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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:13 AM

You know what concerns me about the GOP "making a bigger tent"?

The GOP obviously saw the numbers from the election. And you know they see the increasing Latino demographic and how many turned out for this election. I fully expect A LOT of closed door meetings with behavioral specialists invited, maybe a few conservative leaning Latinos and the corrupt bunch that created the obstruction pact to bring the economy to a stand still just to make a one term president out of Obama.

The GOP is going to embrace this demographic but not out of genuine concern or the desire to make their lives better. They see them only as a huge voting block. I can hear them saying, "imagine what we can achieve if we can get that demographic in our tent."

When will we see the Latino version of Fox News? It has to be coming and I truly believe if it hasn't been discussed it will be. If the rethugs can manipulate and trick this demographic as successfully as they have done with their base, their chances of winning elections could be endless.

It would be fine if the GOP would be genuine and truly work to get the Latino vote because they want them to have a good life here, but it won't be genuine. The GOP will view this increasing Latino population as simply a pool of people to tap into to win elections for themselves. They just have to figure out how to manipulate this group successfully

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Reply You know what concerns me about the GOP "making a bigger tent"? (Original post)
meadowlark5 Nov 2012 OP
Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #1
d_r Nov 2012 #2
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #9
Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2012 #3
CoffeeCat Nov 2012 #4
mstinamotorcity2 Nov 2012 #5
democrat_patriot Nov 2012 #7
meadowlark5 Nov 2012 #10
mstinamotorcity2 Nov 2012 #17
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #12
meadowlark5 Nov 2012 #6
bluestate10 Nov 2012 #8
union_maid Nov 2012 #11
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #13
brooklynite Nov 2012 #14
meadowlark5 Nov 2012 #18
SweetieD Nov 2012 #15
gravity Nov 2012 #16
meadowlark5 Nov 2012 #20
ladjf Nov 2012 #19

Response to meadowlark5 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:16 AM

1. The history of the GOP will make that one hell of a hard job. Pete Wilson.

Jan Brewer. Self deportation Mitt. Build a wall, arm the INS...that shit will not be forgotten for generations.

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Response to meadowlark5 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:18 AM

2. if they try to let others in their tent

the ones they have will leave.

They don't vote republican because they want to hang out with hispanic folks.

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Response to d_r (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:37 AM

9. Unfortunately true! nt

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Response to meadowlark5 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:19 AM

3. They're going to look at Latinos like Bain Capital looks at a company's pension fund.

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Response to meadowlark5 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:21 AM

4. The GOP tried to do this at their convention this year...

Republicans had African Americans, Hispanics and women speak at their convention--in a vacuous effort to convince people that they actually had respect for people who weren't white or male.

It didn't work because it was window dressing without any substance whatsoever.

In fact, I was insulted as a woman, that Republicans would think that their anti-women policies and ideas would actually melt away in my mind--simply because they stacked the stage with women.

I can't speak for Hispanics or African Americans, but I imagine they felt the same way.

Will Republicans ever learn? It's not enough to prop up demographics on a stage.

It's your policies. PERIOD.

You want Hispanic votes--then actually have policies that benefit Hispanics. Lobbying for electrified fences and demonizing immigrants is not suddenly ok--just because you have Marco Rubio give a speech.

Republicans just don't get it. I've never seen so much collective stupid in my life. They seem to ignore reality.

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Response to meadowlark5 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:27 AM

5. Please they are WEAK in the Game!!!!!!

First they would have to figure out how to be HONEST!!!!Not a Chance of that happening no time soon!!!!! Listen to them. They are still trying to divide people into who they believe will vote their way. They don't even understand that the Presidents team used models of voters they knew they could engage and turnout. No minority will suddenly believe the Republicans have had a sudden change of heart!!!No they must remain in the Wilderness with no sane leader until they reform their Party as a whole. And they still don't understand its the Republican Party Platform. Their core BELIEFS!!Don't line up most Americans of the Present or the Future.

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Response to mstinamotorcity2 (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:30 AM

7. They're not honest now and are effective with whites, a Latino Fox news could be very damaging.


If it pulls 10% it can change the election...

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Response to democrat_patriot (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:38 AM

10. A Latino version of Fox News would be a very effective tool

Look at the people who watch Fox News. This election they've even convinced people that facts are lies, polls are not factual, math can't be trusted. They have managed to make their viewers believe or disbelieve things I never even thought those people even would.

Rupert Murdoch has shown how much he wants to expand his propaganda machine in other countries and continues to try. Starting a Latino version of it here in the US isn't out of the realm of possibility.

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Response to democrat_patriot (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:52 AM

17. Not going to work!!!!

The reason is they will have to wait until Latino voters can no longer remember what their party has done. If African americans haven''t forgotten, please understand that asians,latinos,and arab americans will keep them to memory also. I have friends of these different cultural backgrounds. They know and understand. They also know the dream act was not just for Latinos. They tell us over and over again about the hispanic population growing. Unless I went to a public school that under performed, I was taught that Texas,Nevada,New Mexico,and parts of California was all Mexico. Or did I read something incorrect about our Country's history?? And wouldn't that make some Latinos 4th or 5th Generationally vested in America???? Doesn't it mean they have always been here?? And now all of a sudden the Republican Party wants to woo them?? They can see the emperor has no clothes!!!!!!

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Response to mstinamotorcity2 (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:42 AM

12. +1 nt

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Response to meadowlark5 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:29 AM

6. Right now they can't convince Latinos that the GOP is their best representatives

But they have 4yrs till the next presidential election to figure out their game plan.

The GOP doesn't want these people in their tent, but they are going to have to somehow tap into that voter base. It's the how that concerns me.

I know the GOP aren't trustworthy for the Latinos now, but how are they going to try and manipulate them into think they are trustworthy. If they are successful, that is a huge demographic of people and growing.

I think the rethugs are going to devise a way to use this to their advantage.

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Response to meadowlark5 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:35 AM

8. Hispanics are too a diverse group. The GOP would do better with Blacks.

Even young Cuban Hispanics are turning to democrats in droves. Blacks are a more monolithic group and was 100% republican at one time in the nation's history. But republicans won't appeal to Hispanics or Blacks because that will mean losing 90% of the party's current base. The republican party has painted itself into a corner and is deservedly fucked.

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Response to meadowlark5 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:41 AM

11. It's going to take a while

If they really try to be inclusive, rather than the window dressing kind of thing, they'll depress the bigot base that they've cultivated for years now. If they abandon the wedge issues, they lose the old, white, straight, scared people that they depend on. I could be totally wrong, but aside from their problems with bread and butter issues for the common person, it seems to me that realignment is going to be a bitch for them.

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Response to union_maid (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:43 AM

13. +1 nt

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Response to meadowlark5 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:43 AM

14. The "Latino version of Fox News"?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:52 AM

18. Is that just a news website?

It's the television version that I think has been are more effective as a manipulation/propaganda tool.

Could you imagine a Latino Fox and Friends or a Latino version of Sean Hannity?

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Response to meadowlark5 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:46 AM

15. I see thinktanks thinking of ways to create a "Western Strategy"

where they pit Latinos against Black (non Latinos).

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Response to meadowlark5 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:51 AM

16. How are the GOP's attempts to manipulate the black vote going?

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Response to gravity (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:22 AM

20. I don't think they've ever tried

Up until lately, whites outnumbered most other demographics in this country. But it's shrinking and fast. And it's the Latinos, not the blacks that are going to overwhelm that disparity in numbers.

Plus the civil rights movement wasn't all that long ago. Blacks have a long history with white bigotry. That's not easily forgotten. Latinos are relatively new to this country and never battled a civil rights movement like that. They might not have that deep distrust of the white money/power machine the black community may have.

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Response to meadowlark5 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:19 AM

19. I am afraid that the rank and file Republicans may have physical differences in their

brain structure that will not allow them to "make a bigger tent". Tolerance, beyond their family and church just doesn't seem to make sense to them.

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