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hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:15 PM Nov 2012

Is the reporting about the storm aftereffects is distorted by misunderstanding local culture?

New Yorkers turn out to help one another when the going gets tough; we all learned that on 9/11. But they have never been shy about complaining, especially about their local government. On the other hand, Garrison Keillor has made a running gag out of the way Midwesterners refuse to admit that anything is wrong or that they need help. Does "we're all dying out here on Staten Island" actually translate to "I'd like the power to come back on and someone needs to get rid of that downed tree blocking the road"?

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Is the reporting about the storm aftereffects is distorted by misunderstanding local culture? (Original Post) hedgehog Nov 2012 OP
New Yorkers have a special way of communicating. liberal N proud Nov 2012 #1
Well, I would say that Staten Island is different from the rest of NYC and many Blue Meany Nov 2012 #2
probably to some extent... TDale313 Nov 2012 #3
Yes... nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #4
Exactly! Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #5
And it's spread throughout the region customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #11
No it means they are dying out there. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #6
Yes, it's a disaster area nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #10
Honestly speaking, they don't come across as likeable people. RagAss Nov 2012 #7
Come and visit us and you will find we have a special charm. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #9
good point! norahs8 Nov 2012 #8
What brought people together eleven years ago was the sense of a common enemy customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #12

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
1. New Yorkers have a special way of communicating.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:20 PM
Nov 2012

One that many west of Pennsylvania don't get.

I am sure there is some legitimacy to their complaints and some of it is New York.

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
2. Well, I would say that Staten Island is different from the rest of NYC and many
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:24 PM
Nov 2012

New Yorkers (including those on SI) say it should be part of New Jersey. It's more like the NJ suburbs than the other boroughs of New York--whiter, with more single-family homes, etc. That may be part of the reason we are hearing more about Staten Island than, say, Queens, which seems to have gotten the worst of it NYC.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
3. probably to some extent...
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:27 PM
Nov 2012

Everyone's going to react differently in a crisis. There's no question people are suffering in the aftermath of Sandy. Let's cut people some slack if their nerves are a bit frayed. Jmo.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
11. And it's spread throughout the region
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:03 PM
Nov 2012

Believe me, I deal with it every workday at my job in NJ. However, let's not forget that distrust plays a large part in that attitude. Once someone feels they can trust you, they stop squeaking. I do that with my rural Northwestern accent, which people know doesn't originate in this area, and they know that folks from other areas of the country are more trusting and perhaps trustworthy.

Photo ops with Cuomo handing out supplies with a dozen National Guard troops around, and hugfests between the President and Gov. Christie Cream are not going to engender trust. It's going to take results to produce that. I'm afraid of all the pissed off people there will be on Tuesday morning who will not be too happy to stand in a line to vote after having waited four hours to get a couple of gallons of gas for the car or generator.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
6. No it means they are dying out there.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:33 PM
Nov 2012

I was in Staten Island yesterday and it is a disaster. There are no words to describe it. People who just don't have power understand that they were luckier than the people who live in Zone A.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. Yes, it's a disaster area
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:46 PM
Nov 2012

Aid is tricking in. FEMA is moving in en force, food and water is coming in...zone A was designated as such for a reason.

norahs8

(5 posts)
8. good point!
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:38 PM
Nov 2012

But there are spots there (SI, coastal towns, etc) that really need all the help they can get..

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
12. What brought people together eleven years ago was the sense of a common enemy
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:10 PM
Nov 2012

It's difficult to muster up the same feelings of determination with a natural event. At 9/11, radicalized Islam was an easy target to stand up to, and the government (through the media) delivered the bearded, turbaned Osama bin Laden as the face of that enemy.

In this situation, Hurricane Sandy does not have a face to put on a wanted poster, and people will start looking for another enemy to blame. In the absence of effective help, that enemy may well become government. It's no wonder that elected officials are out there trying to get in front of cameras and microphones to either call for action from higher-ups, or are announcing what actions they have been able to mobilize.

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