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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDon't worry about Ohio folks. We have everything under control!
Here is a little song I wrote
You might want to sing it note for note
Dont worry be happy
In every life we have some trouble
When you worry you make it double
Dont worry, be happy
Bobby McFerrin
PlunderBund (http://s.tt/1rW8i)
Our Secretary of State in Ohio, Jon Husted, is a real ass to be sure, but there is nothing to worry about. He has tried plenty to screw with our vote and sow confusion but the Obama team, our local Dem party, and the Ohio voters have kept him in check!
They tried to pass a voter ID law but we stopped them! Being so soon after the petitions against their union busting law we got a repeal on the ballot in record time. When we did that they repealed the law!
Husted tried to create unequal voting hours but the outcry was so loud he was forced to standardize them.
He was successful in shortening the total number of early voting hours, eliminating all the weekends. But, when he tried to give voting veterans the final weekend all to themselves, the Obama team took him to court and forced him to give that one weekend to us all. The only downside being the elimination of one hour from each day.
The only real concern is his last minute directive that provisional voters have to fill out the forms themselves. This could lead to more ballots being thrown out but we've used these forms before so I wouldn't expect it to be too bad. It is somewhat compounded by the fact that some people didn't receive their absentee ballots so there will potentially be more provisional ballots cast but I still think the proper attitude here is cautious optimism.
On the Tea Party side of things, there is good news! The voter intimidation group True the Vote has been denied observer status!
All but one of the six candidates whose names appeared on the original form had withdrawn permission to use their signatures prior to the submission of todays forms. During the BOE meeting Candidate Terri Jamison spoke up to say her name was forged on the latest round of forms.
The form for appointing observers reads election falsification is a 5th degree felony. Election officials have confirmed that there will be a post-election investigation of True the Vote.
The forms have been rejected unanimously by all members (Rs and Ds) on the board. True the Vote observers will not be allowed in Franklin County polling locations tomorrow. Poll monitoring organizations expect they may still be stationed outside of polling locations.
PlunderBund (http://s.tt/1sbFB)
As far as Tagg Romney owning voting machine companies that just isn't true. Hart makes the voting machines for two counties. An investment firm, HIG, has an investment fund that is invested in Hart. However, Tagg is not invested in that fund. He does have money in another HIG investment but it is not mingled with the Hart investment in any way, and he certainly doesn't have any ownership of Hart. See here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/votingmachines.asp
Last but not least is the lawsuit being filed by Bob Fitrakis of the Free Press. This is way overblown in my opinion. http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/15/2012/4783
First a little about Ohio voting. We are allowed to request paper ballots. Also, the voting machines have receipts. The way they work is that there is a clear plastic window on the machine. As you make a selection you can see it being printed on the paper. It records each selection you make and if you make a change you can see that too. It is like an audit trail. When you press vote it records the final votes, encoded as a sort of QR code type of thing. Then it deposits the paper in the machine.
So what did Husted do with the software updates? Well he installed some software without it being certified by the state board. This is potentially against the law but he argues that since it isn't on the voting machines themselves and isn't an upgrade to the tabulator that it doesn't need to be. The software is from ES&S and is not something they coded up specifically for Ohio or anything. The details aren't exactly clear but it appears to be something to allow quicker transfer of completed tabulations to the central reporting software. The voting machines themselves are in no way involved. I could have this next part wrong, because, again, there aren't a lot of details, but it appears that votes are taken from the machines to a tabulator PC at the polling location. Then this new software somehow facilitates a transfer to the central reporting software.
It is fine to be upset and a little suspicious about adding uncertified software at the last minute. I certainly am. But I think there isn't really much chance something devious is going on. Besides, we have audit trail receipts and the totals at the precinct PCs to fall back on!
If you found this useful, or reassuring, please give it a kick so your fellow DUers can not worry, and be happy about the Obama win Ohio is going to deliver
Mike Nelson
(9,944 posts)... not sure all Kerry voters made it to the end.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)More polling places will be open. I don't envision why people won't be able to vote.
thank you!
Nine
(1,741 posts)previous elections people in line to vote by the deadline were denied the right to cast a ballot
renate
(13,776 posts)I hope you're right about the voting machines because in an honest and fair election, there would be no worries at this point.
Thank you for taking the time to write this all out in so much detail! It really is reassuring.
Imperialism Inc.
(2,495 posts)to take redistricting out of the hands of the legislature.
Cha
(296,875 posts)Can't wait to thank everyone involved when this is OVER!
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)"So what did Husted do with the software updates? Well he installed some software without it being certified by the state board. This is potentially against the law but he argues that since it isn't on the voting machines themselves and isn't an upgrade to the tabulator that it doesn't need to be. The software is from ES&S and is not something they coded up specifically for Ohio or anything. The details aren't exactly clear but it appears to be something to allow quicker transfer of completed tabulations to the central reporting software. The voting machines themselves are in no way involved. I could have this next part wrong, because, again, there aren't a lot of details, but it appears that votes are taken from the machines to a tabulator PC at the polling location. Then this new software somehow facilitates a transfer to the central reporting software. "
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Imperialism Inc.
(2,495 posts)It is a piece of software that ES&S will probably be including in its package in the future.
Chemisse
(30,804 posts)Or is it just something the voters take home with them (crinkle up and throw in the trash)?
Imperialism Inc.
(2,495 posts)It stays behind the window and is put in the machine at the end.
Chemisse
(30,804 posts)That is very reassuring. Thanks.
louis c
(8,652 posts)spicegal
(758 posts)It's hard to push back against so much misinformation.
Imperialism Inc.
(2,495 posts)if True the Vote had been able to "observe", 20 of the 28 precincts they would be observing had a over 50% African American population.
mzmolly
(50,980 posts)ArnoldLayne
(2,066 posts)printed on a strip of paper or ticket. I should know I have OCD I checked 10 or 11 times at least to make sure it said Obama/Biden it did..I think..lol.