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Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:12 PM

I don't want to give them any helpful advice, but here's another bizarre/telling thing about Romney

and McCain. They both acted like complete dicks during their whole campaigns, lying, being arrogant, flip-flopping seemingly daily, etc etc etc, but once they lost, they both actually delivered conciliatory, statesman-like speeches. Whether they believed the sentiments of what they said is another issue. Again, not that I would want to help them in the LEAST, but I think if they'd behaved all along like they each did at the end, they might not have gotten their asses kicked. But I think this is just part of the hubris and arrogance of the Repuke leaders. They just-don't-get-it.

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Reply I don't want to give them any helpful advice, but here's another bizarre/telling thing about Romney (Original post)
codjh9 Nov 2012 OP
jberryhill Nov 2012 #1
codjh9 Nov 2012 #3
Flashmann Nov 2012 #6
renate Nov 2012 #2
CJCRANE Nov 2012 #4
codjh9 Nov 2012 #7
TheCowsCameHome Nov 2012 #5
Mr.Bill Nov 2012 #8
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #9
codjh9 Nov 2012 #10
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #12
codjh9 Nov 2012 #15
gordianot Nov 2012 #11
WinkyDink Nov 2012 #13
Lilyeye Nov 2012 #14
SubgeniusHasSlack Nov 2012 #16
The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #17
GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #18

Response to codjh9 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:13 PM

1. There are alway those who believe that "belligerance" is "strength"


The problem is that most people are decent.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:15 PM

3. The *saving* grace is that most people are decent! Yeah, belligerence is belligerence, kinda like

rape is rape.

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Response to codjh9 (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:18 PM

6. belligerence is belligerence,

But what about legitimate belligerence??......

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Response to codjh9 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:14 PM

2. my husband said that if Concession Romney had shown up during the campaign,

... he might have had a shot.

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Response to codjh9 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:16 PM

4. But the Repub base rewards ignorance and arrogance.

They like their leaders to say things which are factually incorrect because they know it annoys liberals.

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:18 PM

7. That, and I think a lot of the base doesn't know whether something is factually correct or not,

and we all know they prefer to 'select' what is 'true' and what isn't anyway.

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Response to codjh9 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:18 PM

5. I get aroused listening to their (GOP) concession speeches.

I hope to hear many more, actually.

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Response to codjh9 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:19 PM

8. Different people pulling the puppet strings

before and after the elections.

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Response to codjh9 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:20 PM

9. Don't mistake a good acting job for two minutes at the bitter end for reality.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:21 PM

10. Hey, I did say whether they believe it or not is another issue ... yes, they may just be doing a

nice little acting job at the end.

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Response to codjh9 (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:22 PM

12. I was meaning whether or not YOU believe their words. I KNOW they don't.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:26 PM

15. I don't like arguing with people whom I probably agree with on 98% of things, so I'm going to drop

it right there...

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Response to codjh9 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:21 PM

11. It did not take McCain very long to turn nasty.

I wondered if Obama's offer to talk with Romey was a backhand slap a McCain. If nothing else maybe Obama could find out what Romney was talking about if it is off the record.

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Response to gordianot (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:24 PM

13. McCain was nasty long ago, to wit:

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."

-- Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.

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Response to gordianot (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:24 PM

14. Exactly

McCain has been bitter the entire 4 years. I gave McCain credit with his speech, but I won't make that mistake with Romney until I see how he acts the next 4 years.

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Response to codjh9 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:30 PM

16. rMoney was transparently disingenuous.

 

I didn't buy a syllable of it .

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Response to codjh9 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:31 PM

17. Not everyone thinks Romney's speech was gracious:

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/romneys_concession_speech_was_not_gracious/

He said, “We can’t risk partisan bickering and political posturing.” Good for him. He also sighed that his wife, Ann, “would have been a wonderful first lady,” and, in a statement that would not have been out of place coming from a partner at Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce, thanked his “sons for their tireless work on behalf of the campaign, and … their wives and children for taking up their slack as their husbands and dads have spent so many weeks away from home.” Seriously.

If you think that’s the epitome of Republican class, contrast Romney’s defeat speech to that of John McCain, in 2008. Whatever you think of McCain, he didn’t sit around stewing forever before getting on the horn with his opponent. And when he stood before his supporters, he shushed the members of his constituency who tried to boo their new president, and instead offered Obama his “respect for his ability and perseverance” in “inspiring the hopes of so many millions of Americans who had once wrongly believed that they had little at stake or little influence in the election of an American president.” McCain said he “admired” Obama and “applauded” him, and he ended by saying, “I hold in my heart nothing but love for this country and for all its citizens, whether they supported me or Sen. Obama.”

Romney, on the other hand, merely managed to grunt out that the Obama campaign “deserves congratulations” and “I wish all of them well.” He then moped that “I so wish that I had been able to fulfill your hopes to lead the country in a different direction, but the nation chose another leader,” and ominously declared that “Ann and I join with you to earnestly pray for him and for this great nation.” It seemed as tired and halfhearted as a little league player muttering, “Good game. Good game. Good game,” to the winning team before heading to the showers.

He wanted it to be “different,” and he’s praying for you, America. That is not “gracious.” What it is instead is a pretty typical Romney, a man who would arrogantly refuse to entertain the notion of defeat and then grind in his heels and refuse to accept it for as long as possible. A man who would pout that his wife would have made a kickass first lady, who thanks men for their tireless work and “wives” for picking up the slack. That was your glimpse, Tuesday night, of what your President Romney would have looked like. And maybe it doesn’t sound gracious to say so, but thank God that’s the last look we’ll have.


Also, I think Romney was even more dickish throughout the campaign than McCain. McCain's dickishness was basically of the get-the-hell-off-my-lawn variety. He was the crusty, crabby, impatient old guy who was having to go through some shit he didn't like, and was increasingly aware that his VP choice was a disaster, which made him even crabbier. Mittens, on the other hand, was dickish in the way only a .001-percenter can be. He didn't like to answer questions or be otherwise importuned by the little people. He bullied everybody, was even ruder to the President during the debates than McCain was, and showed by everything he did and said that he felt the presidency was owed to him because of his awesome Romneyness. I don't think I remember a presidential candidate as utterly dickish as Romney (though Nixon came close).

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Response to codjh9 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:36 PM

18. They don't write their concession speeches .

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