Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:30 AM
LP2K12 (530 posts)
Vegas Employer: Obama Won–So I Fired 22 Employees
Vegas Employer: Obama Won–So I Fired 22 Employees
LAS VEGAS (CBS Las Vegas) — A Las Vegas business owner with 114 employees fired 22 workers today, apparently as a direct result of President Obama’s re-election.
“David” (he asked to remain anonymous for obvious reasons) told Host Kevin Wall on 100.5 KXNT that “elections have consequences” and that “at the end of the day, I need to survive.” “I’ve done my share of educating my employees. I never tell them which way to vote. I believe in the free system we have, I believe in the right to choose who they want to be president, but I did explain as a business owner that I have always put my employees first. I always made sure that when I went without a paycheck that made sure they were paid. And I explained that I always put them first and unfortunately I’m at a point where I’m being forced to have to worry about me and my family now and a business that I built from just me to 114 employees. And I explained to them a month ago that if Obama gets in office that the regulations for Obamacare are gonna hurt our business, and I’m gonna have to make provisions to make sure I have enough money to cover the payroll taxes, the additional health care I’m gonna have to do, and I explained that to them and I said you do what you feel like in your heart you need to do, but I’m just letting you know as a warning this is things I have to think of as a business owner. Source: http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2012/11/07/vegas-employer-obama-won-so-i-fired-22-employees/ Wow, just... wow. No words.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:32 AM
sammytko (2,090 posts)
1. Doubt this is even true
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Anyone can call in to a radio station.
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Response to sammytko (Reply #1)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:34 AM
LP2K12 (530 posts)
3. Oh, I agree...
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However, just to think of something this vile to share with the public is insane.
What's wrong with these people? |
Response to LP2K12 (Reply #3)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:38 AM
sammytko (2,090 posts)
12. Will probably be hearing lots more of these "scary" stories in the next few weeks
Response to sammytko (Reply #12)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:41 AM
LP2K12 (530 posts)
19. I'd like to see a headline...
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that reads...
Business Owner - "Obama won so I hired 22+ people" Just to counteract this crap. |
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:32 AM
Marrah_G (22,427 posts)
2. Mr Anonymous is lying.
Response to Marrah_G (Reply #2)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:36 AM
n2doc (26,101 posts)
7. Yep. Until there is a news story interviewing said employees I agree
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I am sure this would be a story the MSM would jump on if it were real.
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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #2)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:58 AM
closeupready (19,472 posts)
64. +1. Or stupid.
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:35 AM
LynneSin (89,793 posts)
4. That guy is gonna need every penny he can find - Civil Lawsuit
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Response to LynneSin (Reply #4)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:48 AM
ProgressiveProfessor (22,144 posts)
36. On what basis? If they are at will employees, he could have just as soon fired them if
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Romney won.
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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #36)
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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #36)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:27 AM
onenote (22,013 posts)
59. +1 and see reply #58
Response to onenote (Reply #59)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:15 PM
newspeak (4,847 posts)
86. that's right
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when you have a "right to work" state, no union representation; the mastah can fire you at will. but, i live in the vegas area, if you find out who this heartless jerk with daddy (i know best) syndrome is, just let me know.
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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #36)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:20 PM
Blue_Tires (31,731 posts)
70. It doesn't matter, because this "story" is fantasy fearmongering bullshit
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I'm betting this clown has no business and barely makes above minimum wage at 7-11 or something...
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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #70)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:53 PM
ProgressiveProfessor (22,144 posts)
78. Would not surprise me in the least
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:35 AM
gollygee (12,325 posts)
5. Like he'd ever have 22 people he didn't actually need to run his business on the payroll
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Does he hire that many non-essential people he can easily just let go just to be nice?
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Response to gollygee (Reply #5)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:37 AM
sammytko (2,090 posts)
10. I know. Makes no sense at all
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22 people! How much was that costing him to have them hanging around?
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Response to gollygee (Reply #5)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:41 AM
seabeyond (85,892 posts)
17. that is what i am thinking. businesses are already so stream lined. an employee doing more than
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just one position as it is.
if he fired 22 that would be because of waste.... unneeded employment. |
Response to gollygee (Reply #5)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:01 AM
PA Democrat (10,988 posts)
40. He would be a lousy businessman if that were the case, wouldn't he?
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I think the guy is lying.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:35 AM
Blue Owl (8,511 posts)
6. I suspect Mr. X's business is located at the base of Bullshit Mountain.
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n/t
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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #6)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:56 AM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
49. Hah! DUZY! - n/t
Response to Blue Owl (Reply #6)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:02 PM
LadyHawkAZ (3,897 posts)
81. He runs the ticket booth. n/t
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:36 AM
BeyondGeography (21,309 posts)
8. Angry, gunna hurt some people
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:37 AM
CreekDog (37,144 posts)
9. people are going to figure out who did it
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22 people fired on the same day?
i bet they figure out who did it in another day. bet on it. |
Response to CreekDog (Reply #9)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:19 PM
RomneyLies (3,333 posts)
88. They'll NEVER find out who did it.
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It is quite impossible to find out who did something that never happened.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:39 AM
Sadiedog (352 posts)
13. I shouldn`t have read the comments section!
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Man turned my stomach.
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Response to Sadiedog (Reply #13)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:43 AM
LP2K12 (530 posts)
20. I didn't...
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read the comments. Now I'm afrad to go look at them.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:39 AM
Blecht (2,356 posts)
14. This local CBS "news" outlet needs to fix their headline
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Some anonymous guy: Obama Won–So I Fired 22 Employees
It's another example of catapulting the propaganda, and I'm sad to say it's not surprising. |
Response to Blecht (Reply #14)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:47 PM
apples and oranges (1,083 posts)
100. They should be more responsible
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and not report random blogs and/or emails as news.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:39 AM
Walk away (4,594 posts)
15. That should be a lesson to everyone who works for someone else....
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Your employer can dump you anytime they want. Unless you are union you are one minute away from your last paycheck if your boss decides it is so.
Without Obama Care you and your family are shit out of luck. I think he just illustrated why the ACA is so important. |
Response to Walk away (Reply #15)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:55 AM
littlewolf (1,583 posts)
25. even if your in a union - if you live in a right to work state
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it doesn't matter, you can be fired and nothing can be done.
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Response to littlewolf (Reply #25)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:12 AM
OrwellwasRight (2,909 posts)
30. But 22 is a large number. Does it qualify for the WARN Act notifications? n/t
Response to OrwellwasRight (Reply #30)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:17 AM
tammywammy (18,437 posts)
33. No, he wasn't laying off 50+ employees. n/t
Response to littlewolf (Reply #25)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:58 AM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
50. Not if you're covered by a Collective Bargaining Agreement (aka 'Contract'). Those
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supercede any 'at will' rights of non-unionized workplaces, irrespective of whether state is right to work or not.
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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #50)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:10 AM
SickOfTheOnePct (1,796 posts)
55. I was just wondering about this
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How does this work with a union? Assume this same situation, i.e., employer says hey, with the new health care law, I can't afford to pay the taxes, pay the bills and pay the employees, I have to let 22 employees go.
Can a union stop an employer from letting people go for economic reasons? If so, on what basis, i.e., does the employer have to show the union the books, etc? Looks like another good reason to unionize small workplaces. |
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:40 AM
onethatcares (6,637 posts)
16. that just doesn't make sense, at all
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I call bullshit.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:44 AM
beachbumbob (93 posts)
21. most of obamacare not even underway yet
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so this is pure BS
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:44 AM
JHB (17,806 posts)
22. An enterprising reporter would look up the local businesses with ~114 employees...
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...and check into any recent layoffs.
Exposing this guy - if he's not a figment of some blowhard's wishful thinking - would be a public service. I'd hesitate to do business with someone so ideologically blinkered that he would lay off 20% of his workforce based on what he imagines will happen. |
Response to JHB (Reply #22)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:13 AM
OrwellwasRight (2,909 posts)
31. I donn't think there are any enterprising reporters anymore.
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They mostly just plagiarize off of press releases and call it a day.
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Response to OrwellwasRight (Reply #31)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:00 AM
OriginalGeek (5,485 posts)
52. Hey now
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sometimes they supplement their stories with Twitter feeds.
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Response to OriginalGeek (Reply #52)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:17 PM
OrwellwasRight (2,909 posts)
94. i stand corrected
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LOL!
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:45 AM
Uben (6,773 posts)
23. I can't assume he is lying, or telling the truth, but.....
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....when you own a business, you do what you gotta do to survive. My guess is, if indeed he is telling the truth, is that he was in trouble financially before the election, and most likely was planning to fire these workers either way. That's business. In a lot of sectors, it ebbs and flows, and seasonal adjustments are necessary.
That said, to come right out and state that the reason he was firing these workers was solely because of Obama Care, was probably more opportunistic blather rather than fact, which does say a lot for this persons character. |
Response to Uben (Reply #23)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:10 AM
nolabels (11,118 posts)
29. If it could or ever was true, F the employer, the employees make the bussiness mostly anyway
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The employees would be better off if it was true on any level. If your game-fully employed, the last place an employer looks at cutting costs is laying off any employee. The employee is what makes the business money. If your working for employer who gives you employment as a favor then your in wrong career and or job at any rate.
Next thing the freaking stupid news will telling us about is how they have this new invention where the cart goes in front of the horse. Just more effing B.S. News |
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:48 AM
exboyfil (3,396 posts)
24. No law has changed from yesterday to today
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His entire premise is garbage. He is right that the marginal cost per employee pay go up in the future (http://www.khi.org/news/2012/oct/08/new-report-aca-will-benefit-not-burden-most-employ/), but it didn't today so his current profitability has not changed. Faced with increased cost of employees in the future, he may elect to increase his prices, reduce his own profit, or a combination of both. If he increases his prices, he may see a lower demand and thus need to reduce his workforce.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:57 AM
arthritisR_US (3,509 posts)
26. And just how much money did he flush down the
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toilet on his candidate?
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Response to arthritisR_US (Reply #26)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:58 AM
LP2K12 (530 posts)
27. Probably...
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his whole nest egg.
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Response to LP2K12 (Reply #27)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:50 PM
arthritisR_US (3,509 posts)
77. So now he destroys the nest egg of others for his stupidity
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:09 AM
BootinUp (25,611 posts)
28. Maybe he needs to stop being such an asshole?
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It might be a better business strategy.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:14 AM
Whovian (2,866 posts)
32. Right. The guy has a "thriving business" and cans appx 20% of his employees after an election
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of the same guy that has been Pres for the last four years. Why do I smell bullshit? I just stepped in it by listening to him at the link.
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Response to Whovian (Reply #32)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:06 AM
OrwellwasRight (2,909 posts)
41. And his employees mean everything to him.
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That's why he lays off nearly 20% of his workforce to prove a political point. Such actions occur all the time at thriving businesses. It's that kind of decision-making that makes the American businessman the leading job creation force in the world.
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Response to Whovian (Reply #32)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:44 PM
ProfessorGAC (23,894 posts)
98. What Were Those 20 People Doing?
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Last edited Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:45 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) He was overstaffed by 18% and was thriving? And, as you said, he was thriving despite being overstaffed while Obama was in office for 4 years.
This one is too full of holes to be believed. GAC |
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:19 AM
treestar (40,485 posts)
35. Bull shit
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There is no way the election of the Presidency means that businesses bottom lines changed overnight.
My take is he needed to do that anyway and waited until after the election to make a grandstanding political statement. |
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:54 AM
Waiting For Everyman (6,371 posts)
37. He likely got extra business from the Repub election contracting
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and would've laid people off after the election was done anyway.
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Response to mmonk (Reply #39)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:09 AM
ProgressiveProfessor (22,144 posts)
43. On what basis if they were at will employees?
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While as others have pointed out, it may not even be real, but if they were at will employees, they could just as well have been fired if Romney won
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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #43)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:23 AM
mmonk (47,307 posts)
46. A public declaration that their firing was politically based.
Response to mmonk (Reply #46)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:16 AM
SickOfTheOnePct (1,796 posts)
57. I'm not aware of any laws that prohibit firing someone for their political beliefs n/t
Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #57)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:23 PM
mmonk (47,307 posts)
72. Wrongful termination?
Response to mmonk (Reply #72)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:30 PM
SickOfTheOnePct (1,796 posts)
74. Won't float
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Employees have to prove it was wrongful, i.e., violated some part of a contract, which they probably didn't have.
If an employer says that they have to cut back the number of employees as a business decision, they are free to do that. |
Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #74)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:20 PM
mmonk (47,307 posts)
95. Back to the public declaration why.
Response to mmonk (Reply #95)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:38 PM
SickOfTheOnePct (1,796 posts)
96. Yes, and it's not illegal to do so
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His public reason why was because since Obama won, he needed to cut expenses now in order to be prepared for higher expenses later.
And you're claiming that's illegal? |
Response to mmonk (Reply #46)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:26 AM
onenote (22,013 posts)
58. I don't see any such thing
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He doesn't know how the employees he fired (if you believe the story, which I don't) voted. And his explanation for the firings was not that they were politically based, but were based on his belief that health care reform will adversely impact his bottom line and that, given the results of the election, that isn't going to change.
As I indicated, I think this is made up BS and even if its not, the guy would be firing these people anyway because healthcare reform wasn't going to be repealed by a romney administration as long as there were enough votes to filibuster repeal efforts in the Senate. But a lawsuit? No chance. |
Response to mmonk (Reply #46)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:55 PM
ProgressiveProfessor (22,144 posts)
79. That's still would not be illegal or a civil tort
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If they were at will employees
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:08 AM
Chiyo-chichi (2,202 posts)
42. If there is any truth to this,
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let one or more of the 22 former employees come forward so that the people of Nevada (a state carried by President Barack Obama, by the way) can decide whether they wish to boycott his business.
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Response to Chiyo-chichi (Reply #42)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:09 AM
ProgressiveProfessor (22,144 posts)
45. Good thought
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:09 AM
txdemsftw (447 posts)
44. What a POS.
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I really feel for those people having to work for such a vile POS.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:49 AM
agentS (1,204 posts)
47. What sort of business is this guy running?
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22 workers out of 114 is a LOT. I doubt he fired 22 janitors- unless he runs an outsourcing firm like Manpower or Labor Ready.
Out of 114 workers there's bound to be a few mission critical employees. |
Response to agentS (Reply #47)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:27 PM
JHB (17,806 posts)
91. Republican political consultant?
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I'm sure they've just entered their off-season.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:55 AM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
48. Oh, for Chrissakes, it's CBS. (They predicted race as too close to call the day before
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Last edited Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:01 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) the election.)
David prefers to remain aanonymous "for obvious reasons"???? What might those be??? I call total and utter BS on the entire story as written, other than that someone called a talk radio program. 'David' doesn't exist except perhaps in the fevered imagination of some right-wing douchebag. I could call my local talk radio and claim to be the Cat God Bastet (from ancient Egypt). Wouldn't make it true. |
Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #48)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:02 PM
Blue_Tires (31,731 posts)
82. Yeah, I'm very surprised the local news ran it with zero confirmation...
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But this is the "new normal" in American journalism now...
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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #82)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:33 PM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
92. If I were re-writing their story, it would read like something like this:
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"A caller to Talk Radio Blah-Blah who claimed to be a small business owner said he had fired 22 of his 114-member staff because of Obama's re-election. The caller's claims could not be verified because the caller insisted upon remaining anonymous."
If I had re-written the story as that, my editors would have left it on the cutting room floor as a non-story! |
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:00 AM
Initech (38,883 posts)
51. What an asshole!!!!
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:05 AM
libertypirate (2,676 posts)
53. This guy for political reasons just choose to make less money, Reall?
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I am not buying the hype. Oh it's anonymous, bullshit!
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:05 AM
NoGOPZone (2,646 posts)
54. He's lying, unless he runs a paid Internet troll service
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and doesn't need the workers because the election is over.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:13 AM
lumberjack_jeff (24,541 posts)
56. The "obvious reason" he's anonymous is because he's lying.
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Business owners only carry the employees they need to service their customers.
If he fired 25% of his workforce, he also fired 25% of his customers. |
Response to lumberjack_jeff (Reply #56)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:07 PM
Canuckistanian (42,197 posts)
67. Exactly
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Nothing Obama does is going to affect his bottom line so badly that he has to fire people to survive.
If this is true, his ability to do MORE business has just been curtailed. And the employees he has left are going to be overburdened and may burn out. This guy (again, if it's true) is a shitty businessman. |
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:29 AM
aquart (67,535 posts)
60. Generic business so poorly staffed that 22 people make no difference?
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Suree.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:41 AM
TRJuan (27 posts)
61. Needs his business confiscated
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Since he can't run it properly and uses it to punish his employees, he shouldn't be allowed to own it. The State or City needs to confiscate under eminent domain and give it to someone responsible who will show more concern for the community.
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Response to TRJuan (Reply #61)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:04 PM
SickOfTheOnePct (1,796 posts)
66. sorry, but that's just ridiculous n/t
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:51 AM
PowerToThePeople (1,447 posts)
62. If it is true
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I hope those 22 people have a blanket party on said employer.
Fuck him. |
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:00 PM
Kablooie (8,856 posts)
65. There were reports of this from other states on Freerepublic.
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None of them had enough information to research at all so it's all just bullshit to try and scare Obama supporters.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:16 PM
amborin (11,717 posts)
68. if David exists, ID his biz, and boycott it......eom
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:16 PM
HooptieWagon (6,336 posts)
69. Probably not room for all 114 employees
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In his mother's basement.
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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #69)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:23 PM
Blue_Tires (31,731 posts)
71. His "employees" were probably all on SimCity or one of those games
Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #71)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:03 PM
HooptieWagon (6,336 posts)
83. Or sock-puppets he trolls internet with. nt
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:25 PM
jwirr (20,912 posts)
73. If true that makes the owner to blame for the harm to the economy - not President Obama.
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:39 PM
Go Vols (1,143 posts)
75. Tells me a lot
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The station’s roster includes nationally respected journalists and legendary broadcasters. With names like Joe Gillespie, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Kevin Wall, Dave Ramsey, Mark Levin and George Noory, Las Vegans describe KXNT’s family of broadcasters as “friends you can depend on.” KXNT is the home to an experienced group of broadcasters who represent the diverse interests and needs of their audience.
KXNT’s pledge is simple…to be the dominant information and entertainment source for the Las Vegas and greater southern Nevada region! KXNT is committed to news. KXNT is committed to providing traffic and weather information. KXNT is committed to educating, informing and entertaining Las Vegans. |
Response to Go Vols (Reply #75)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:51 PM
alp227 (20,462 posts)
102. Gillespie is the morning news host; Wall the afternoon drive time talk show host.
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Gillespie hosts the Las Vegas' Morning News show that's right before Rush. Here's his interview with Sen. Harry Reid from Dec. 2010.
Wall of course is the typical run-of-the-mill local radio right winger, but he has interviewed liberals, such as Stephen Biel of MoveOn.org concerning Harry Reid's call for Romney to release more tax returns. Obama campaign press sec Ben LaBolt has also appeared on Wall's show. |
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:45 PM
RogueRose (1 post)
76. This is the way I see it...........
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Yes - so it's all Obama's fault. (sarcasm)
It's like if your husband cheats on you, it's not HIS fault, it's the other woman's fault. But people fail to see that the transgressor is the one that directly transgressed, not the one that is indirectly. |
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:57 PM
Matariki (15,019 posts)
80. " I always made sure that when I went without a paycheck that made sure they were paid"
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Because you are legally OBLIGATED to pay your employees for their work, dumbass. So quit pretending that they are paid only out of your incredible largess and generosity.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:05 PM
City of Mills (2,880 posts)
84. I smell BS - name your business chickenshit, lets see you survive without dem $$$
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But i'm sure you already let all the customers know your decision, too.
Doesn't matter though, I'm sure 1 or more of these 22 "very much real" employees will come forward to name the business, shortly... |
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:08 PM
librechik (25,007 posts)
85. Job Cremators--that's what they actually are! The veil has been lifted on another GOPBig Lie
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:17 PM
RomneyLies (3,333 posts)
87. He's a liar.
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No different from an internet tough guy.
He's probably a minimum wage employee who votes against his own self interests. |
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:26 PM
Liberal_in_LA (28,675 posts)
89. he was on rightwing radio this morning.
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:26 PM
Care Acutely (1,370 posts)
90. Translation: I am a shitty businessman who's failed and is now scapegoating
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the black guy.
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:04 PM
arcane1 (19,974 posts)
93. Well, if an anonymous radio caller said it, who am I to question it?
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:44 PM
Spock_is_Skeptical (1,488 posts)
97. What an ass
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Just trying to take out his petty revenge on his employees, and make it seem like he's "proving a point."
Perhaps he found out that some of his employees might have voted for Obama? Seems likely, given this guy's level of nastiness. I'd hate to work for that scumbag. At least these peeps can get unemployment and look for a better employer. It really shines a light on the idiotic mindset of these people, doesn't it?! Just sad. |
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:46 PM
apples and oranges (1,083 posts)
99. Immediate boycott?
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I think so! If this is even true...
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Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:48 PM
yourout (6,143 posts)
101. Sounds like BS to me. I just hired one and will likely be adding another in the next month.
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:41 PM
LP2K12 (530 posts)
103. Looks like another one is making excuses...
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:44 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) This shouldn't be legal.
Source: http://www.ksl.com/?sid=22890041&nid=148&title=utah-company-blames-president-obama-for-102-workers-laid-off&s_cid=featured-4 Source II: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/after-obama-re-election-ceo-reads-prayer-to-staff-announces-layoffs/2012/11/09/e9bca204-2a63-11e2-bab2-eda299503684_story.html Utah company blames Pres. Obama for 102 workers laid off EAST CARBON, Carbon County — A Utah coal company owned by a vocal critic of President Barack Obama has laid off 102 miners.
The layoffs at the West Ridge Mine are effective immediately, according to UtahAmerican Energy Inc., a subsidiary of Murray Energy Corp. They were announced in a short statement made public Thursday, two days after Obama won re-election. The layoffs are necessary because of the president's "war on coal," the statement said. The slogan is one used frequently during the election by Murray Energy CEO Robert Murray, who was an ardent supporter of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney. In its statement, UtahAmerican Energy blames the Obama administration for instituting policies that will close down "204 American coal-fired power plants by 2014" and for drastically reducing the market for coal. |
Response to LP2K12 (Reply #103)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:51 AM
Wernothelpless (242 posts)
104. It isn't legal ...
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An employer can lay people off is it's normally the time of year when that business would have layoffs, (as in construction or farming payrolls during the winter months) but to specifically STATE that he's laying them off because of politics? ... He may not think he must answer for this but EDD, workers comp, and his liability insurance companies may have lawsuits to defend which my cause him to be UN-insurable ... All business people must answer to their insurance companies and if even one of these businesses has a class action lawsuit (and some smart lawyer will get these employees all together and file one) it will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend the lawsuit no matter who wins ... even if they all settle for ZERO in the end ...
He is going to have to prove his statement "drastically reducing the market for coal" ... he has contracts to fill ... did those contracts disappear suddenly the day after the election or was it just his employees that we forced to leave? ... This is just the beginning of this one ... |
Response to LP2K12 (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:59 AM
salin (45,822 posts)
105. I can't imagine that this would be a *good* business decision.
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Lower your workforce by about 20% and try to maintain the same level of business?
If true, unless there are other business factors at play (ala a branch of the business that was losing money and is thus being shut down regardless of the election), then this is a foolish businessman. |
Response to salin (Reply #105)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:12 PM
Wernothelpless (242 posts)
106. It's the winter months ...
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This is normally when Vegas would be giving away rooms really cheaply, there's nobody by the pool cause they are closed, as are the golf courses ... After NFR, National Final Rodeo, in Dec. Vegas is quiet for a couple months until it warms up in February again ...
He was looking for an excuse for something that happens in that town every year when the weather makes the desert less fun for outdoor sports ... he should have just shut up, but he sat himself on fire and now he'll pay and pay and pay ... |

