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Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:21 PM

Over 600,000 votes in Az have NOT yet been counted! Please HELP this story go viral so it will

catch Rachel, Ed, etc attention.

The story broke this morning and the estimate was 40,000. It's now being predicted that it's up to 600,000+
http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/free/20121107provisional-ballot-woes-swamp-county.html

These are EARLY and Provisional ballots. MY ballot is probably in there

There are groups organizing to fight this.

If you are in Arizona, Please sign!!!! (I will cross post in Az group)
http://www.promiseazaction.org/fair_election_system?splash=1

If you are not in Arizona, please please please get the word out... remember, our SoS is a birther, who tried to keep Obama off the ballot until the story went viral and he walked it back. Arizona NEEDS to be put into the spotlight right now!

I could not figure out some of the results last nite!! Now I understand

On Edit - one of the areas that had lots of problems last nite was in Tempe - one of the few blue areas in Maricopa county - they ran out of ballots!!

SECOND edit - here's the phone number, if anyone wants to call 602-506-3535

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Reply Over 600,000 votes in Az have NOT yet been counted! Please HELP this story go viral so it will (Original post)
jillan Nov 2012 OP
Firebrand Gary Nov 2012 #1
questionseverything Nov 2012 #108
jillan Nov 2012 #122
cally Nov 2012 #2
Sedona Nov 2012 #3
DonRedwood Nov 2012 #4
jillan Nov 2012 #16
BlueMTexpat Nov 2012 #96
vaberella Nov 2012 #5
Tippy Nov 2012 #6
NYC_SKP Nov 2012 #7
DURHAM D Nov 2012 #8
jillan Nov 2012 #17
DallasNE Nov 2012 #90
sweetloukillbot Nov 2012 #120
PatSeg Nov 2012 #9
DonRedwood Nov 2012 #10
nc4bo Nov 2012 #11
Jack Sprat Nov 2012 #12
libertypirate Nov 2012 #13
RedCloud Nov 2012 #95
AmBlue Nov 2012 #14
Cha Nov 2012 #15
jillan Nov 2012 #21
marions ghost Nov 2012 #18
southern_belle Nov 2012 #19
Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #20
Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #22
Sirveri Nov 2012 #69
Coyotl Nov 2012 #23
secondwind Nov 2012 #24
KathieG Nov 2012 #25
Jisis Nov 2012 #26
jillan Nov 2012 #31
Jisis Nov 2012 #71
Zorra Nov 2012 #27
GoldenOldie Nov 2012 #28
kansasobama Nov 2012 #29
-Steph- Nov 2012 #30
HiPointDem Nov 2012 #32
politicaljack78 Nov 2012 #33
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #34
Ms. Toad Nov 2012 #35
magical thyme Nov 2012 #74
Samantha Nov 2012 #36
argiel1234 Nov 2012 #37
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rufus dog Nov 2012 #40
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druidity33 Nov 2012 #72
lonestarnot Nov 2012 #76
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #78
lonestarnot Nov 2012 #104
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napkinz Nov 2012 #97
ChaoticTrilby Nov 2012 #98
underthematrix Nov 2012 #99
AZ Lib Nov 2012 #100
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veness Nov 2012 #102
silvershadow Nov 2012 #103
azmesa207 Nov 2012 #105
jillan Nov 2012 #124
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FreedomRain Nov 2012 #128
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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:25 PM

1. kicked and recommended.

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Response to Firebrand Gary (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:28 PM

108. election integrity peops have been suing in az for years

here is the latest blow to fair and free elections...all they were suing for is for the law to be followed

http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.com/2012/11/pima-county-judge-refuses-citizens.html

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #108)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:21 PM

122. Omg - I thought Pima was the normal county in this state.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:27 PM

2. kick and recommend

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:28 PM

3. K&R

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:29 PM

4. kick--would this change any races?

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Response to DonRedwood (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:41 PM

16. Yes!! It could change our Senate race AND possibly Sheriff - yes - Sheriff Joe won again which was

a shock!

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Response to jillan (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:20 PM

96. Then I am really hoping that these ballots get counted!

Hang in there!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:30 PM

5. Kicked to keep thread alive!!! n/t

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:30 PM

6. Kick

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:31 PM

7. K/R (nt)

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:32 PM

8. Does this area include Gabby Gifford's congressional district?

I believe we lost it but it was close last night. I forget the name of her staff member who is in the seat.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:42 PM

17. All districts. That is another race I cannot believe we lost!

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:44 PM

90. Gifford's Represented part of Tucson, so, no. n/t

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #90)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:55 PM

120. There are still ballots out in Tucson as well.

We always seem to take a long time for provisional and absentees - Harry Mitchell in 2006, Gabby in 2010, the stupid recall election in Peoria I covered in 2008, but this is outrageous.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:32 PM

9. Kick, kick, kick!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:32 PM

10. thanks for that article too!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:34 PM

11. Think there could be a race/game changer in those ballots? 600k? Could be. K&R

There's a stench in the air.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:34 PM

12. We desperately need national voting standards

 

for all states. A rethug state legislature can subvert democracy and deny its' citizens access to fully participate in national voting. Just think of the scores of people who couldn't stand in long lines due to their age or health.

Repubs want a banana republic where they are the plantation owners and the people are their slaves.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:37 PM

13. If it is that many 600,000 ballots not counted ~ A little math

It could make Arizona look bluer than they project it actually is.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results/arizona

President
R 930,581
D 741,236

Separated by 189,345, uh yeah 600,000 additional ballots could reduce that margin quickly if they break for the President.

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Response to libertypirate (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:09 PM

95. But where does it say 600,000? I saw 200.000 and another 200,000 for four hundred thousand

Did somebody just re-add a 200,000 to it?

600,000 makes a huge difference. 400,000 and the odds are greatly against Mr. Obama but should encourage all future Blue state seekers.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:39 PM

14. Wow! Only "94.7% of precincts reporting”!!

Obama -682,473
Romney - 873,276

http://www.azcentral.com/elections/

Pretty shocking...

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:40 PM

15. WOW jillan! This needs to be Pinned if Possible..

WTH.. how can they determine winners when that many votes have not been counted?

How many did Carmona lose by?

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Response to Cha (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:47 PM

21. Carmona lost by 80,000 :(

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:43 PM

18. unreal

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:45 PM

19. kick & rec eom

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:45 PM

20. Kicking to the top.

This needs to be front and center for awhile.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:50 PM

22. I thought we had Arizona. When it went red it was a surprise.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:30 AM

69. Polling showed it going red every time.

Probably not as deep red as it actually went however.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:51 PM

23. knr

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:57 PM

24. KICKED SKY HIGH

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:57 PM

25. Shared on facebook. This is insane.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:59 PM

26. I live in Phoenix

and also voted early! And all Blue, of course. This is BEYOND ridiculous!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Response to Jisis (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:11 PM

31. Please sign the petition. Link is posted in the OP.

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Response to jillan (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:48 AM

71. Yep--I signed it yesterday n/t

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:01 PM

27. Done nt

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Response to Zorra (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:07 PM

28. Done and notified those that voted Absentee too!

Lots of military in Arizona, many who are serving in Afghanistan and other countries. I want to know if their ballots are also being counted?

It is vital that this be kicked.Kee

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:09 PM

29. We need them to count all votes, period

If we let any of this go, you trivialize the process and you never knoi when the next 537 is coming from. Maybe, it is AZ next time.

I am still upset about Florida and Ohio. They have not counted all votes.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:10 PM

30. Wow, hope this story gets picked up everywhere...

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:13 PM

32. kr

 

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:14 PM

33. the Spanish vote is probably heavily underrepresented and the Senate away should

Be Carmona's and the house seats blue. Peeps we cannot sleep on this, injustice here is a threat to justice everywhere.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:17 PM

34. K&R, tweeted, liked, emailed....

Damn.....

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:17 PM

35. Arizona has 10 days by law to count provisional ballots

It would be more effective to read Arizona law. Find out what the checks and balances are on provisional ballots. In Ohio, adjudication of provisional ballots is made at a public meeting. Each voter is also given a means to verify that their ballot was counted. I know Arizona law is similar as to the personal verification; I couldn't easily find information about the process of adjudication.

Calling for processing the ballots by the 13th, when they are not required to process them until the 16th is probably not as effective a use of resources as actually showing up at the public meeting (if adjudication is done at a public meeting) or organizing drives to encourage everyone to verify that their ballot was actually processed.

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:56 AM

74. wish I could rec this. I'll just repeat: BY LAW THEY HAVE 10 DAYS TO COUNT. NT

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:26 PM

36. Unbelievable

Kicking your thread.

Sam

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:31 PM

37. kicking the thread

 

and recommended as well

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:33 PM

38. Kick. They BETTER count my goddamn early vote... NT

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:37 PM

39. K&R big time X2

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:40 PM

40. Was trying to figure out how Joe A won so easily

Man I hate AZ politics.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:40 PM

41. k/r

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:50 PM

42. K&R ... Bigtime!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:51 PM

43. I'm in Arizona...

Just signed it and will send it on to others here in Arizona.

Thank you so much for posting this. I had not heard about it until I saw your post.

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Response to Komiko (Reply #44)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:59 PM

45. Keep Kicking until all Arizonans hear and sign

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Response to GoldenOldie (Reply #45)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:02 AM

56. Yes pass it on to everyone - they may get it to someone in Az!!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:00 PM

46. K & R Just how in the hell do these people think that they are "upholding the American Way"?

Seriously, that is one of the reasons someone gave me for preferring to be a conservative rather than a liberal. WTF???

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:00 PM

47. K&R

Sharing with those here in AZ - thanks for the heads-up!
Good info to be had here from the local ABC affiliate:
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/state/arizona-election-results-400000-early-provisional-ballots-still-to-be-counted

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:04 PM

48. K&R

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:04 PM

49. This whole state is run by corrupt republicans on every level, in almost every office,

in almost every county.

Now I'm wondering if they even counted my vote. I voted early, and I called the County Recorder's office, and they told me that my ballot had been accepted.

But what good is the word of a republican? The word of a republican is no good at all.

The words of a group of people whose native language is Lies are nothing but smoke.

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Response to Zorra (Reply #49)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:30 PM

51. You bring up the most important distinction of integrity.

The republicans are proven to be shameless liars. You cannot trust anything said by an unrepentant liar. There is absolutely NO integrity in the republican party. Their leaders have not disavowed the radical hate mongering or the lies.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:10 PM

50. K&R.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:38 PM

52. K&R.

I'm disgusted to read about this happening in our country.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:49 PM

53. k&r

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:53 PM

54. K&R! n/t

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:53 PM

55. knr. n.t

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:02 AM

57. Another AZ Dem here

I signed and will forward

thanks for the post!!!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:09 AM

58. More than 602,000 ballots in AZ still uncounted: Update

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Response to ProudProgressiveNow (Reply #58)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:48 AM

72. That's a lotta votes!!!

How can they call the state without counting them?



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Response to druidity33 (Reply #72)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:24 AM

76. Their modus operandi is lie. Should not have been called, but what do I know, I'm just a voter.

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #76)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:36 AM

78. Three house seats have not been called yet.

Many of the provisiona s are in blue areas. Hmmmmm!

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Response to ProudProgressiveNow (Reply #78)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:19 PM

104. So what of R Pie Hole? called and why when the provisionals and early ballots have not been counted

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Response to druidity33 (Reply #72)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:35 AM

77. True!!!

3.1 million Arizonans are registered to vote. Even with a high turnout, that is a big %. But this is the home of the Papers Please Law.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:09 AM

59. k&r

Joe gotta go!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:21 AM

60. Yeah, I remember looking at the AZ results and thinking they came back awful quick and awful red!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:48 AM

61. K&R

Egregious!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:26 AM

62. K/R

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:45 AM

63. Justice Dept Civil Rights Division said to monitor Maricopa and Pima

attached is story and URL for Justice Department Division of Civil Rights plans to send monitors for Maricopa and Pima counties. Included are phone numbers and email contacts for voters who had problems with registration, or being forced to use provisional ballots. Encourage all AZ voters to read the attached article and contact the civil rights division with your complaints, concerns.

Also attached is information from The Election Protection Coalition,including phone numbers and email contact info. Election Protection produced a voter guide for AZ as well as other key information about voting. Voter Guide is key in determining whether the election laws of the state were violated during the voting process. Again encourage all AZ voters to familiarize themselves with these tools and submit complaints, inquires to Election Protection - organization of attorneys dedicated to insuring the right to vote for all. Hope this info helps.

where to report problems with voting in 2012 election:



To report a problem or for general elections/voting questions:
Election Protection Coalition
Call:1-866-OUR-VOTE or email info@866ourvote.org

http://www.blogforarizona.com/blog/2012/11/us-justice-department-to-monitor-election-in-maricopa-pima-counties.html


Recent blog on major voting problems in AZ

Provisional-ballot woes swamp county
Voters across the Valley encountered a series of problems when they tried to cast their ballots on Tuesday at their polling places.
Many complained about long waits for provisional ballots, which are given to those who don’t show up on the poll roster or fail to produce proper identification.
Officials with Promise Arizona in Action, an organization that advocates immigration reform and fights discrimination, said they are concerned that poll workers were given pre-election instructions that may have forced the huge number of provisional ballots. They also said numerous voters reported their names were not on lists used by precinct workers.
Petra Falcon, executive director of Promise Arizona, said she was told that 200,000 provisional ballots were cast, as well as 200,000 early ballots. She said counting of those votes will not even begin until this morning and she feared the Maricopa County sheriff’s race would be called before then. And it was, with Sheriff Joe Arpaio beating Democrat Paul Penzone to win his sixth term in office.
“Four hundred thousand ballots — that’s a lot,” Falcon said. “Even if it’s an Arpaio win, those votes should be counted.”
Roopali Desai, Promise Arizona’s attorney, said the number of provisional ballots is “unprecedented” in Arizona — or anywhere. “Nobody can explain it,” she added. “We’re trying to get to the bottom of it.”
Desai said the explosion in provisional ballots appears to be a Maricopa County phenomenon that produced long lines and may have caused some qualified voters to walk away out of frustration or confusion. Desai added that the surge in provisional balloting seemed especially strong in minority neighborhoods. If that suspicion is verified, she added, “it won’t look good for the county.”
The problems appeared to be widespread, though. The Mitchell Park precinct in Tempe reportedly ran out of provisional ballots. It took about two hours to get additional ones to the location, prompting many voters to leave without voting.
Maricopa County Recorder Helen Purcell said polls ran out of provisional-ballot envelopes, not the actual ballots. She urged “a whole lot of patience.”
“We have a number of precincts throughout the Valley — I can’t tell you how many — that still have lines. Some of them may have lines for a while,” Purcell said after polls had closed Tuesday night. At least one precinct, in Mesa, “had 200 people in line” by closing time, she reported.
“It’s going to be awhile until we see all the precincts come in,” Purcell said. “From what we hear from precincts today, there were a number of provisionals. I’m thinking it will probably take us 10 to 12 days to finish up our process.
In Glendale, Ray McGuran said he waited 21/2 hours in line to cast a provisional ballot.
“I ended up dragging a folding chair around with me,” the 67-year-old said. “The time it took was unnecessary.”
When Jason Whiteside, 32, showed up to vote at the Gathering Place church in Phoenix, he was told he could not fill out a regular ballot because his name was on a list of voters who had requested an early ballot by mail. Whiteside didn’t recall ever receiving the early ballot. To vote, he had to fill out a provisional ballot.
Maricopa County Elections Director Karen Osborne said the county had an unusually large number of provisional ballots cast at polling places because many voters ordered an early ballot but went to the polls to vote without it. Provisional ballots ensure people don’t vote twice — at the polls and by early ballot.
Francisco Heredia, executive director of Mi Familia Vota, said a polling place in south Phoenix opened Tuesday morning 45 minutes late. His group, which has been working to increase the number of Latino voters in Arizona, also received many calls from voters concerned they had to vote by provisional ballot.
“They wanted to know if their vote would count,” Heredia said.
Lydia Guzman, executive director of Respeto (Respect), a Hispanic activist group in Phoenix, said there appeared to be a lot of voters frustrated by problems involving provisional ballots at the Maravilla Care Center in south Phoenix.
“We probably need poll workers with better training,” she said. “I was inside and some of them are clearly flustered.”
One first-time voter’s case illustrated the extent of the problems, as well as voters’ determination to make their voices heard.
Gabriel Polanco, 19, said he had to visit the polling site four times before he was allowed to vote.
Polanco arrived to learn that his name was not on the list of registered voters. Polanco, who registered last month, said his voter ID card had not arrived in the mail, so he showed his driver’s license and asked to cast a provisional ballot, but he was told he would need additional identification.
Polanco said he went home and returned with his vehicle title, a bank statement and other documents, but was turned away again because the address on his driver’s license was for his father’s business, rather than the family residence. “I started getting frustrated — more down than anything,” Polanco said.
Polanco’s mother, Reyna, pushed her son not to give up. “We always teach our children about responsibility to the community,” she said.
So Polanco went to a Motor Vehicle Division office and got a new license showing his home address. Again, Polanco said, he was told that he could not vote because his name was not on the registered-voter list. Polanco said he was ready to give up when he got a call from home: His voter ID card arrived in the mail.
On a fourth visit to the polls, workers allowed him to vote but insisted he use a provisional ballot. “It was just ridiculous at that point,” Polanco said. “I kind of understand why people are turned off by this … It’s supposed to be a right to vote, and they’re making it so difficult.”
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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:56 AM

64. WTF! I almost missed this! This could mean very different outcomes! Who in the hell do they think

they are?

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #64)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:26 AM

85. They think they are above the law and so far have proven to be. They own the place.

Kicking for justice!





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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:03 AM

65. Well

This certainly needs to be kept up on top!

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:20 AM

66. KICK!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:06 AM

67. 602,334 to be exact. Here's a county by county breakdown. They have 10 days to finish.

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #67)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:56 AM

75. I am absolutely disgusted that this is going on.

What utter bullshit. I am so very very angry right now. I hope not only hat we get rid of Sheriff Joe, but that charges get filed and whoever thought they could do this gets some JAIL TIME. Seriously. This is just beyond wrong.

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:36 AM

68. K&R!

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:50 AM

70. When I heard the margin romney won by , and that carmona lost I was alittle suspicious

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:51 AM

73. rec!

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:37 AM

79. KICK

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:41 AM

80. Any way we can send it to the obama

Campaign so they do something about it ,

A senate seat is at stake

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:41 AM

81. About 54,541 early ballots, 26,194 provisional ballots and 600 conditional ballots {Pima County}


Never before have so many early ballots been returned on Election Day at polling places,
Roads (chief deputy recorder and registrar of voters) said, explaining the backlog.

<snip>

This isn't the first time Pima County has had problems with provisional ballots and polling-place mix-ups.

The American Civil Liberties Union named Pima County as the worst offender in disenfranchising
voters in 2008 - the county invalidated 18 percent of provisional ballots because voters
went to the wrong polling place in that election.

<snip>

People who voted by provisional ballot on Tuesday can track their ballot online at recorder.pima.gov
or by calling the phone number on the receipt they were given at the polls. Here are the stories of four
voters who cast provisional ballots in Pima County Tuesday.


http://azstarnet.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/az-ballots-remain-to-be-counted/article_a6068044-12fe-5a43-8bf0-761eb3d73cef.html

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:19 AM

82. K & R !!!




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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:58 AM

83. kick

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:00 AM

84. K&R

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:56 AM

86. I used to live in AZ

Unless they changed the law since then, I was under the impression that provisional ballots weren't counted unless a race was very close.

For instance, my aunt voted straight-ticket Dem with a provisional ballot in 2006, but the only reason her ballot was counted is that the J.D. Hayworth vs. Harry Mitchell election was so close.

FWIW, I thought that law sucked. All ballots should be counted, ALWAYS!

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Response to lbrtbell (Reply #86)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:04 PM

93. I don't think that's true ~

or does not hold true in this case for sure.

More than 600,000 ballots in Arizona still uncounted
BY: The Associated Press

Published: November 8, 2012 at 8:52 am

Individuals who had insufficient identification when they went to vote at a polling place were allowed to cast a “conditional provisional” ballot. They have until Nov. 13 to return to their county elections office with proper identification.

In some cases, close elections might not be decided for several days, or even a week. Pima County won’t even begin counting provisional ballots until Monday, according to The Arizona Republic.

In many counties, a portion of the ballots that arrived before Election Day weren’t counted before the polls opened. Some couldn’t be counted in time, while others needed to be reprocessed because of overvotes, which occur when voters cast votes for too many candidates in a given race.

Early ballots that were dropped off at polling places have yet to be counted in many counties because voters’ signatures need to be verified.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:00 PM

87. Hey...

 

....I got an idea. Back when the DOJ focused on the South and we ended up with the Voting Rights Act - and even specific areas within those states. I say that every state where officially sanctioned, overt efforts were made to do anything to try and fu$k voters - suppression, or whatever this one is classified, et al - should now be added to the list with a whole new set of 'acts' added to the list of crap they shouldn't do. Of course a national standard would be helpful but in the meantime some kind of punishment - not necessarily the death penalty like Tweetybird suggested, but a minimum of ten years wouldn't be out of line - starting with the Governors.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:04 PM

88. Tell Them to Call this number directly 202 514 1888 ASAP

I knew there was something wrong with AZ, according to certified polls that I saw AZ was in play big time and Obama should have carried that State.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:15 PM

89. Not only that, but at least ONE polling station closed with people in line and turned them away

This is a disgrace

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:48 PM

91. K & R.

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:58 PM

92. How does one hold these people accountable?

Why isnt anyone in jail for this stuff?

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:06 PM

94. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, jillan.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:39 PM

97. calling Rachel, Ed, Tweety, Lawrence






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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:04 PM

98. Kicked and rec'd!

We can't lose any more seats to THEM.

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:16 PM

99. kicked and rec'd

I recall PBO's team saying Arizona was in play.

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:45 PM

100. Signed

DONE!

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:57 PM

101. Run Run Run Run and

KICK!!!!

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:02 PM

102. Signed. K&R! n/t

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:10 PM

103. K&R

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:42 PM

105. The counting of early ballots

and provisional ballots is down to around 100000 now . I was told they have ten more days to count them . I told them that was unacceptable as it could change the outcome of the Senate and the sheriff election he said that was unlikely . I said no wonder the republican control this state .

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Response to azmesa207 (Reply #105)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:23 PM

124. It's still over 600K - they were not truthful! Here -

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:13 PM

106. Is this petition for all of Arizona, or just Maricopa County voters?

 

will sign if pertinent to all counties...

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Response to Yavapai (Reply #106)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:17 PM

111. If you want your state wide office (senate) vote to count it should be all of Arizona.

 

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:26 PM

107. kicking again.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:53 PM

109. Done! Ugh...

...this state is whacked. TURN IT BLUE, DAMNIT!!

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:01 PM

110. still counting

ABC reports "Helen Purcell said the remaining early votes will be counted over the next couple days."

Not to worry yet, but definitely keep an eye out.

Several local races (school boards etc) are probably still undecided. Pretty sure the count will go on.

Holding breath for Carmona and Penzone!

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Response to FreedomRain (Reply #110)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:22 PM

113. kick

xx

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Response to FreedomRain (Reply #110)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:19 PM

121. Carmona made a statement today that he is not conceding until every vote is counted!

Yes!!!

What I don't understand is why the early ballots were not yet counted. That makes no sense!

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Response to jillan (Reply #121)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:00 PM

125. Excellent! Now what's the address on that 24 7 protest until all the votes are counted?

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Response to jillan (Reply #121)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:33 AM

127. not conceding

That is excellent news

as to "why?", I can't begin to guess. Ok here's a guess.
My family of 4 voters had early ballots, didnt mail, but dropped them off at the polling station on EDay.
They went in a plastic box, I presumed to be read all at once after the polls closed. Seems it would be a simple matter to run them through the machines. Probably the majority of the time consumption is verifying the signatures on outer envelopes, etc.

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:18 PM

112. Should it be renamed New Mississippi or West Mississippi? (nt)

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:31 PM

114. K&R

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:51 PM

115. K/R n/t

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:56 PM

116. K&R!!!

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:13 PM

117. K&R!

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:02 PM

118. kick

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:07 PM

119. kick

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:22 PM

123. R&K

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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:07 PM

126. kick

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Response to jillan (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:46 AM

128. update

Last Updated: 15 minutes ago]

PHOENIX - Estimating an even higher number than initially thought, Secretary of State Ken Bennett said Thursday there are more than 631,000 early and provisional ballots statewide that have yet to be processed and counted.

...

Arizona's counties have until Nov. 16 to verify and process the remaining early and provisional ballots. A state canvass to certify official election results for federal, statewide and legislative races is scheduled Dec. 3.

Voters who had insufficient identification when they went to a polling place were allowed to cast a "conditional provisional" ballot.

They have until Nov. 13 to return to their county elections office with proper ID.


* This article actually says the 14th, another said the 13th. Play it safe!


Many people had to vote provisional because they had received an early ballot and either did not mail it or bring it with them to the poll. (sometimes they were surprised with this info). These people should have to do nothing but wait. I did see somewhere--unfortunately didn't save the location-- that about 40,000 of these were being processed per day and should be close to being complete.

For the "conditional provisional" (insufficient ID), they can probably assume many won't have the ID verified, so they won't have to count those. And they are waiting for that time to expire. If you voted (or know someone who did) provisionally - make sure they go down to the elections office with proper ID-- requirements are detailed here.

For Maricopa:
111 S. 3rd Ave., #103
Phoenix, AZ

Other Counties
Office Locations by County

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Response to FreedomRain (Reply #128)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:39 PM

129. There's only one location for the entire county?!



Folks there need to organize mass drives to get people down there! Maybe campaign volunteers from nearby states could come in and do sort of a GOTID cdrive.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #129)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:55 PM

130. As far as I can tell, yes

But If I lived farther away I would call and check on that.
Phone numbers at same link.

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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:58 PM

131. kick

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Mon Nov 12, 2012, 07:30 AM

132. kick

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