Although mention of Planned Parenthood and Obama's actions on that are the chief media stories, may be just like waiving a red flag to a bull. I've argued with men online who believe that bombing clinics and killing abortion doctors is okay to stop the crime they consider it to be.
I would point out the statistics on Planned Parenthood, that abortions are not funded by federal money at all. They are funded by private donations.
That PP is where women without access to regular medical care or lacking the money to pay for insurance, have to go to get regular health services, cancer screenings and treatment for other problems that others have the luxury of choosing their doctors.
And that Planned Parenthood is what it is says it says it is; families planning for parenthood. That they take care of many pregnancies to make sure they are brought to term. They are not in the business of killing babies as if it's some kind of sacrifice to Baal. They are about women being able to have babies, much more than the other way around.
And birth control has prevented more abortion than any other method.
Another take on this, as it looks as if the person has completely jumped the shark on the separation of church and state, so that may not work, is to go to the deeper religious and philosophical route.
Some people, and most mainline religions at one time did not oppose abortion, they just never thought about it until ti got into the media and the political groups entered and took over the church. This was a planned move, designed to make people hate the government, that gave them the right to worship freely. Most churches and Bible scholars held that a person was not considered alive until the first breath. I asked Jewish friends why did they support abortion, and they said it was because of their religion. That a child that has not taken a breath is not here yet.
With the advances in medicine, the line of viability has changed greatly. But Obama isn't trying to change that. And the Democratic position on abortion from Gore and many other was that 'we should keep abortion safe. legal and rare.' Emphasis on the word 'rare.' With a social safety net in place, prenatal care, less stigmatizing unplanned birth, more support for the mother and child after birth, especially if there are complications, there are less abortions. That is so in countries that provide all of those things, encouraging the mother and child without abusive income requirements or threats of taking help away, to reduce it.
That is not the same as here. Obama is trying to get that way of thinking approved in the USA, but not for his own glory or power, but because many of those countries also have more success in business because employers are not saddled with the burden of seeking, funding and managing health care.
Obama is doing what he is doing out of the Affordable Care Act to normalize the lives of millions of people who are being left out of family planning and ending up having babies that end up in dumpsters, become wards of the state, or they and their families end up on welfare. If the family is not really competent to provide a decent living for themselves, they are not protected. Those children are not protected from poverty.
The ACA is saving the lives of many new borns who insurance companies would not help, who were going to die. DU has many of these reports. The ACA has protect the pregnancies of women trying to give birth to wanted babies because of pre-conditions that the GOP thinks are like not having insurance for cars is the same thing in levels of responsibilities. It is not. Obamacare is about saving lives, not taking them. Obama has no interest in abortions being performed on anyone, has not objected to the laws against later term, viable births, etc. But he want them to succeed, not perish in the womb from preventable causes. Obama is about LIFE much more than the 'pro-life' group.
Okay, let's go from there to judgmental thinking. And TAXES. Does he support the ACA? Does he support paying for people of color (if he's white) who are the targets of demagoguery on the radio? Does he support paying for immigrants? Those are unborn babies those women carry. Does he support the right to life for those of other religions?
If he is a racist or xenophobe, and I'm doing the disgusting in playing The Devil's Advocate here, does he understand that the many people who have come here and are definitely pro-life will overwhelm his group?
As offensive at that is, since I've argues with these guys for years, that really puts the screw to the holier than thou attitude. they have. A lot of the pro-lifers got the push from such people as Pat Buchanan, and that is exactly what the pro-life movement was for some people in the eighties, worried about the white race being overwhelmed, so il-legalize abortion to make more 'desirable' white babies.
Another of the religious right is Pat Robertson. When China was enforcing their one-child-only policy, and FORCING abortions on women, even at the last minute killing them, Robertson said China should be free to do as they please because it's their nation. So here are a lot of contradictions and a lot of agendas that are really ugly being pushed, that have nothing to do with Christianity, but less moral reasons.
And who is to say, as some people have and I've mentioned, when is the child endowed with the soul from God, if that is his belief? I read a testimony from a woman who had gotten an test done to see how her fourth child was doing. It was determined that the child would be born with Down's and all that implies, from the best to the worst. The question in her family's mind, was would they agree to make a lifetime commitment to this unborn child, or should the soul be returned to God before birth, to be sent out again to live. In other words, aborted.
Does he support care for all the unborn's mothers, with his pocketbook, of people that he will never meet, never shake hands with, with children that he will never care about personally, or does he think he has the right to interfere with the lives of strangers to make them obey his religious beliefs?
Does he think that his religious beliefs should determine what government allows and pays for, when one day his religion may not be the dominant one? Does he realize that Sharia Law issued from that line of thinking?
And if a baby is aborted, is the sin on his head? Does the believe that America will fall from not allowing rights to others who do not believe as he does, forcing them to do what he will NOT be responsible for? Does he believe that the Israelis, RWers call the ultimate source of their religious authority, have legal abortion under many circumstances?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Israel#Circumstances_under_which_abortion_is_legal
Well, I'm tired, too. Sorry for that really gross, disgusting stuff up there, but that's what I've had to argue with some of these folks. They really are more about being bullies than doing other people right, and often their demand that abortion be ended, does not come from a good place. I'm sure someone else could give more concise advice. I think that your message is written well.
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