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Tue Nov 6, 2012, 10:59 AM

Oh my God, it is happening... Video of touch screens not letting someone choose Obama!

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Reply Oh my God, it is happening... Video of touch screens not letting someone choose Obama! (Original post)
ReverendDeuce Nov 2012 OP
scheming daemons Nov 2012 #1
caduceus111 Nov 2012 #13
Life Long Dem Nov 2012 #17
Jack Sprat Nov 2012 #19
hollysmom Nov 2012 #2
KeepItReal Nov 2012 #3
Melinda Nov 2012 #4
PowerToThePeople Nov 2012 #5
caduceus111 Nov 2012 #14
KaryninMiami Nov 2012 #6
EnviroBat Nov 2012 #7
Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #8
gvstn Nov 2012 #10
Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #15
meadowlark5 Nov 2012 #9
Marr Nov 2012 #11
cleanhippie Nov 2012 #12
grantcart Nov 2012 #16
brooklynite Nov 2012 #18

Response to ReverendDeuce (Original post)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:00 AM

1. Fake video....

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:25 AM

13. No....there's more discussion here:

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:34 PM

17. MSNBC just reported they took this machine out of operation.

 

Just now mentioned it at 2:30 PM.

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:48 PM

19. Why would you say that?

 

There is no possible way that you nor I nor anyone else can say for certain that the video is fake at this time. So why did you say it? Unless you know something for absolute certain, then you don't know and shouldn't pretend you do.

This is something that is likely to happen on electronic voting machines in districts and counties where Repubs have control of the Election Commission.

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Response to ReverendDeuce (Original post)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:01 AM

2. Is this the special soft ware patchin Ohio?

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Response to ReverendDeuce (Original post)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:02 AM

3. Best case: May be just a touch screen calibration issue.

Real election fraud would occur at the "Central Tabulator" sites where the votes are tallied and then sent back to local officials.

Not in a such way that would be obvious to the actual voter.

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Response to ReverendDeuce (Original post)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:04 AM

4. E-voting fraud: A US tradition since 1964

On and on and on and on and on yet again.

DRE's are a personal favorite.

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Response to ReverendDeuce (Original post)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:06 AM

5. more info please.

When, Where? was it reported?

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Response to PowerToThePeople (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:26 AM

14. Pennsylvania apparently.

See reddit link above.

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Response to ReverendDeuce (Original post)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:06 AM

6. Exactly what happened to me in 2002

Program default was set to Gov Bush-took 3x to get it to take my candidate. Hope someone in a legal position is on board wherever they are.

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Response to ReverendDeuce (Original post)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:08 AM

7. As a person who makes his living as a software tester.

I would have liked to see the person select the Romney choice to see if it gave the same result. But I have to say this smacks of election theft.

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Response to ReverendDeuce (Original post)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:12 AM

8. IMO, I think the Snopes-style answer is "True but MISLEADING"

View the HD version. They're just lightly touching the screen with the top of their fingernail to get it to do that. Take the index finger on your left hand and orient it the same way they have theirs. You can easily fuck with touch screens like this.

I have no doubt they were able to vote for Obama.

It's bullshit to say they were altering votes when a vote wasn't even cast. They were just making the selection.

PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:20 AM

10. Here is the link

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/06/1156736/-EVIDENCE-2012-Voting-Machine-Switching-Obama-vote-to-Romney

The guy says it only took Obama in the small white space beneath Obama's black square. It sounds legit to me. I wish he had videoed the poll worker trying to highlight Obama's name for verification. That would be some interesting video.

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Response to gvstn (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:53 AM

15. Meh, when you see an ultra short video of something, your bullshit meter needle should start...

...twitiching. Notice how he's hitting it in exactly the same place. Notice that he's not actually hitting it with the point of his finger but the back of his fingernail. Notice how he doesn't touch any other part of the bar with the President's name on it or clicking on the (visible above the Romney/Obama choices) "straight ticket" voting bar.

That specific video is "evidence" of absolutely nothing.

PB

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Response to ReverendDeuce (Original post)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:16 AM

9. I heard on my local radio station that this was happening on some machines in Pueblo CO

Except it was in reverse. People who were selecting Romney the check would appear in the Obama box. They took the machines down to recalibrate them.

Not good that it's happening at all, but at least people are seeing the error. It's what we don't see that's more worrisome.

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Response to ReverendDeuce (Original post)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:21 AM

11. If you were going to rig an electronic vote, that's not how you'd do it.

The voter doesn't need to see any sign of hanky panky whatsoever. It can all be done on the backend.

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Response to ReverendDeuce (Original post)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:23 AM

12. Oh My God! An Unsourced Youtube video!

Yawn

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Response to ReverendDeuce (Original post)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:59 AM

16. go to the Youtube frame and make it go viral

Here is what the poster said:



My wife and I went to the voting booths this morning before work. There were 4 older ladies running the show and 3 voting booths that are similar to a science fair project in how they fold up. They had an oval VOTE logo on top center and a cartridge slot on the left that the volunteers used to start your ballot.

I initially selected Obama but Romney was highlighted. I assumed it was being picky so I deselected Romney and tried Obama again, this time more carefully, and still got Romney. Being a software developer, I immediately went into troubleshoot mode. I first thought the calibration was off and tried selecting Jill Stein to actually highlight Obama. Nope. Jill Stein was selected just fine. Next I deselected her and started at the top of Romney's name and started tapping very closely together to find the 'active areas'. From the top of Romney's button down to the bottom of the black checkbox beside Obama's name was all active for Romney. From the bottom of that same checkbox to the bottom of the Obama button (basically a small white sliver) is what let me choose Obama. Stein's button was fine. All other buttons worked fine.

I asked the voters on either side of me if they had any problems and they reported they did not. I then called over a volunteer to have a look at it. She him hawed for a bit then calmly said "It's nothing to worry about, everything will be OK." and went back to what she was doing. I then recorded this video.

There is a lot of speculation that the footage is edited. I'm not a video guy, but if it's possible to prove whether a video has been altered or not, I will GLADLY provide the raw footage to anyone who is willing to do so. The jumping frames are a result of the shitty camera app on my Android phone, nothing more.

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Response to ReverendDeuce (Original post)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:36 PM

18. Ask yourself a simple question...

If you could rig the machine to change someone's vote, wouldn't you rig it so that the rigging didn't show up on the screen?

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