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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:20 AM

"Rove has a lot of explaining to do …The billionaire donors I hear are livid"

"The billionaire donors I hear are livid," one Republican operative told The Huffington Post. "There is some holy hell to pay. Karl Rove has a lot of explaining to do … I don't know how you tell your donors that we spent $390 million and got nothing."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/republican-reckoning-defeat_n_2090510.html

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/07/1158653/-Popcorn-Time-The-billionaire-donors-are-livid




Quote of the Day

"Rove spends more for Republican candidates than the NRSC and the NRCC. He's running things. Rove is definitely a problem."


-- GOP strategist Rick Tyler, quoted by BuzzFeed, on the power of Karl Rove in the Republican party.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rebeccaberg/republicans-prepare-for-party-soul-searching-after

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Reply "Rove has a lot of explaining to do …The billionaire donors I hear are livid" (Original post)
kpete Nov 2012 OP
dembotoz Nov 2012 #1
csziggy Nov 2012 #25
lalalu Nov 2012 #2
Xipe Totec Nov 2012 #3
City Lights Nov 2012 #4
Champion Jack Nov 2012 #5
Ganja Ninja Nov 2012 #6
aquart Nov 2012 #27
gollygee Nov 2012 #7
Grateful for Hope Nov 2012 #11
Hydra Nov 2012 #22
calico1 Nov 2012 #8
Buns_of_Fire Nov 2012 #17
Blue Owl Nov 2012 #9
Grateful for Hope Nov 2012 #10
tanyev Nov 2012 #12
cleduc Nov 2012 #13
Doctor_J Nov 2012 #14
PrMaine Nov 2012 #15
Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #16
Javaman Nov 2012 #18
TalkingDog Nov 2012 #19
OnionPatch Nov 2012 #20
Doctor_J Nov 2012 #21
ananda Nov 2012 #23
backscatter712 Nov 2012 #24
PD Turk Nov 2012 #26

Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:26 AM

1. there is a sucker born every minute

pt barnum would be proud of rove

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:15 AM

25. Barnum never said that

It was a competitor, David Hannum, who said it. The story behind the quote is very appropos, though. A man named Hull had created the Cardiff Giant, a hoax, and sold it to Hannum. Barnum tried to buy it since it was a money making attraction but Hannum turned him down.

Barnum had his own fake giant carved, claimed that Hull had sold Barnum the 'real' giant, and publicized that Hannum's Cardiff giant was a fake. Hannum uttered his famous but inaccurately attributed quote then Hannum sued Barnum. Hull testified the original Cardiff giant was a fake, so Hannum lost the suit.

Both Hannum and Barnum lost in the end since no one wanted to pay to see a fake giant.

A more detailed narration is at: http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:26 AM

2. Thanks !

 

This is great news. Maybe they will rip him to shreds publicly.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:28 AM

3. We've found a way to make trickle down actually work! nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:30 AM

4. LOL!

I'm wearing an ear-to-ear grin!

Keep flushing your money, billionaires!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:30 AM

5. Better watch your back Karl...

It would be a real shame if anything bad happened to you...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:31 AM

6. I wonder just how mad are they?

Mad enough to have turd blossom suicided?

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Response to Ganja Ninja (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:51 AM

27. Or they could just not take his calls.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:32 AM

7. They know how American elections work

You can't buy them. Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose. If they thought they were guaranteed a victory if they paid enough money, then they are confused about how the system works.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:50 AM

11. I wouldn't doubt that Rove promised to deliver Ohio and possibly Florida

like he did for Bush in 2000 and 2004.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:23 AM

22. That's my take on it

If the Repubs expected a big win now, it's because they got overconfident with the 2010 results. The memory of Bush is too strong, and the Tea Party rebranding, while it DID work for some things, gets Democrats out voting because we all think they're going to blow our country up.

If Rove promised them something big, that's his own fault. My guess is that they were laying the groundwork for 2016, and from the popular vote standpoint they managed it.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:34 AM

8. I see a dead horse's head in his bed. n/t

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Response to calico1 (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:18 AM

17. "Karl, you broke my heart." *kiss* nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:47 AM

9. The turds have come home to roost

n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:48 AM

10. Good article.

Thanks for posting this.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:58 AM

12. Ham steak, anyone?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:59 AM

13. I responded to this on Huff post. This is an expansion of what I said:

When Dr. Wang, Nate Silver and Drew Linzer can all predict with such high accuracy where the race stood, Karl Rove et al have some explaining to do to their billionaires who tried to buy the White House.

Those of us who follow the polling closely know a number of GOP biased pollsters had their finger on the scale to keep the perception of a close race alive to help attract donations and give the media something to cling to that would help their ratings: a tight race and as a result, help hide the true perception of their flailing, dishonest campaign. It is all about power and money for a number of these pollsters: Rasmussen, Gravis & others. And it's important to be aware of the others because only one poll by a particular pollster is counted in typical poll of polls -so you usually need more than one pollster to really sway that number. And that's what they did. They did it in 2008 to a lesser degree.

Silver, Wang & Linzer filter out the bias and that's a key component of how they arrive at an accurate result. There's little doubt Rove knew - he's been around in this game a long, long time.

Rove and the Romney camp knew but they also knew that if the billionaires found out, like the public, the money coming into their campaign bank accounts from the billionaires would dry up too or be spent elsewhere. No one wants to make a bad bet.

The Romney campaign was one big lie after another. It was by far the most dishonest campaign of my lifetime. So it's poetic justice that the billionaires who knowingly backed this lie of a campaign got lied to as well and ripped off for hundreds of millions of dollars.

But before taking too much satisfaction in that outcome, I think US democracy dodged a bullet this time. This race was far closer than it should ever have been because of the influence of these wealthy few on the media, the polling, voter suppression and the campaign dollars. And some Democrats down the ticket lost to this overwhelming money - so it didn't entirely go to waste. This administration of the next four years may be a last chance in the near future to wipe this garbage out of US elections. So by all means take a moment to enjoy the results of your hard work. You sincerely deserve it and you've made me proud. But please don't relax for long. Stay on this issue and the voter suppression/fair election issues relentlessly until they have been eradicated - because all Americans and the example you set for the world as a great democracy deserve that.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:09 AM

14. The billionaires should be thankful

that guillotines are no longer readily available.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:10 AM

15. He will probably get off easy

They might just bust his kneecaps.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:12 AM

16. as well as transportation providers, hotels, restaurants !!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:21 AM

18. rover got caught in his grift.

that sort of thing never has a pretty ending.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:42 AM

19. Hey... they actually created some jobs. Ha!

n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:59 AM

20. Lol! They should have just agreed to pay their share of taxes.

It probably would have saved them some money. Now they're going to have to pay them anyway. Serves them right, greedy bastards.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:16 AM

21. On a related topic, one thing the Dems should do

is beat the "Rove, Limpballs, Beck" drum over and over. Make sure that every single Repuke is identified with these three anti-American psychopaths.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:26 AM

23. When your party is so full of fringe righties without moderates..

.. well, all the money in the world ain't gonna help.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:06 AM

24. The Koch-whores are getting pimp-slapped!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:45 AM

26. Sucks to be them

I donated what little money I had knowing I was taking a chance that my candidate might not win and knew there was no guarantee he would. As far as I'm concerned the billionaires did the same thing as I did only with a lot more money. Fuck them, they don't deserve any special treatment.

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