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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:29 PM

Why the Dems will NOT cede the center

Politically speaking, the Republicans were foolish to allow their party to be pushed to the right by a bunch of ideologue crazies as represented by the Tea Baggers. They made efforts to put in policies and laws that are a throwback to the fifties such as the efforts to ban abortion and make contraceptives hard to acquire.

The Republicans moved hard to the right and left an enormous sucking vacuum in the center. It was irresistible in terms of political strategy where the name of the game, much like boxing or MMA, is to control the center of the ring. Now, the Republicans are hopelessly foundering on the rocks. With a shrinking base, they have no future other than to try to reclaim the center as best as they can.

And so, they will try to move to the center, to a sort social issue-free conservative financial center, one with a strong military, a desire to work with the other party, firm family values, tough on crime, liberal gun laws... but they will find that it has been taken. By the Democratic Party. And THEY ain't leaving.

For better or worse, the Democrats have stolen the center, drank the Republicans' milkshake -use whatever metaphor you want. To ideologues and idealists on the left, it is not great news because they will not be budging. But politically speaking, it is a touchdown, grand slam and knockout rolled into one. I do not see how Progressives go forward from here except very, very slowly perhaps. It will take an enormous effort to push for any meaningful change and frankly, it will not come from the top down but only from the bottom up such as in the case of gay marriage and cannabis reform. And maybe that is a good thing. Time will tell.

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Bonobo Nov 2012 OP
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Dystram Nov 2012 #2
Agnosticsherbet Nov 2012 #3
Bonobo Nov 2012 #5
Kaleva Nov 2012 #4
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Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:58 PM

1. Fast moving GD today. Self kicking with a bit of shame. nt

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Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:58 PM

2. I agree completely.

And as a progressive liberal Democrat I'm saddened by it.

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Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:31 PM

3. With Democrats occupying the center more Democrats can be elected...

Yes, many will be centrists, but that opens up areas to elect representatives much father to the left, and it opens up space to create legislation that is a bit more progressive than what would be elected by the right.

Small steps forward are better than running backward.

But to gain real power, it will be necessary to take control of the House, and that will be done mostly by electing centrists.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:45 PM

5. Can you elaborate?

I don't yet see how this "opens up areas to elect representatives much father to the left, and it opens up space to create legislation that is a bit more progressive".

Unless you simply mean "as compared to the right".

I don't really see anything except how this leaves us in a semi-permanent state of "center-ness".

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Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:38 PM

4. Read an article today saying Romney was hemmed in by rich, but very conservative, donars

After an expensive primary and being short of cash, Romney spent the early summer raising money and the people who had the money wanted Romney to take a hard line on immigration and such before they would write the check.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:22 AM

6. That is interesting but not surprising. Mr. Etch a Sketch. nt

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