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bamacrat

(3,867 posts)
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 06:11 PM Nov 2012

Bitchfest to ensue.

Here in Alabama we have a law called e-verify or I-9 that you have to fill out to prove you are a citizen in order to obtain employment. The people i work with have absolutely no problem with that, in fact they are for it.....But Obamacare, no that is bad government intrusion. I will never understand why republicans are ok with certain government intrusion while condemning the gov't for that.

I had a discussion with my best friend Saturday night after the Bama game about undocumented workers. He is more a libertarian than anything. But he thinks they should not be here unless they pay taxes. I explained that it make better economic sense on the state level to keep them undocumented. My reasoning is that if they were required to file taxes many if not most of them would fall below the poverty line thus receiving money from the government. But if they were allowed to work in the state ala Texas, they pay sales tax which directly impacts the community in which they work or live. Conversation kinda ended there.

I am really trying to make the time go by as fast as possible so I can go home and watch the votes come in.

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Bitchfest to ensue. (Original Post) bamacrat Nov 2012 OP
Undocumented workers do pay sales taxes and other taxes. Most probably dont make enough $$ to be Erose999 Nov 2012 #1
And yet, they are collected from their paychecks anyway Xipe Totec Nov 2012 #3
That was my point. bamacrat Nov 2012 #4
a lot of them do pay taxes justabob Nov 2012 #2
The I-9 is Federal law. Barack_America Nov 2012 #5
You're right. bamacrat Nov 2012 #7
Don't you mean "Non Gender Specific Compliant Festival"? jorno67 Nov 2012 #6

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
1. Undocumented workers do pay sales taxes and other taxes. Most probably dont make enough $$ to be
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 06:18 PM
Nov 2012

liable for federal income tax. They don't recieve medicare or SS so they shouldn't be expected to pay those taxes.

Really, its a wash.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
3. And yet, they are collected from their paychecks anyway
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 06:22 PM
Nov 2012

That's the irony; they DO pay federal income taxes. More than they should. And, because they are illegal, they do not file income tax returns, so they never get back those tax dollars paid in excess....

In the end, illegal immigrants pay more in taxes than they will ever receive in benefits.

bamacrat

(3,867 posts)
4. That was my point.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 06:23 PM
Nov 2012

Its more like they want to tag them like cattle or something. I mean I want everyone here to be a citizen but reality says that can't be. So, we should find a way to help people who have nothing regardless of whether or not they pay taxes.

justabob

(3,069 posts)
2. a lot of them do pay taxes
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 06:22 PM
Nov 2012

If they are working under a fake (on edit.... or borrowed) social security number/ids they still have taxes taken out of their paychecks, and as a bonus they cannot file for a refund.

bamacrat

(3,867 posts)
7. You're right.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 06:35 PM
Nov 2012

Its just we have this additional immigration law that sucks. I moved back here from Texas and truly miss the Mexicans.

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