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Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:01 PM

Who should Obama replace Hillary Clinton with?

POLL: Who will be the next Secretary of State?

I am guessing it's John Kerry. That's just me.

Hey, you think Scott Brown will try to run again?

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Reply Who should Obama replace Hillary Clinton with? (Original post)
Zadoc Nov 2012 OP
SCliberal091294 Nov 2012 #1
justiceischeap Nov 2012 #2
TDale313 Nov 2012 #10
Mass Nov 2012 #11
justiceischeap Nov 2012 #25
arcane1 Nov 2012 #49
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #61
sadbear Nov 2012 #84
Bombtrack Nov 2012 #26
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #14
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #30
WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #45
lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #57
demhottie Nov 2012 #81
Enrique Nov 2012 #3
flamingdem Nov 2012 #7
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #18
justiceischeap Nov 2012 #39
Cha Nov 2012 #47
Mass Nov 2012 #4
maveric56 Nov 2012 #5
flamingdem Nov 2012 #8
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #19
Incitatus Nov 2012 #76
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #82
OmahaBlueDog Nov 2012 #87
Incitatus Nov 2012 #93
pa28 Nov 2012 #6
sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #9
MoonchildCA Nov 2012 #24
Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #34
Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #40
TeeYiYi Nov 2012 #59
Sparkly Nov 2012 #64
Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #67
pa28 Nov 2012 #68
geardaddy Nov 2012 #92
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #12
DURHAM D Nov 2012 #21
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #22
KamaAina Nov 2012 #48
Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #13
SubgeniusHasSlack Nov 2012 #15
FSogol Nov 2012 #31
pscot Nov 2012 #91
ReasonableToo Nov 2012 #16
Capt. Obvious Nov 2012 #17
frazzled Nov 2012 #20
Bombtrack Nov 2012 #23
OmahaBlueDog Nov 2012 #89
Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #27
madamesilverspurs Nov 2012 #28
GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #50
newfie11 Nov 2012 #29
boxman Nov 2012 #32
Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #33
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Zorra Nov 2012 #65
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NotThisTime Nov 2012 #35
HopeHoops Nov 2012 #36
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closeupready Nov 2012 #44
HopeHoops Nov 2012 #53
Sheepshank Nov 2012 #37
sad sally Nov 2012 #55
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zonkers Nov 2012 #73
hifiguy Nov 2012 #38
Archbishop Nov 2012 #41
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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:02 PM

1. John Kerry is likely

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:03 PM

2. The problem as I see it with Kerry

is it's very likely if he's named as SoS, Scott Brown will win his seat. Who would MA have to run against him?

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:06 PM

10. ^^^ this^^^

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:06 PM

11. Nope. Brown's brand is damaged.

I am not a big fan of having another Senate election in MA, but I wished people stop thinking Scott Brown is invincible. He is not. We have a whole bunch of people who could run and win, if the party stopped saying they cannot win.

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Response to Mass (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:17 PM

25. He's got a 1.4 million built-in lead

You don't think those same folks would vote for him again? I'd bet it'd be pretty close. Besides, you'd have to start getting a candidate ready now... Who would Mass pick? Is there anyone that immediately comes to mind?

I'm not, nor have I ever been a Mass resident, so insight would be welcome.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:06 PM

49. And he has a truck!!

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #49)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:48 PM

61. And a pristine Carhartt jacket

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:01 AM

84. I can only think of Deval Patrick

Anyone think he can be convinced to run?

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Response to Mass (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:20 PM

26. Obviously since he just lost hours ago nobody thinks he's invincible but he's easily still STRONG

More than any Republican in Massachusetts in a long time and is the favorite for governor in 2014 if he choses to run. 4 out of the last 5 MA governors have been Republicans after all.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:07 PM

14. Exactly -- would hurt the Senate

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:22 PM

30. True. nt

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:58 PM

45. Capuano

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:07 AM

81. If he chose Bill, we would achieve a Middle East peace agreement


Bill is in the zone. Together, they could do it.

But Bill would need to leave after one year-!he has had a quadruple bypass and the job has too much stress and traveling.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:03 PM

3. Chris Christie

he owes him something, why not SOS?

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Response to Enrique (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:04 PM

7. He's only interested in Joisey

imo

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Response to Enrique (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:08 PM

18. lololololol

A Republican bully as SoS with zero foreign policy experience? For real?

And, what does Obama owe Christie?

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Response to Enrique (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:52 PM

39. He paid that balance with a phone call & hug from Bruce Springsteen. nt

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Response to Enrique (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:01 PM

47. PBO gave Christie "something"...

The Phone with Bruce Springsteen on the line from Air Force One.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:03 PM

4. Probably, and he will lose again.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:03 PM

5. How about Bill Clinton?

Can a former prez be the SOS?

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Response to maveric56 (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:05 PM

8. +1 this would be great

but unlikely

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Response to maveric56 (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:10 PM

19. No -- too close to Presidency

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:56 PM

76. So?

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Response to Incitatus (Reply #76)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:43 AM

82. He is not allowed to be President

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #82)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:18 AM

87. That's not an issue being SoS

Two recent (sorta) examples; neither Madeline Albright nor Henry Kissinger were born in this country. They just go to the next Secretary on the list who is eligible (the AG, I think).

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #82)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:25 PM

93. That would only exclude him from being vice-President. nt

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:04 PM

6. Wesley Clark could be a good choice. n/t

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Response to pa28 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:05 PM

9. Yes Wesley Clark would be great!

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Response to pa28 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:15 PM

24. Yes! I was coming here to say the same. I think he'd be a great choice.

And we would not lose an incumbent.

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Response to pa28 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:27 PM

34. You win the thread.

Perfect.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:52 PM

40. Yes! Wesley.

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Response to pa28 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:18 PM

59. Agreed. Wesley Clark would be good...

I wonder if Obama will find another spot in his administration for Jon Huntsman Jr. I wouldn't be surprised. SoS not likely but you never know...

TYY

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Response to pa28 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:05 PM

64. I totally agree.

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Response to pa28 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:19 PM

67. Perfect candidate for the job.

I was a Clarkie in 2004 so I'm a bit prejudice.

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #67)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:40 PM

68. Me too.

He's the best we have to offer.

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Response to pa28 (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:39 AM

92. Yes.

Clark already has the connections.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:06 PM

12. Susan Rice -- leave Kerry in the Senate

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:10 PM

21. Agree re: Susan.

She is a lightning rod on Benghazi so I hope Obama runs right at the Repubs with this. Fuck 'em and give them a head butt.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:12 PM

22. Exactly

I want the President to come out with metaphorical guns a 'blazing.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:05 PM

48. That way the phrase "Secretary of State Rice" would no longer make me

!!

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:06 PM

13. John Kerry would be a good choice.

Where is Hillary going?

Is it the anti-woman stuff in the Middle East that is causing problems?

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:07 PM

15. Didn't Hillary say she was staying on?

 

??

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Response to SubgeniusHasSlack (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:23 PM

31. Yes, she did. n/t

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Response to FSogol (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:37 AM

91. But she also said she was leaving

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:08 PM

16. Kucinich is available.

He's a good citizen of the world and would be a good move if the Prez wants the dept of defense to work for PEACE. (truly the best defense is peace)

It won't happen but it is a nice thought.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:08 PM

17. JFK

Then Brown will win his seat in a special election, becoming the Junior Senator from MA

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:10 PM

20. Please don't raid the US Senate

I'd rather not lose a single vote there, especially Kerry's.

The nominee might be someone we've never considered, or even heard of.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:15 PM

23. Barbara Boxer, Russ Feingold, Richard Lugar?

There are probably alot of great diplomats I don't know about though.

No way should we risk Kerry's seat.

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Response to Bombtrack (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:22 AM

89. Lugar would be a shrewd pick

First, he clearly has the foreign policy chops.

Second, it's "bipartisan".

Third, I agree with the other posts in the thread: while Kerry is a good pick as well, it very likely gives the MA Senate seat right back to the GOP.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:22 PM

27. Wes Clark

Smartest guy in the room wherever he goes.

Serious gravitas.

A credible foreign policy background.

A solid Democrat.

At least a few years back was more than willing to serve.

edit to add: No electoral hit. He is not in any elected office that we would have to defend.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:22 PM

28. Bill Richardson

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:10 PM

50. I would be happy with him or Wes Clark.

I thought he might pick one of them back in 2008.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:22 PM

29. Kerry would be great

In fact I can't think of a better person for the job.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:26 PM

32. Clark

Kerry is the popular choice, and I think he'd be great. But Wesley Clark is an intriguing option. I think he's more than capable, and it would allow Kerry's Senate seat to remain filled.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:26 PM

33. Dennis Kucinich or Neil Degrasse Tyson.

 

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #33)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:03 PM

62. I like the idea of Kucinich...

... which I hadn't considered. I also like the idea of Wesley Clark.

Jon Huntsman Jr., John Kerry and Colin Powell round out my potential top five Hillary SoS replacement list.

TYY

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #33)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:07 PM

65. Yeh, Dennis would be awesome. nt

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:37 AM

90. You know

I would love to see the government really give it to the repubs and create a Department of Science and offer someone like Tyson the post, though that is highly unlikely. Perhaps a major upgrade to ED to ramp up government involvement in that area.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:30 PM

35. He can't take a D Senator....

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:48 PM

36. Is she retiring? I hadn't heard anything about that.

 

If she is, I'd say Colin Powell.

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:54 PM

42. Hillary has said many times that she only wanted to serve one term. n/t

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:56 PM

44. Why Powell? He helped lie us in to Iraq.

And he allegedly KNEW the intelligence was BS. You'd put someone like that in charge?

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Response to closeupready (Reply #44)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:31 PM

53. He's also admitted the intelligence was BS. Sorry, but I trust him. He's a statesman.

 

Frankly, he's the only one from the shrub's years that I would trust. The rest are all war criminals. He was just being a good soldier and you could read in his eyes that he wasn't happy about it. So yes, I'd trust him with that position. He's well respected around the world and has the calm demeanor and comprehension of situations to be effective in the position.

Can you think of someone more suited for the job? I can't.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:50 PM

37. Huntsman

I seriously think he has the international savvy.

But would he stay the 4 years, or try and run again in 2016?

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #37)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:12 PM

55. Huntsman is my vote, too. It would be reaching across the aisle while tapping into someone

with lots of international experience and one who doesn't have baggage that would hurt the President. Taking John Kerry out of the senate would mean another 'fight' with the GOPers and Susan Rice's battles (right or wrong) have yet to be fought (thru sham hearings by the house), which would take her attention away from SoS work.

Sec Clinton says she'll stay until successor is up and running - Jon Huntsman wouldn't need a lot of schooling on the job.

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Response to sad sally (Reply #55)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:26 PM

60. I agree with you. See post 59...

Jon Huntsman Jr. had the only chance of winning the 2012 presidential election, of all republican contenders. I'm surprised the GOP couldn't see that.

I think Jon Huntsman Jr. is a viable contender for SoS when Hillary steps down.

TYY

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Response to sad sally (Reply #55)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:40 PM

73. Wesley spooked me with that weird TV show he was hosting. Just saying.

I would like to know what was going on in his mind.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:51 PM

38. I think either Wes Clark or Bill Richardson would be

a very solid choice. Good suggestions on this thread.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:53 PM

41. Dick Lugar, please.

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Response to Archbishop (Reply #41)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:00 PM

46. lolololololol

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Response to Archbishop (Reply #41)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:47 PM

70. He would be a good choice

And it would be a nice show of bipartisanship. But I would hate to see Kerry get passed over again...he is one of the people who went out on a limb and took a risk on Obama early, and he is very well qualified for the job. Maybe if Obama picked Lugar for Secretary of State he could give Kerry Secretary of Defense...is Panetta expected to stay on?

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #70)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:17 AM

86. I just went on line to check on Lugar's age. He is 80!

After seeing what Hillary has gone thru at age 65, I'm wondering if Lugar could handle it physically. It's too bad. As a distinguished Senator on foreign affairs, he certainly could handle it professionally and very well. But we don't want to kill the guy...

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:54 PM

43. Agree, John Kerry.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #43)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:09 PM

56. I think Kerry would make an excellent SOS, but we just have to make sure we have a

strong Dem candidate to replace him in the Senate.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:14 PM

51. Rahm Emanuel.

They say diplomacy is the art of telling someone to go to hell and make them think it will be a nice trip. Rahm's got the first part nailed already.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:19 PM

52. You ended your OP subject with a preposition.


Some suggestions:

Dennis E Ross – Middle East adviser to five presidents who is stepping down in December.

Former Senator George J Mitchell Jr –negotiated Northern Ireland peace, resigned in May as Special Envoy for Middle East Peace. Probably too old at 77, though.

Former Ambassador David Hale – current Special Envoy for Middle East Peace.

Richard Holbrooke – former Special Representative on Afghanistan and Pakistan. Republicans would probably oppose on the grounds that he is dead.

Marc Grossman – current Special Representative on Afghanistan and Pakistan. Not as qualified as Holbrooke, but breathing could be an asset.


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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:43 PM

54. Susan Rice makes the most sense but it would put the re-elected prez immediately on the hot seat

since the RW would love to make a huge fight over her and put the Benghazi thing back in play. It's too bad, too...

I'd hate for us to give up Kerry, altho he would be perfect too. Lugar might not be a bad choice since I doubt many RWers have the stomach to fuss about him and it would show bi-partisanship on the part of the President, which could be a nice thing.

Richardson would seem to be a good choice, but he has a terrible personal reputation, which might come to light if the RW wanted to make trouble early in Obama's second term.




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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:13 PM

58. Gary Locke. n/t

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:04 PM

63. Russ Feingold

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:13 PM

66. Bill

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:42 PM

69. I think Kerry deserves it

And would be very good at it. But I would be happy with Susan Rice also. Both are good choices.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:04 PM

71. I hope it is Kerry. Deval Patrick will beat Brown.

You heard it here first.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:05 PM

72. Don't reduce Dem. majority in Senate. Huntsman sounds good.

Or Rachel Maddow or Bill Clinton. Or best of all keep Hillary there.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:43 PM

74. Kerry or Susan Rice

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:52 PM

75. What about Jim Webb?

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:00 AM

77. Al Gore

He was right on the war. He is right on global warming.

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Response to dsc (Reply #77)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:06 AM

80. That's who I'd pick as well...

 

try to show the world that we're ready to be serious about climate change.

but only if we are.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:02 AM

78. Bill Clinton would be a great choice!

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Response to B Calm (Reply #78)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:13 AM

85. Not sure Bill would even consider it. For one thing, he is a world statesman all on his own, but in

the very best way. Bill Clinton's foundation is awfully important and does fine work all over the world.

In addition, I don't know if his health can withstand the punishment of that job. He might be frailer than we think. Richard Holbrooke keeled over suddenly and died from a massive heart attack right in the middle of his work for the State Dept.

Bill Clinton needs to take care of himself. He is doing excellent work as it is...

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:05 AM

79. Peter DeFazio!

Pete would turn him down but I'd record all the news clips about it.



PB

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:59 AM

83. If he picks Kerry, you can bet Scott Brown will run for his seat.

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Response to Zadoc (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:20 AM

88. I agree it'll be Kerry.

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