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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:37 PM

I'm sorry but no statehood to Puerto Rico unless we also consider it for Washington DC

Last edited Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:31 PM - Edit history (1)

Just saying.

There are MORE people in DC than in Wyoming. DC pays the same taxes as the rest of the country and still has no representation in DC other than a non-voting representative. What's worse, our US Congress can actually make laws for DC, like when Kay Bailey Hutchison wanted to bring Texas style gun laws to DC.

I would love to add Puerto Rico to our country but only if we also bring Washington DC in as well.

Edit NOte: I know i started this thread awhile back but I wanted to modify the thread to say that we should consider it but the final decision on DC should not hold back PR.

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Reply I'm sorry but no statehood to Puerto Rico unless we also consider it for Washington DC (Original post)
LynneSin Nov 2012 OP
reformist2 Nov 2012 #1
LynneSin Nov 2012 #2
maxsolomon Nov 2012 #7
msongs Nov 2012 #20
calico1 Nov 2012 #24
maxsolomon Nov 2012 #35
Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #26
loli phabay Nov 2012 #29
The Magistrate Nov 2012 #3
tokenlib Nov 2012 #5
Bucky Nov 2012 #42
LaydeeBug Nov 2012 #4
temporary311 Nov 2012 #6
Care Acutely Nov 2012 #8
Taverner Nov 2012 #9
LynneSin Nov 2012 #11
jberryhill Nov 2012 #10
LynneSin Nov 2012 #13
jberryhill Nov 2012 #16
LynneSin Nov 2012 #25
jberryhill Nov 2012 #27
LynneSin Nov 2012 #28
jberryhill Nov 2012 #33
LynneSin Nov 2012 #37
jberryhill Nov 2012 #39
LynneSin Nov 2012 #40
hootinholler Nov 2012 #22
jberryhill Nov 2012 #23
hootinholler Nov 2012 #34
loli phabay Nov 2012 #31
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #12
hootinholler Nov 2012 #18
eqfan592 Nov 2012 #41
Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #14
LynneSin Nov 2012 #15
hootinholler Nov 2012 #17
Tennessee Gal Nov 2012 #19
gollygee Nov 2012 #21
cecilfirefox Nov 2012 #30
Angleae Nov 2012 #38
ellisonz Nov 2012 #32
DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #36

Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:38 PM

1. I'd rather the populated areas be absorbed into Maryland, quite frankly.

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:40 PM

2. I would have no problem with that but DC needs to be a state in some way or form

Actually I would prefer putting it into Virginia since Maryland seems to be a pretty safe Blue state but I would be fine with that too.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:45 PM

7. I'd rather DC were absorbed into Maryland based on geography

Paris & London aren't "outside" the states they are located in. It should just become a city called Washington, Maryland.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:07 PM

20. so you'd be ok with PR being absorbed into Florida? nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #20)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:18 PM

24. PR isn't anywhere near FL

It's closer to Hispanola.

Cuba is a lot closer to FL.

Plus, why FL? Puerto Ricans live all over the U.S. I grew up in NY.

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Response to calico1 (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:34 PM

35. i think hispanola should become 1 country

and that delaware should be that entire peninsula between the chesapeake & delaware bay.

and that california should become 2 states.

and that jaggedy part of maryland should just be virginia.

and that both the florida & oklahoma panhandles should be eliminated.

i think a lot about these things.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:33 PM

26. This proposal has been brought up before a few times

the last time I saw any real discussion of it was probably in the mid-90s, though...

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:41 PM

29. it would be Maryland due to geography and VA wouldnt go for it

 

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:40 PM

3. 52 Would Be easier On the Stars Than 51, Ma'am...

Lord knows we could use the Senators.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:43 PM

5. The 51 star flag didn't look so bad..what's the 52 look like??

Hey it's an economic stimulus for the flag manufacturers.... DC does deserve to get out of its lack of voting representation in congress...

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Response to tokenlib (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:08 PM

42. There's two options. One is to arrange the stars into a giant Obama "O" sunrise icon....

and the other is to have the stars mimic the "shape" of Donald Trump's hair.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:41 PM

4. I thought of that too, thank you for posting. nt

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:45 PM

6. The DC issue needs to be resolved regardless of Puerto Rico.

Im not sure if it's fair to the people of Puerto Rico that they be held hostage as some sort of leverage to force the DC issue. That sort of welcoming present would be sort of bitter, I would think.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:45 PM

8. Neither should be dependent on the other, that would be wrong.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:46 PM

9. If you ask me, I think DC should vote with VA

 

Before you balk, consider the BLUE we would be adding to that state...

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Response to Taverner (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:48 PM

11. Scroll up buddy

I agree.

Another DUer said Maryland but that state is safe blue. I'd rather add DC to Virginia.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:47 PM

10. You do realize that DC statehood requires a Constitutional amendment, yes?


Do you intend to compensate MD and VA for the pieces of those states from which DC was carved out by the Constitution?

Article I section 8 - Congress shall have the power:

....

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings

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Why would you oppose just giving the bigger chunk of it back to Maryland?

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:53 PM

13. As I said to another voter - I would be fine with that

In the end there are 617,996 people in DC who pay taxes like the rest of us do and have to obey the same laws. Yet they have no vote in congress.

The constitution is over 200 years old and although most of it has held up against the test of time, the idea behind DC is a bit outdated and should be modernized. Whether it's by declaring DC a state or splitting DC back into the states it was taken from makes no difference to me. But those people need a voice!

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:01 PM

16. IMHO, we should just move it to Rhode Island

...which should be kicked out for false advertising on the ground that it's not really an island anyway.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:30 PM

25. I say we add it to Delaware - so we'll finally have TWO representatives

Instead of just one

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:36 PM

27. Christine O'Donnell could run more often

That's a win-win right there

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #27)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:39 PM

28. It was nice having an O'Donnell free election this year in Delaware

Although Alex Pires was doing his best to fill that void of batshit crazy candidates.

To be fair I think he was the Democrat who ran against Carper in the primaries then ran again in the general elections. Then the douchebag had the audacity to belittle Carper's Vietnam career and vet status.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #28)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:46 PM

33. I was pulling for Rose Izzo

She was... something.

But it's tough to top a state rep candidate who gets indicted for 132 counts of child sexual abuse after the ballot deadline.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:39 PM

37. BTW ChristinePAC endorsed that pedophile



Rumor has it she's broke. She spent thru that million she had leftover from the campaign along with what little money she got from the book deal.

So my guess is she's going to try again in 2014 because she still thinks she was better qualified than Chris Coons.

Meanwhile Chris Coons is turning out to be one of the better senators in DC.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #37)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:52 PM

39. I did not know that

That's precious.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #39)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:02 PM

40. yep!

http://www.urbanswirl.com/news/politics/3439-gop-candidate-eric-bodenwiser-pedophile.html

Bodenweiser, a businessman who is alleged to have committed the crimes at his family's dairy store business, defeated Sen. Joe Booth (R-Georgetown) in the September primary and had been backed by O'Donnell in the race. The News Journal reports that O'Donnell praised Bodenweiser as a “great man that deserves our support and that we need to send to Dover. Eric has the kind of character that will stand up against corruption, that will do what is right in the face of opposition, in the face of pressure.”

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:10 PM

22. Actually the Va part went back to Va during the civil war.

The current DC footprint is purely from the land that came from Md.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:13 PM

23. Ah, thanks....


But, in any event, the point remains that you end up with one state having jurisdiction over the national capital.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:55 PM

34. Actually I think that if we give DC house votes and allow DC residents to vote for Md Senate races

That might be a good compromise. It would still be autonomous but the people would be represented. I don't think the founders ever considered that there may be a permanent population in the district.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:43 PM

31. yup no part of DC is south of the river

 

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:50 PM

12. DC has EV votes and reps, PR doesn't

Also, I think we need a Constitutional Amendment to make DC a state.

Puerto Rico citizens can be drafted into the military, but have no real representation.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:06 PM

18. DC has no vote in the House. n/t

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:03 PM

41. Nor does PR.

Sorry, but PR statehood needs to come first.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:55 PM

14. I agree with your sentiment, but they should be two separate issues

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:56 PM

15. Fair enough

but it should be discussed.

If DC is discussed and fails you are right - it shouldn't hold back Puerto Rico.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:05 PM

17. Unfortunately DC Statehood requires an amendment

I think DC should be included in Md. elections. Make it a new House district, and vote for Md senators.

But if there is an effort to get the amendment, I will support it. I don't think that P.R. should have to wait for it though.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:06 PM

19. Agreed!! nt

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:07 PM

21. Somebody quick make an awesome looking flag with 52 stars!

The one in the other thread is amazing.

(The election is over so I'm a bit more relaxed and jokey, but I think the folks who live in DC deserve proper representation so I'm with you.)

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:41 PM

30. Pretty sure that needs a constitutional amendment. Peurto Rico does not. nt

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Response to cecilfirefox (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:47 PM

38. No it wouldn't. All they have to do is apply for statehood.

Unfortuanately, congress controls the city government so congress would have to apply to congress for statehood which is currently impossible due to the republican controlled house.

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:43 PM

32. Would never happen because of politics...

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Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:37 PM

36. actually

Northern Virginia has most of it's taxes leeched off into the more Dixie side of the state. I say let DC and NOVA becomes it;'s own sate, ala what West Virgnia did.

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