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Mon Jan 16, 2012, 07:32 PM

Health care in this country is a FREAKIN joke.

You know I am just so sickened by the general way people are treated in this country.

Rep Grayson was absolutely right about the comment that Republicans want people to die quickly. BUT it isn't only them it is the corporate outrage of Insurance and Pharma.

I'm waiting for my insurance cards after having to decide to pay $60 each week of my $140 pay to get insurance that is half way decent. --Which I have to worry that my pnuemoia will be considered a preexisiting condition since I developed fungal pnuemoia last year after sugery and nearly died.


I got pnuemoia about a week and 1/2 ago. I went to the emergnecy room because my husband was concerened and since I didn't have my card at the moment the Doctor at the hospital asked if I could pay about $30 dollars for the medication he was going to subscribe. No problem. We are caught up on bills and had the money.


We get to my Phramcy and find out the medication isn't $30 but $60. I was than informed by the tach that Pharama companies nogotiate prices for each Phramacy. So if the Hospital phramacy only pays $30 than the doctor was probably thinking that it is the price for all phramcy.

NOT only that while waiting for the medicine another man -elderly- was getting his medicine filled and EVEN though thedoctor wanted the patient to have a certain amount of medication the insurance company would only let him have half.

Insurance companies are the BIGGEST death panels we have in this country and we should call them death panels.

It makes me sick. My friend living in Canada said I would have been placed in the hospital.

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 07:43 PM

1. Insurance companies should not be able to get away with practicing medicine without licenses.

But, in denying your claim for the full prescription, that is effectively what they are doing.

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Mon Jan 16, 2012, 07:43 PM

2. to say nothing of the

stress they cause people just trying to take care of their health. You have to worry about a pre-existing condition, the discrepancy at the pharmacy (cost), and the conflict between a dr's prescription and what the ins. co will allow.
Stress is serious and the whole system is a giant stress machine - even when a person is allowed to get treatment at all.

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Response to KT2000 (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 07:48 PM

4. Frankly, this country has become a giant stress machine IMO.

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 07:47 PM

3. This country is a ripoff for many things. A cruel injustice is fostered on

the citizens of this country by the sham that capitalism is a god, private enterprise is a god and the free market will make everything well.

We don't have capitalism in the country. We have corporate welfare and a plutocracy.

I have no idea anymore what will make this country heal and back to its former self. Government has been bought and the 99% have little say, but what irks me is many of the 99% seem satisfied with the status quo and enable corporate welfare and the plutocracy, often voting in those that have no F'en interest whatsoever in the country and the 99%.

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:02 PM

5. K&R!

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:39 PM

6. That it is - I always feel bad for my American friends...

But insurance companies are taking over here in Canada too. Most adults, even low income, don't have prescription coverage if they aren't employed (most provinces don't have drug coverage).

With my insurance company, I'm only allowed 1 month at a time of one medication, but 3 months at a time of another one (neither are narcotic/painkiller types, and neither is easy to OD on). Last year they covered 90% of all my prescriptions with a $7 co-pay. This year, they decided, naw, we'll only cover 80%, raise the co-pay to $10 AND we'll raise rates TOO!

Fuck them.

Thankfully I pay next to nothing through my university group coverage for full-time students. When I looked at private rates, they wanted $350 a month for 80% coverage for me and my 4 kids. That's prescription and basic dental only. My province pays for the big stuff, like hospital visits, surgeries, etc. Thankfully, their dad bought them coverage and I have coverage so long as I'm in school or working. For awhile before I was a full time student, I was paying out of pocket for everything. Even WITH coverage I'm paying $30/month on prescriptions for 2 common drugs. The insurance companies have a huge scam going and they have a bought and paid for government doing their bidding.

At least here I get free (at the point of service) basic and emergency care. I can't even fathom how bad it is getting for you all south of the border.

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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:06 AM

8. I think your fellow citizens will put their feet down when it gets too much like the U.S. model

Companies are seeing how far they can push things. Give it time. I think your fellow citzens will tell for profit companies to shove it.

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Response to Justice wanted (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:35 PM

13. There is always the possibility of a non confidence vote in Canada....

... if enough pressure is applied to MP and nothing is done with the administration.

In the US the government as it stands is just another subsidy of big corp.

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:27 AM

7. For-profit health care isn't health care, it's for-profit.

 

People become numbers, life becomes meaningless. It is a death camp mentality perpetuated by anyone who doesn't actively promote universal health care which is what more than 70% of Americans want.

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:13 AM

9. I like my healthcare... but that comes from the VA.

So that might have something to do with it.

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:50 AM

10. your resources haven't been fully harvested if you can still afford to pay...

...so don't "hurry up and die" until you've given 100 percent for your insurance company's executive bonus this year!

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:12 PM

11. +1


Each day, 273 people die due to lack of health care in the U.S.; that's 100,000 deaths per year. This is not only a moral issue, but a national security issue that we're so vulnerable given that our health care delivery system is so fragmented and dysfunctional.

We need single-payer health care, not a welfare bailout for the serial-killer insurance agencies.

We don't need the GingrichCare of mandated, unregulated, for-profit insurance that is still too expensive, only pays parts of medical bills, denies claims, bankrupts and kills people.

Republican '93 plan:
"Subtitle F: Universal Coverage - Requires each citizen or lawful permanent resident to be covered under a qualified health plan or equivalent health care program by January 1, 2005."

"We will never have real reform until people's health stops being treated as a financial opportunity for corporations."

"Employer-based health insurance has always been a bad idea. Your life should not depend on who you work for." -- T. McKeon

"Any proposal that sticks with our current dependence on for-profit private insurers ... will not be sustainable. And the new law will not get us to universal coverage ...." -- T.R. Reid, The Healing of America

"Despite the present hyperbole by its supporters, this latest effort will end up as just another failed reform effort littering the landscape of the last century." --John Geyman, M.D., Hijacked! The Road to Single Payer in the Aftermath of Stolen Health Care Reform

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:13 PM

12. I've never understood why the right wing is so concerned about the government getting between me and

my doctor when it's clearly the insurance companies that are the ones butting in.

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:43 PM

14. That our health insurance is ruled by shameless parasites is an outrage.

I hope people start demanding a single payer option.

If their side can demand that Obamacare is overturned, we should demand a better system.

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Response to Justice wanted (Original post)

Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:37 PM

15. its inhuman, cruel and unusual punishment for innocent people

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