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Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:41 AM

FRUM: Vote out Obama ---or else "Republicans will go completely ape and destroy the country."

Former George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum makes such capitulation explicit.

The reason Americans should vote for Mitt Romney, says Frum, is that Congressional Republicans "have shown themselves a destructive and irrational force in American politics" and will only get worse if President Obama is re-elected.

If anything, says Frum, electing Obama to a second term will aggravate and empower these extremists, perhaps even provoke them into causing another impeachment crisis. By electing Romney, says Frum, we can avoid all that and discourage Congressional Republicans "from deliberately pushing the US into recession in 2013."

Holy cats! says Mother Jones' Kevin Drum, that's "the most overt form of the surrendering-to-terrorists argument that I've seen yet." Vote out Obama, Frum seems to be saying, or else "Republicans will go completely ape and destroy the country."

As they have shown again and again, today's Republicans no longer want to govern America so much as radically remake it.

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way more:
http://www.theygaveusarepublic.com/diary/11304/no-negotiating-with-republican-terrorists

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Reply FRUM: Vote out Obama ---or else "Republicans will go completely ape and destroy the country." (Original post)
kpete Nov 2012 OP
Thekaspervote Nov 2012 #1
ewagner Nov 2012 #2
Evergreen Emerald Nov 2012 #3
Cirque du So-What Nov 2012 #4
NotThisTime Nov 2012 #8
hobbit709 Nov 2012 #5
Uben Nov 2012 #6
B Calm Nov 2012 #7
BlueStreak Nov 2012 #9
DCBob Nov 2012 #10
Skidmore Nov 2012 #31
DCBob Nov 2012 #33
Tennessee Gal Nov 2012 #11
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Freddie Nov 2012 #16
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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:46 AM

1. No wonder he was fired! Wow

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:46 AM

2. That's not far-fetched....

If the tea-party caucus stays in place in the House of Representatives, you don't know what extreme they will resort to....

...we have a local candidate who doesn't know when to quit and keeps "upping the ante" with each increasingly desperate move to stave off humiliation...thereby adding more humiliation.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:47 AM

3. The republicans are blackmailing us--how about if we vote OUT the RW Congress

Sorry, Frum, we don't negotiate with terrorists.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:47 AM

4. So we roll over and capitulate to these domestic terrorists?

Fuck THAT!

I don't respond well to threats - no matter how powerful the bullies making them fashion themselves to be. We've got these scumbuzzards on the run, so NOW is NOT the time to surrender!

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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:50 AM

8. That's what he would have us do...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:47 AM

5. In other words he wants us to give in to the terrorists demands.

Screw him and the horse he rode in on.

As I told someone once. "I don't respond well to threats or stupidity, and you're guilty of both."

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:48 AM

6. They'll have to wait their turn.......

...cuz they're gonna get their asses kicked royally this time around!

Threaten a donkey and you'll get an ass-kickin!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:49 AM

7. I'm so scared. . . LOL

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:51 AM

9. Alternative: Elect Obama and the Republicans will go ape and destroy their own party

Which would you prefer?

Which would be better for America?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:55 AM

10. I dont agree with this.

Any sane Republican will see that if they continue down the road of obstruction they will not only hurt the country but also hurt themselves... personally, politically and financially. They may hate Obama but they love their jobs and their money more.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:16 AM

31. You are assuming that what is left in the Republican party are sane and rational people.

They are ideologues, racists, mysongynists, and every base element of our citizenry who have finally been given full throated voice in the media and access to power. Very dangerous combinations. If you remove the someone you hate more than your job or money, you can always reshape the world the way you want it. This is the precipice we are on.

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:28 AM

33. some not all.

I think the sane group will prevail.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:55 AM

11. Frum should do what he can to influence those in his own party to work for the people instead

of blocking everything Obama suggests. Why belong to a party that might go completely ape and destroy the country?

What an admission to make! What an idiot! Work on your on Party!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:57 AM

12. Choose your enemies carefully, for you may become them.

Terrorism is very unbecoming. Bourbon swilling country club Republicans at least give us something fashionable to look at while we're being terrorized. Hmmm, I guess that's not much of a silver lining is it?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:05 AM

13. The "Establishment's" Last Stand...

The natives have been restless and a Willard loss on Tuesday will make an ugly mess that is the rushpublican party even uglier...and it's a train headed right over Willard's warm corpse and all remaining "moderates" in the party. Frump's fear is he's about to be completely without a party...a "moderate" (yes, David...we remember you being a chickenhawk) in a party of extremes and on the losing side.

The teabaggers will blame the establishment as not being "conservative" enough while the "moderates" will blame the teabaggers for losing the Senate (Murdouck & Akin) and so it will go and who knows who will come out ahead. My hopes is the infighting lasts well into 2016 and their obstructionist games cost them in 2014.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:05 AM

14. He just isn't firing on all cylinders is he? Because it would be stupid to

vote for a destructive and irrational force to lead our country.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:06 AM

15. Excellent... Heighten the Contradictions.



If we're going to have a fiscal cliff, let the GOP self-immolate. Go after defense...

Dave Lutz of Stifel, Nicolaus is looking for a "footprint" in the market that could be consistent with traders predicting a Romney victory.

He finds 4 big datapoints:

MBS IMPACT - A second term for Obama could lead to changes in FHFA leadership, possibly posing principal reduction-related policy risk for MBS / Expect investors to scale back expectations of how much agency MBS Fed will purchase under QE3 if Romney wins (CSFB, Barclays) – Normally, we have a 1% spread between 30Y FNMA Coupons, and the 10YY. On QE3 – that collapsed down to 4bp. Over the last month, as Romney has gained momentum – it has rallied to 55bp – up 10bp in the last week alone.

DOLLAR AND GOLD - Romney win would likely deliver tighter monetary policy, looser fiscal policy due to commitment to cut taxes without raising revenue (ING) – Gold has lost 5% since Romney started gaining momentum – and the DXY is 1% stronger

FISCAL CLIFF –Many feel that a Romney Win will alleviate concerns about Sequestration and going over the Cliff – While a Obama victory will cause higher polarized debate over the cliff, as the GOP will not easily lose any bargaining strength. Ground “Zero” for these concerns in the market should be the Defense Contractors (The ITA is up 2.5% the last 2 days, and nearing YTD highs) – The Fed IT Contractors (SAI +4% this week / CACI 8% (earnings as well) / MANT +7% this week). 10-year yield could fall to 1% or lower should tax increases, spending cuts hit in full; at 1.75% yield, market “somewhat optimistic” deal will be reached (DB)

FINANCIAL FRIENDLY – A Romney Win may help with much of the regulatory stress our Financials are feeling of late here in the States. We are seeing HEAVY call buying today in the XLF – representing our largest Banks and Insurers. I think it’s too hard to tell if this is a Sandy Trade. Over 100k Nov and Dec XLF calls have printed this morning


Romney: Elect Me Or House GOP Will Wreck The Economy (Yahoo News Headline)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:11 AM

16. "Nice country you got there. Shame if something were to happen to it."

This is what the Repugs are reduced to? Vile is too kind a word.

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Response to Freddie (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:12 AM

29. +1,000,000 n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:20 AM

17. vote Obama in.

Vote the destructive irrational repukes out.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:25 AM

18. Um, isn't that kind of EXTORTION?!?! vote the blackmailers in or else...now there's a message!

Wot an arse!!!!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:27 AM

19. "Protection-racket politics."

- Paul Krugman on Friday.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:27 AM

20. Even the wingnut media has lost its mind

They have always been a bunch of cowards and this is proof in a nutshell.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:32 AM

21. go completely ape and destroy the country

Sheeeeeeeit...That's old news.....They've been at it for over 30 years already...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:34 AM

22. The Mob is threatening to break our legs.

nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:36 AM

23. If republicans will destroy the country....

Hasn't he given the best possible reason to vote them ALL out!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:52 AM

24. What does he think will happen

If the TeaTerrorists have someone in the White House who will be nothing but a robosigner for their idiotic and dangerous legislation?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:00 AM

25. This is just (barely) a little lower than the white fat boy militias starting an insurrection.

When pressed in a corner I am sure the 1% will not want to see their fortunes jeopardized by even the ignorant Tea Party masses they have created. Stocks and investments are doing fine, so what may have to pay slightly higher taxes. A lot of money time and effort has been expended discrediting the Obama administration but even the power brokers know the writing is on the wall. Diversity in the American population cannot be stopped. If the sheep remain manageable everybody wins unless you are are vile prick like the Koch Brothers who in the end will be seen by their peers as screwing things up.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:00 AM

26. He's not completely wrong.

The Teapublicans WILL go ape, and more than likely, the spineless "Turd Way" Corpodems will let them do it and aid and abed them in it. It's all they've done for quite a while now, what makes anyone think that's going to change?

But vote for that arrogant asshole, Robme? Fuck you, Frum.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:07 AM

27. "Let Herr Hitler annex the Sudetenland, or he will start another World War!"

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:09 AM

28. "Vote for Rmoney or I'll shoot this dog!"

Wat a jerk.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:13 AM

30. A strange way to get votes I must say

Trouble is it could have an influence on some of the low information or plain assed stupid people

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:17 AM

32. Frum's actually doing a service here.

He's pointing out, as he's been doing a lot lately, how crazy and childish the Republican Party has become. No one's going to vote for Romney based on the argument that Republicans will destroy America if they don't. The real point is that Republicans are willing to figuratively blow up the country, for whatever reason.

That's hardly an endoresement of any of them.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:32 AM

34. "Vote for us and we'll stop shooting hostages" It's the only logical reason to vote for Republicans

In only this argument is there any room for honest disagreement.

There's no other reason to vote for those assholes.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:28 PM

35. Yes, let's give screaming 5-yr-olds everything they want -- that always works out so well later.


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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 02:43 AM

36. Vote for Romney, or else ...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 02:44 AM

37. New GOP policy

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 02:52 AM

38. I'm going ape shit no matter what

 

So there!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 08:00 AM

39. i will take my chances with obama,let them try their threats and nonsense. n\t

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