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LuckyTheDog

(6,837 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:31 PM Nov 2012

This is probably the ONLY time I will recommend you read something on Herman Cain's website


Time for the GOP to rethink abortion politics

By DAN CALABRESE - A new approach to a political battle that can't be won.

There is a lot the Republican Party has to rethink in light of what happened on Tuesday, and I certainly don't want to suggest that social issues alone - or even primarily - are the cause of the GOP's current travails. But you have to start somewhere, and when you can't defeat an incumbent president with the economic record Obama's dragging around, there's no issue that should be exempt from rethinking.

So consider:

In a winnable red state Senate race, Missouri's Todd Akin makes an astoundingly stupid statement about rape and pregnancy. He is toast. In just-as-red Indiana, Senate candidate Richard Mourdock makes a slightly more defensible but still incredibly stupid statement about rape and pregnancy. It ultimately costs him the race, and all the conservative triumphalism over the primary takedown of Richard Lugar turns to gnashing of teeth as the seat flips to the Democrats.

Why did these fiascos occur? They occurred because the standard Republican position on abortion, while admirably principled, becomes almost impossible to defend when a skilled and determined questioner starts drilling down into the details. Ask a pro-life Republican what kind of prison sentence they would recommend for a woman who gets an abortion? Good luck getting a clear and confident answer. Rape and incest? I'm with you when you say that God still loves that baby, but get into the details of how you enforce the law that forces the woman to carry the child to term when she doesn't want to? It's a disastrous debate moment just waiting to happen.

More here: http://www.caintv.com/TimefortheGOPtorethinkabortion-744
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This is probably the ONLY time I will recommend you read something on Herman Cain's website (Original Post) LuckyTheDog Nov 2012 OP
the "disastrous debate" just happened and repubs lost nt msongs Nov 2012 #1
Assumptions made socialindependocrat Nov 2012 #2
That's like a poker player with a 2,3,5,7,9 trying to fix his hand by discarding the 2. reformist2 Nov 2012 #3
time for the gop to rethink abortion? how about time for the gop to come into the 21st century niyad Nov 2012 #4
Pretty much LuckyTheDog Nov 2012 #5
You can tell a lot about a man by his reactions to Akin and Mourdock's statements Tsiyu Nov 2012 #6

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
2. Assumptions made
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:45 PM
Nov 2012

That Akin and Mourdock lost just because they said something stupid.

It could be partly to the fact that their oponent would have won anyway.

Second, it may have been that the statement was about a subject that was
very close to the hearts of a lot of people (both men and women)

or it could be that when a candidate says something that is so totally stupid that it brings into question the sanity and/or gullability of the candidate and their ability to reason and come to logical conclusions becomes suspect tha you have to consider the other candidate..

niyad

(112,424 posts)
4. time for the gop to rethink abortion? how about time for the gop to come into the 21st century
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:35 PM
Nov 2012

when it comes to women, PERIOD?

as that article in the guardian stated "women fought the gop's 2012 war on women, and WOMEN WON"

LuckyTheDog

(6,837 posts)
5. Pretty much
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:08 AM
Nov 2012

The guy who wrote that is an evangelical Christian who writes novels about fighting demons. And even THAT GUY thinks banning abortion is impractical and a political loser for the GOP.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
6. You can tell a lot about a man by his reactions to Akin and Mourdock's statements
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:38 AM
Nov 2012


concerning ladyparts and Gawd's desires.

Decent men - who have normal, healthy relationships with the females in their lives - were as outraged as women by these two cretins' comments.

Last night, on Coast to Coast, that lame Wells and his guest were totally dismissing the issue as unimportant.

Okay, assholes. You hate women, you don't have any girls or women you care about, and you obviously are not ever going to personally be raped and knocked up by your stepdads.

But don't by fucking god tell me, a women and a mother of a daughter, and a sister, and a friend to many women - that the issue of women's reproductive freedom is "unimportant."


In other words, Wells and all the fools like you: FUCK YOU! You are cowards and misogynists who only care about $$$$$$



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