Do Freepers really and truly believe Romney will be the next POTUS???

[Sheepshank]

...or are they just bluffing?

Because you know, I really and truly believe Obama will be the returning POTUS and I'm not bluffing. I really think that Obama will win by a large margin.

I suppose what I'm really and truly trying to discern is if somehow there is a remote, twilight-zone of a possibility, that I'm blind to the voting realities in thinking this way. Each side is just as convinced as the other that their side will be winning this election. Blue pill or Red pill. It's sometime so surreal.

[treestar]

1. They think that if they act as if they truly believe it

It can come true. They know it's not happening, but they can always pray for a miracle.

[LiberalLoner]

2. They really seem to live in an alternate universe. I really think they do believe they will win,

and I worry about violence when our President wins reelection.

[teddy51]

3. The only way that Romney would ever occupy the WH is to steal it!

[ksoze]

4. Thier news sources and reading material suggest so.

Spend 30 minutes on Fox or RW radio and imagine you know nothing else. You would think Romney was God and Obama the devil.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

20. +1 nt

[Drab]

5. Delusion and Romnesia???

Obamacare covers that!

[maxrandb]

6. Romney's on the ballot, so yes...he has a chance to win

I could care less what the Freekers are thinking or hoping...I just want to work hard to make sure they're crying in their beer, waiting for Rush and Insanity to tell them how to feel and what to think come Wednesday 8 November.

Here's one thing I've learned about all the "wingnut asshats" I've met over the past 30 years...they get their information from Faux News and hate radio, and they'll believe ANYTHING!

[Obamamama44]

7. The ones I know do...they don't think Obama has a chance

Hell they think r will take MI. I can't wait to see and hear their reactions on Wednesday!

[CoffeeCat]

8. They ignore most polls; cherry pick

They ignore polls that counter their delusions. They focus on right-leaning polls and nothing else. They cherry pick data from polls and hyper focus on it, while ignoring the big picture.

I look at everything. There are plenty of sites that avg all polls and disseminate aggregate numbers. These numbers are usually spot on predictors. Freepers ignore what is most accurate and selectively focus on data bits and polls that make them happy.

It really is something.

It doesn't help that right wing radio is bamboozling them. I saw Glenn Beck's chalkboard of swing states. He didn't have accurate polling or even the latest polls. he had a list of swing states and had indiana as one of them! Hahaha! OMG...anything to further the illusion.

I have argued before that I don't think the overlords are doing the Freepers any favors by bullshitting them. I worry that a loss will be difficult enough for some of these imbalanced people. A shocking loss might cause irrational reactions.

[sharp_stick]

9. I remember me in 2004

and right up until the end I was sure that Kerry was going to pull it out. I could read the polls, I knew that it wasn't looking good especially the last couple of weeks but damnit I held on.

Until shrubbo hit 270 that night I actually believed (maybe it was just blind hope) that Kerry was going to do it.

[JuniorPlankton]

14. so true!

I remember that night like it was yesterday - probably the biggest disappointment of my life. And I was so sure Kerry was going to win. He even looked so presidential...

[Grammy23]

10. There is a massive campaign at work telling them what they want to hear.

They have books, TV shows and talk radio that just reinforces the notion that Romney is winning. Their pundits spin the polling numbers and they even have their own polling organizations, so if the real polls don't support it, they invent their own numbers. If all you surround yourself with are the voices telling you that your side is winning, that is what you will believe and repeat. It can happen on both sides if you only listen to what they are saying without anything to help balance your point of view. That is why it is important to search out credible sources to help you understand what is happening.

Also the Far Right believers are VERY good at suspending reality, avoiding critical thinking and accepting at face value what they are told. I think many on the Left are natural skeptics and ask for proof. Not a bad trait, given the number of spinners and bald faced liars there are selling their slanted views.

[Johnny2X2X]

11. Yup

It's getting thinner and thinner though. On bipartisan sites I debate on,m the far righties are losing it. Before they could sometimes post reasonably credible articles saying Romney has a shot, the last 2 days it's been only stuff from Breitbart.com. That's what they're left with, Breitbart. They can't even cherry pick polls any more, they have to go to Breitbart for their last ray of hope.

[lpbk2713]

12. If OxyRush says it's gonna happen then there is no question about it.

They know their party's de facto leader would not lie to them.

[Sheepshank]

21. I was eating!!!! Thank you very much!

Diet remians in tact.

[sinkingfeeling]

13. I guess they think if they all vote for the man they swore they'd never vote for,

he'll win.

[Mz Pip]

15. They thought McCain would win

And with a landslide because people would not vote for the Black Socialist Muslim no matter what they told the pollsters.

I spent a bit of time over there and on a couple of other RW sites right before the 2008 election and I doubt they've changed much.

I won't go there again though.

[adigal]

16. Yes. They are deluded, and reading and listening to sources

that encourage their delusion. It is pretty scary, that smart people I know personally think Romney is ahead.

[sofa king]

17. You answered your own question!

Freepers believe without thinking, and have thoughtless beliefs.

You think, and your thinking informs your belief.

It most definitely is surreal to see Americans who are so much worse off than they were twelve years ago completely failing to connect the decline in their own private fortunes with the Republican Party, which actively and successfully sought to achieve that decline in the Bush years, and accelerate that decline over the past three years.

But that is the difference between believing and thinking. A belief unsupported by facts doesn't have to change to fit the facts, because beliefs are bullshit to begin with and a believer wouldn't know an actual fact if it bit him on the ass.

Supported beliefs are backed by some evidence and can be used to make somewhat accurate predictions about the future, even if the information which informs the belief is incomplete. If new information is introduced, the belief can be changed to better fit the evidence, similar to a theory.

Unsupported beliefs are a shortcut designed to bypass rational thought and skip straight to an objective--usually someone else's objective, because believers are suckers ripe for exploitation.

[hifiguy]

18. The right is capable of systemic and constant self-delusion

on a wide variety of topics. See: abstinence education works, a clump of cells the size of the head of a pin is the same thing as a fully-grown adult human, the earth is 6000 years old, there's no such thing as racism anymore, the "Rapture" is coming, there is no evidence for climate change or the evolution of species, the voices they hear in their heads are an invisible sky wizard talking to them. The list is nearly endless.

[Sheepshank]

19. sometimes those beliefs seem so comical I forget they are real for many..nice reminder n/t

[Douglas Carpenter]

22. with the entire country enraged over how betrayed our men in Benghazi, caused their deaths and then

lied to cover it up, how he has tried to end freedom of religion in America and been persecuting Christians nonstop, how he has practically declared war on Israel and completely sided with their enemies to try to wipe then out, how he has stolen billions of the treasury and handed it right over to his cronies like Solyndra in the most unprecedented corruption scandal in American history - how he has tried to force abortion and gay marriage on the entire country against the will of everyone - how he has nationalized the auto industry, the hospitals and the banks and has almost overnight transformed America into a socialist-atheist Republic - how he has tried to force Sharia Law on America and is trying turn America into a fundamentalist Islamic Republic - - And he is doing all of these things right in front of our eyes - Well if you watch Fox News, listen to talk radio, and follow what at least half of what Republicans are saying - these are not preposterous statements - these are facts - facts which everyone knows - thus it only stands to to reason that reelecting Barack Obama is simply out of the question.

[opiate69]

23. The ones at my wifes work sure seem to...

I'm sitting here trying really, really hard to bite my tongue, but it's funny as fuck listening to them!

[Swede Atlanta]

24. Their fantasy world emerges....

Just as the right wingers think if they say something or tell something that they know isn't true that even though it will never be true, people will believe it.

So in the same way they keep thinking if they just say President Robme, President Robme, President Screwme, often enough it will come true.

While I don't think this is a runaway for the President, I do think BO is in a good position to renew his mandate and serve as our distinguished President for another 4 years. Many things can happen with voting irregularities, etc. but based on BO's performance in Sandy, the improving economic conditions, etc. I think BO will be re-elected.