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Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:49 AM

Homeland Security Given Green Light to Monitor American Journalists

"Under the National Operations Center (NOC)’s Media Monitoring Initiative that emerged from the Department of Homeland Security in November, Washington has written permission to collect and retain personal information from journalists, news anchors, reporters or
anyone who uses “traditional and/or social media in real time to keep their audience situationally aware and informed.”


According to DHS, the definition of personal identifiable information can consist of any intellect “that permits the identity of an individual to be directly or indirectly inferred, including any information which is linked or linkable to that individual.”

"Also included in the roster of those subjected to the spying are government officials, domestic or not, who make public statements, private sector employees that do the same and “persons known to have been involved in major crimes of Homeland Security interest,” which to itself opens up the possibilities even wider."

http://news.yahoo.com/homeland-security-given-green-light-monitor-american-journalists-072933420.html



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Reply Homeland Security Given Green Light to Monitor American Journalists (Original post)
dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 OP
HereSince1628 Jan 2012 #1
BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #2
think Jan 2012 #3
BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #6
dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #7
Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #4
annabanana Jan 2012 #5
Quantess Jan 2012 #8
Agony Jan 2012 #9
UTUSN Jan 2012 #10
Rex Jan 2012 #11
Zhade Jan 2012 #12
dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #14
sad sally Jan 2012 #13
dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #15

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:58 AM

2. You know that anything attributed to "The Blaze" (see byline)

refers to Glenn BecKKK's crap, right?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 11:04 AM

3. Good to know TY. But DHS still sucks and needs to be abolished!

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Response to think (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 11:08 AM

6. Agree

that I never thought I'd see such an explosive expansion of "big government" under a Repuke with the creation of that unsustainable monstrosity. It needs to be dismantled, the TSA put under DOT, the CBP and ICE put under Justice (rather than Treasurey where they originally came from), and the old USDA folks put back under the USDA.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:25 PM

7. No, I did not....thanks for that heads up.

But still, the info is important, I am sure I can find it on a "neutral" site also...

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 11:06 AM

4. Can we just call them the STASI now?

Thank you, George Bush and the Flock of Cowards that went along with this crap in Congress for killing what was left of The Republic.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 11:06 AM

5. Well who the fuck knew that ANYONE is a "jounalist" now?

By posting here, I guess I have an "audience". Even if it's clear that fewer than 10 have clicked on this post. So I guess that DHS has a green light to collect and retain any and all personal information on me!


. . . and you.

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Response to annabanana (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:31 PM

8. Think how utterly wasteful that would be!

I mean, sure great if it creates jobs, but, this somehow doesn't mesh with the smaller government we are supposed to be aiming for.

That's just one aspect.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 01:06 PM

9. Oh Hello?

Fuck you Agent Mike

...

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 02:54 PM

10. Gossip site Gawker caught DRUDGE & BecKKK's Blaze hyping this

Has BecKKK recovered from his latest full frontal crash with the health care system? Something about his having been carried out on a stretcher. Herniated disk. Haven't heard whether he behaved like when he had hemmoroid surgery a few years ago.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002161755

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 02:55 PM

11. SIGH.

Why do we always take two steps forward and one step backwards?

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 04:07 PM

12. Jesus fucking christ.

But noooooooo, it's not a police state.

You realize this could apply to any of us who post online, right?

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Response to Zhade (Reply #12)

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 04:37 PM

14. "could"????

I realize that every byte of data we have been sending since 2001 has been channeled into AT&T spy room in SF and now elsewhere. Remember when the whistle was blown on the Telecoms gathering all the data?
What I am hearing now is more and more public rationalization and justification for what they have been doing all along. The tools and techniques and reach has improved, over the years.
And it is global, not limited to just here.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 04:36 PM

13. Seems a bit odd as so many news anchors, reporters and even some journalists these

days sound exactly like official spokespeople for the government - like they've been given a script from a government official and "report" the "news." It's likely the government probably knows a lot about them already; maybe it's a plan to reel in the honest ones who haven't turned? Believe Glen Greenwald captured it with this article.
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FRIDAY, JAN 13, 2012
Arthur Brisbane and selective stenography
BY GLENN GREENWALD

The New York Times‘ Public Editor Arthur Brisbane unwittingly sparked an intense and likely enduring controversy yesterday when he pondered — as though it were some agonizing, complex dilemma — whether news reporters “should challenge ‘facts’ that are asserted by newsmakers they write about.” That’s basically the equivalent of pondering in a medical journal whether doctors should treat diseases, or asking in a law review article whether lawyers should defend the legal interests of their clients, etc.: reporting facts that conflict with public claims (what Brisbane tellingly demeaned as being “truth vigilantes”) is one of the defining functions of journalism, at least in theory. Subsequent attempts to explain what he meant, along with a response from the NYT‘s Executive Editor, Jill Abramson, will only add fuel to the fire.

Jay Rosen and Clay Shirky both have excellent analyses of the Brisbane controversy — which, as they point out, sparked such intense reaction because it captured and inflamed long-standing anger toward media outlets for mindlessly amplifying statements without examining whether they’re true. As Stephen Colbert put it in his still-extraordinary 2006 speech at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner: “But, listen, let’s review the rules. Here’s how it works. The President makes decisions. He’s the decider. The press secretary announces those decisions, and you people of the press type those decisions down. Make, announce, type. Just put ‘em through a spell check and go home.” While reporters typically react with fury over the suggestion that they are stenographers, Brisbane was essentially posting that this is all they are, and then earnestly wondering aloud whether they should be anything more than that, as though it was some sort of exotic or edgy suggestion.

That most reporters faithfully follow the stenographer model — uncritically writing down what people say and then leaving it at that — is so obvious that it’s hardly worth the effort to demonstrate it. There are important exceptions to this practice even at the most establishment media outlets, where diligent and intrepid investigative journalism exposes the secret corruption of the most powerful. But by and large, most establishment news coverage consists of announcing that someone or other has made some claim, then (at most) adding that someone else has made a conflicting claim, and then walking away. This isn’t merely the practice of journalists; rather, as Rosen points out, it’s virtually their religion. They simply do not believe that reporting facts is what they should be doing. Recall David Gregory’s impassioned defense of the media’s behavior in the lead-up to the Iraq War, when he rejected complaints that journalists failed to document falsehoods from Bush officials because “it’s not our role“ and then sneered that only an ideologue would want them to do so (shortly thereafter, NBC named Gregory the new host of Meet the Press).

Literally every day, one finds major news stories that consist of little more than the uncritical conveying of official claims, often protected by journalists not only from critical scrutiny but — thanks to the shield of anonymity they subserviently extend — from all forms of accountability. Just to take one highly illustrative example from last week, the NYT published an article by Eric Schmitt based almost entirely on the assertions of anonymous officials, announcing that “a nearly two-month lull in American drone strikes in Pakistan has helped embolden Al Qaeda and several Pakistani militant factions to regroup, increase attacks against Pakistani security forces and threaten intensified strikes against allied forces in Afghanistan.” No criticisms of drone attacks were included. Three days later, the U.S. resumed drone attacks, after which the same Eric Schmitt immediately ran to inform us, citing Reuters, that the drone strike killed “at least three militants” (as always, “militant” in American media discourse means: any person who dies when an American missile shot from a drone detonates).

http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/?du

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Response to sad sally (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 04:41 PM

15. So glad you posted that.

I had missed it.
Thanks.

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