1. They stayed home, perhaps theyre arent that dumb?

If you get my meaning.

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:15 AM

2. I know. I hate the reasoning that LGBT or African Americans or Jews or Hispanics or whoever

won it for President Obama. No, it was all of us, including older white voters . We ALL worked hard on the campaign. It took all of us together to win. Every vote counts.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:19 AM

4. Well said. It was Americans uniting and fighting back.

 

I am so proud.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:25 AM

5. Every vote counts, but 59% of white people voted for Romney.

Only 41% of all white voters voted for Obama. If it were up to only us white folks, Obama would have lost big. That doesn't mean that our votes for Obama didn't count. As you say, he needed every vote. There's a difference between looking at individual voters and demographic groups. It's no reflection on you and me that 59% of the white vote went to Romney - we represent part of the 41% who voted for Obama.

Don't take the demographic results personally.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:29 AM

8. Actually, as a white Jewish woman, I fall into the "we voted for the President " category

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Response to mucifer (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:56 AM

12. As a lesbian, I do too!

But the point, as you say, is that we DID vote for the president. Older white straight Christian men voted for the president, and their votes were just as important as everybody else's. Every vote counted the same.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:18 AM

18. You're right. We all did it. nt

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:19 AM

3. What worries me is that they are agitating for removal of suffrage for women, minorities, etc. and I

worry especially with the decisions coming before the SC they may win the battle. Anyone else here worried about that?

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Response to LiberalLoner (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:27 AM

7. Not anymore. Obama and the Senate now get to choose new Supreme Court justices if any retire.

If Romney had won, then we would have a big worry about new appointments to the Supreme Court.

We do have to worry about voter suppression and outright vote stealing in red states, though.

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Response to LiberalLoner (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:15 AM

15. Where did you see this information? They think they have the power to

reverse the right to vote for women. Even their loving deluded womenfolks would rise up over that one.

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:26 AM

6. It is another part of the FOX attempt to paint Democrats as "OTHER."

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:35 AM

22. yep

To Fox "OTHER" = "not real Americans".

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:29 AM

9. President Obama won because there are so many educated people

plain and simple

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:31 AM

10. Obama's percent among white voters matched '92 Bill Clinton

In the run-up to Tuesday’s election, there was much talk that President Obama could be headed to a historically poor showing among white voters, a result that could jeopardize his ability to win the overall popular vote.

And, while Obama did lose white voters by 20 points to former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney (the widest losing margin for a Democratic presidential candidate since 1984) he still won a clear popular vote victory — with a majority of his total vote nationwide coming from white voters.

Take a look at this chart — from the wizards in the Post’s polling unit — that shows the percentage of white voters supporting the Democratic candidate all the way back to 1972.



Obama’s 39 percent showing among white voters matched the percentage that Bill Clinton received in 1992 — albeit it in a competitive three-way race — and exceeded the percentage of the white vote earned by Walter Mondale in 1984, Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George McGovern in 1972.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/08/president-obama-and-the-white-vote-no-problem/

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:42 AM

11. Two old, white Obama-voting folks in this household.

And clear across the country from us, my 83 year old, white mother and stepfather helped Obama win Ohio with their two votes.

Still, even if young, non-white people put Obama over the top, is there something wrong with that? Are their votes not just as valid as the rest of ours? Young, old, white, brown and every color and age in between......Americans voted for Obama.

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Response to OnionPatch (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:17 AM

16. Exactly right. nt

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:58 AM

13. Obama won because of women

also. If only men had voted, Romney would be president now.

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:13 AM

14. They still haven't got a clue.

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Response to efhmc (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:05 AM

24. At this point I thought that they will ever find it.

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:17 AM

17. i have 5 young white kids

and they all voted obama, as did most of their young white friends

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:20 AM

19. Amazing, isn't it? They acknowledged that half of what

Romney said was misleading. So why are they surprised that voters caught on as well?

But it's not just that, nobody wanted to face Obama. The repub heavyweights purposely sat this election out because they knew they had zero chance of beating Obama. The only people running on the GOP side were delusional idiots, Romney included.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:12 AM

25. What Republican heavyweights?

The nine ninnies (or "delusional idiots" as you call them) are what passes for Republican heavyweights nowadays. Jeb Bush is just another ninny.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:55 PM

30. good point. nt

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:14 PM

26. I sort of disagree with your idea that so-called-heavyweights "sat out" 2012.

The problem with the GOP candidates wasn't that the reasonable ones sat it out on purpose, it was because they were peer-pressured out. There was too heavy pressure from the teabags, at the time the GOP candidates were getting warmed up. That is based on a lot of articles I have read, anyway.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:54 PM

29. Interesting. thanks nt

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #29)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:32 PM

33. Smiling, always, because Obama won!

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:21 AM

20. Demographics usually don't lie. Whites voted for Romney 60-40, but Latinos

 

(by contrast) voted for Obama 75-25. That latter is an astonishing figure, imho, and one I had to pick my jaw up off the floor from reading. Rape-publi-scum will go the way of the Whigs if that little demographic persists.

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:22 AM

21. I want to agree with you but the numbers just don't bear us out.

The President's percentage of support from white voters was appallingly low, especially in the Southern states. There are, of course, millions of enlightened white voters. But it was other demographic categories that made the difference.

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:03 AM

23. Wife and I are both 49, eldest is 21. We're all white - three PA votes for Obama.

 

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:51 PM

27. I'm A Middle-Aged White Man, And So Are Most Of My Friends

And most of the people I know ALL voted for Obama. My dad is 70 years old and white, and HE voted for Obama. I simply don't know where this whole "91% of white males voted for Rmoney" crap came from. Doesn't seem to square with my reality.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:57 PM

31. That's what I was thinking, too.

Edited because I fear I may have sounded bigoted on my first go-round when I said we know the right people.

I meant SMART, not WHITE.

Almost everyone I know, white, black, Hispanic and Asian voted for Obama, although there are some relatives I won't talk about here.



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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:53 PM

28. Old white voters went for Romney, but young whites went for Obama.


If the Repugs think that white voters are a reliable "base" for the long term, they are tragically mistaken...

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:58 PM

32. Thank you for pointing this out.


I entirely agree.

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