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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:11 PM Nov 2012

Pakistani couple kill daughter who talked to a boy

Pakistani couple kill daughter who talked to a boy

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - A Pakistani couple killed their teenage daughter by pouring acid on her face and body after they caught her talking to a boy, police and a doctor said on Thursday.

The parents of the 16-year-old confessed to police in Kotli, a town in Pakistan-administered Kashmir, that they attacked their daughter after she had spoke to the boy outside their house, said Mohammad Jahangir, a local doctor at the hospital where she was brought.


"There were third-degree burns on her scalp, face, eyes, nostrils, both arms, chest foot and lower part of legs. Even her scalp bone was exposed," he said, adding that the mother initially told the hospital their daughter tried to commit suicide. Police have arrested the parents.

Almost 1,000 women lost their lives last year in so-called "honor killings" in the conservative South Asian nation, according to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan. Activists say the actual number is much higher as most cases go unreported.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-pakistan-crime-teenbre8a018o-20121101,0,3676885.story

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Pakistani couple kill daughter who talked to a boy (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 OP
And to think they prefer Romney... faithfulcitizen Nov 2012 #1
Fucking animals leftynyc Nov 2012 #2
Is there such a thing as mass mental illness? drm604 Nov 2012 #3
I'm not sure why mental illness is raised. HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #11
But doing this to your own child seems to violate human nature. drm604 Nov 2012 #12
But the beliefs that support or challenge both types of homicidal behaviors are NOT human nature HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #22
like everyone in Germany who thought concentration camps were okay stuntcat Nov 2012 #23
I hope they are punished for this. GreenPartyVoter Nov 2012 #4
Women have their issues in America, lilithsrevenge12 Nov 2012 #5
They tortured her to death for "honor" get the red out Nov 2012 #6
Conservatives are bad the entire world round jenw2 Nov 2012 #7
Makes you wonder why some people have kids whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #8
Fucking idiots... truebrit71 Nov 2012 #9
That's got nothing to do with a book ornotna Nov 2012 #16
What a shit hole. Honestly. n/t LeftinOH Nov 2012 #10
They tortured her and then killed her obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #13
It's hard to appreciate a culture flamingdem Nov 2012 #14
There is that word again, 'conservative' and I am beginning to think Rex Nov 2012 #15
Not clear, but it's against the law there, at least? treestar Nov 2012 #17
Sick, sick, sick. hifiguy Nov 2012 #18
Religion or a closed government Rex Nov 2012 #19
Fucking barbaric!!!!!!! WTF!! Initech Nov 2012 #20
Primitive savages. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #21
Here's what I don't understand about these neanderthals... LeftofObama Nov 2012 #24
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
2. Fucking animals
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:13 PM
Nov 2012

Thankfully, the parents have been arrested. Now let's see if it actually gets to trial.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
3. Is there such a thing as mass mental illness?
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:15 PM
Nov 2012

How can any parent treat their child like this? 1,000 a year?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
11. I'm not sure why mental illness is raised.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:52 PM
Nov 2012

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I'm less sure what "mass" mental illness would have on this.

Violation of basic human rights by people who are acting to meet a social and or a religious expectation doesn't require mental illness.

Globally the United States ranks roughly 5th in execution rates. In recent decades frequently the US is the only "western" or G-8 nation that executes anyone in a given year. It doesn't mean American has a mass mental illness, only that within our nation some states have a social acceptance of execution for some crimes.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
12. But doing this to your own child seems to violate human nature.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:54 PM
Nov 2012

It's different from executing murderers.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
22. But the beliefs that support or challenge both types of homicidal behaviors are NOT human nature
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:17 PM
Nov 2012

they are acquired during socialization and consequently vary by culture/society. One of the curious things about religious discipline and discipline that provides group identity, is that it frequently demands it's adherents to act against their biological nature (abstinence from food and sex, and various rituals including mutilations, bathing, adornments etc).


Mentally ill persons are typically recognized by the personal stress/distress caused by that individual's cognitive, emotional, or behavioral dysfunction _within_ the context of their societies.






stuntcat

(12,022 posts)
23. like everyone in Germany who thought concentration camps were okay
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:28 PM
Nov 2012

Also like everyone in our own country who supports so many industries that are killing oceans and keeping people around the world in poverty and raping our own future.

I am certain mass mental illness affects almost all humans. And even though the Germans were in black & white, and these people are on the other side of the world, we are not so different from them. We are just as human and just as susceptible.

get the red out

(13,459 posts)
6. They tortured her to death for "honor"
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:21 PM
Nov 2012

When they obviously have none.

These people have been rendered sub-human by their "beliefs". They are monsters. Killing one's offspring is illogical and shows no hint of normal, human emotion or intellect. SUB-HUMAN, and really lower than most any living thing on the planet. Cultures that propagate such behavior need to change, they should not be supported in continuing on like this.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
9. Fucking idiots...
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:30 PM
Nov 2012

Seriously, people that don't have the common sense to see the difference between right and wrong without basing it on a fucking book should be prevented from having children in the first place..

obamanut2012

(25,911 posts)
13. They tortured her and then killed her
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:59 PM
Nov 2012

It what the actual headline should say. They didn't even murder her quickly. That wouldn't be any better legally, but the girl's suffering would have been less. My God.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
15. There is that word again, 'conservative' and I am beginning to think
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:02 PM
Nov 2012

that it does not mean what they think it means...I would use something else like, "malicous religiously insane parents try to kill their child via torture'.



But hey, that's just me.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. Religion or a closed government
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:10 PM
Nov 2012

and if you are really, really unlucky - a closed government ruled by religious leaders.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
21. Primitive savages.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:15 PM
Nov 2012

Religious fundamentalists of all stripes are dangerous people but these Muslim fundies are particularly bestial. Given the free reign, I think we might see similar behavior from our own religious whackos. The secular nature of the government here is the only thing keeping them in check.

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
24. Here's what I don't understand about these neanderthals...
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:50 PM
Nov 2012

If this was truly an "honor killing", stand up and shout it from the rooftops! Stand up and say, "we tortured and killed our daughter for talking to a boy. It goes against everything we believe in." You fucking brave neanderthals! Own it! Claim it! But no, you have to be cowards and say your daughter tried to commit suicide. If it's so fucking honorable why do you have to lie about it?

There is no level of hell low enough for these idiots!

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