Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:09 PM
Panasonic (2,921 posts)
That's it. It's all over. It's a landslide folks.
The swing states are all Obama's, and the red states except for Arizona, Indiana and Missouri (surprise!) stays red.
Obama wins with over 350+ EV's vs Romonoid's 157 EV's. Bank on it. Put it in right here!
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| Panasonic | Oct 2012 | OP | |
| oswaldactedalone | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
| Lucy Goosey | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
| silvershadow | Oct 2012 | #21 | |
| PsychGrad | Oct 2012 | #39 | |
| usregimechange | Oct 2012 | #45 | |
| cbdo2007 | Oct 2012 | #77 | |
| silvershadow | Oct 2012 | #59 | |
| cbdo2007 | Oct 2012 | #78 | |
| Yul A | Oct 2012 | #64 | |
| Avalux | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
| Zambero | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
| Logical | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
| Wednesdays | Oct 2012 | #52 | |
| brooklynite | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
| Blue_Tires | Oct 2012 | #69 | |
| Tutonic | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
| sheshe2 | Oct 2012 | #34 | |
| TheCowsCameHome | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
| jsr | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
| AnnieBW | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
| Douglas Carpenter | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
| LisaL | Oct 2012 | #13 | |
| ecstatic | Oct 2012 | #12 | |
| LadyHawkAZ | Oct 2012 | #14 | |
| Loudestlib | Oct 2012 | #31 | |
| Coyotl | Oct 2012 | #40 | |
| Zalatix | Oct 2012 | #50 | |
| LadyHawkAZ | Oct 2012 | #51 | |
| marions ghost | Oct 2012 | #84 | |
| K8-EEE | Oct 2012 | #15 | |
| OffWithTheirHeads | Oct 2012 | #16 | |
| Coyotl | Oct 2012 | #41 | |
| ProudProgressiveNow | Oct 2012 | #70 | |
| Autumn | Oct 2012 | #17 | |
| CaliforniaPeggy | Oct 2012 | #18 | |
| Hoyt | Oct 2012 | #19 | |
| gollygee | Oct 2012 | #20 | |
| ejbr | Oct 2012 | #22 | |
| coeur_de_lion | Oct 2012 | #23 | |
| CaliGal | Oct 2012 | #28 | |
| pknorthern | Oct 2012 | #24 | |
| ffr | Oct 2012 | #25 | |
| Coyotl | Oct 2012 | #44 | |
| DCBob | Oct 2012 | #90 | |
| GObamaGO | Oct 2012 | #26 | |
| CaliGal | Oct 2012 | #27 | |
| slackmaster | Oct 2012 | #29 | |
| Panasonic | Oct 2012 | #66 | |
| SpankMe | Oct 2012 | #30 | |
| MrModerate | Oct 2012 | #48 | |
| bvf | Oct 2012 | #56 | |
| nyquil_man | Oct 2012 | #61 | |
| JohnnyRingo | Oct 2012 | #32 | |
| LadyHawkAZ | Oct 2012 | #37 | |
| Coyotl | Oct 2012 | #47 | |
| Arctic Dave | Oct 2012 | #53 | |
| JohnnyRingo | Oct 2012 | #54 | |
| Arctic Dave | Oct 2012 | #55 | |
| JohnnyRingo | Oct 2012 | #57 | |
| Arctic Dave | Oct 2012 | #58 | |
| nolabear | Oct 2012 | #33 | |
| Up2Late | Oct 2012 | #35 | |
| tiny elvis | Oct 2012 | #49 | |
| Spitfire of ATJ | Oct 2012 | #36 | |
| Coyotl | Oct 2012 | #38 | |
| Spitfire of ATJ | Oct 2012 | #43 | |
| BlueDemKev | Oct 2012 | #73 | |
| Spitfire of ATJ | Oct 2012 | #76 | |
| fujiyama | Oct 2012 | #79 | |
| Spitfire of ATJ | Oct 2012 | #82 | |
| Andy Stanton | Oct 2012 | #42 | |
| Spitfire of ATJ | Oct 2012 | #46 | |
| Andy Stanton | Oct 2012 | #65 | |
| Spitfire of ATJ | Oct 2012 | #68 | |
| BlueDemKev | Oct 2012 | #74 | |
| ashling | Oct 2012 | #60 | |
| Up2Late | Oct 2012 | #62 | |
| Recursion | Oct 2012 | #72 | |
| Up2Late | Oct 2012 | #83 | |
| AsahinaKimi | Oct 2012 | #63 | |
| Tommy_Carcetti | Oct 2012 | #67 | |
| deaniac21 | Oct 2012 | #86 | |
| Tommy_Carcetti | Oct 2012 | #87 | |
| deaniac21 | Nov 2012 | #92 | |
| mstinamotorcity2 | Oct 2012 | #71 | |
| Hutzpa | Oct 2012 | #75 | |
| fujiyama | Oct 2012 | #80 | |
| StrongBad | Oct 2012 | #81 | |
| SJohnson5677 | Oct 2012 | #85 | |
| Archbishop | Oct 2012 | #88 | |
| BlueDemKev | Oct 2012 | #91 | |
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| Care Acutely | Nov 2012 | #93 |
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:11 PM
oswaldactedalone (1,214 posts)
1. I hope to God you're right
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I'll settle for 270 though.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:12 PM
Lucy Goosey (2,940 posts)
2. I'd quibble with Missouri and Indiana...
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...but otherwise I agree!
Romneybot 2012 is not going to hit 200 EVs. |
Response to Lucy Goosey (Reply #2)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:57 PM
silvershadow (1,527 posts)
21. I never know about Missouri, but this Hoosier is hoping you are right. nt
Response to silvershadow (Reply #21)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:03 AM
PsychGrad (21 posts)
39. As a Hoosier...
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Who now lives in Missouri, I'm going to bet that MO goes red. I haven't heard anyone outside of my close circle of friends who isn't on the Romney wagon. I have no idea why, honestly, as they are voting against their own interests. I really do believe that they think they are on the edge of being a millionaire, or will be one day, and don't want anything containing their ability to earn at that point. Truth? Not gonna happen. It's VERY rural here, and mostly farmers and factory workers. Hard and honest work, but not gonna make them millionaires - especially considering MANY without even a HS diploma. It's so sad to watch them get scared of Obama and his "otherness" and vote for someone who couldn't care less if they starve or not.
I think Obama will take the cities (Dems usually do here) and the rest, overwhelmingly red. I'm voting anyway, I always do - and have been encouraging everyone else to vote too. I will be up ALL night watching the results, but Missouri won't be a surprise to me unless Obama takes it. |
Response to PsychGrad (Reply #39)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:15 AM
usregimechange (18,239 posts)
45. Agreed, I live here and am a political freak, Romney takes it by around 8%
Response to usregimechange (Reply #45)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:17 PM
cbdo2007 (6,519 posts)
77. McCain only won Missouri by .1% or 3,000 votes in 2008 - If Akin keeps some of the casual voters hom
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e, I definitely think it's a possibility McCain can win. We do have a Dem governor and a Dem senator so there might just be enough blue here to get it done. Dont' put anything past Missouri!
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Response to PsychGrad (Reply #39)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:05 AM
silvershadow (1,527 posts)
59. What are you hearing about the McGaskill/Akin (sp) race? I'm hoping we can at least squeak that one
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out there.
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Response to silvershadow (Reply #59)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:30 PM
cbdo2007 (6,519 posts)
78. McCaskill should easily be winning this one. The polls seem to be fairly accurate.
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I have a handful of hardcore RW friends on Facebook who have openly admitted being disgusted by Akin and his rape comments. Also, am seeing signs for other Repub candidates in neighborhood but only about half as many Akin as the others.
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Response to silvershadow (Reply #21)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:08 AM
Yul A (94 posts)
64. Missouri always Teases
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but ultimately goes red. Obama won't need it, anyhoo.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:13 PM
Avalux (28,938 posts)
3. That is my hope.
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I'll bookmark for next week and see you back here.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:13 PM
Zambero (2,408 posts)
4. As The Beach Boys once sang...
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"Wouldn't it be nice..!"
I hope your prediction turns out to be correct. |
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:13 PM
Logical (8,004 posts)
5. Qualifications? History of predictions? Degrees?
Response to Logical (Reply #5)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:37 AM
Wednesdays (9,241 posts)
52. Hmm... The smell of desperation is strong in this one.
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:13 PM
brooklynite (12,818 posts)
6. Thinking like this is dangerous...
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...because it blunts the need to work until the last minute for every last vote. This is a close election, and Obama -might- win Virginia and -might- win Florida, but we can't assume anything.
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #6)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 11:26 AM
Blue_Tires (31,647 posts)
69. +1000
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I've learned to take nothing for granted after that shitfest of a farcical World Series
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:14 PM
Tutonic (2,470 posts)
7. Not so fast there! Dave Weigel
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and Meat Loafs little bro at Unskewed Polls project a ROmney landslide. Can I take a minute to rant (hijack your post) about Dave Weigel? I saw another post that he had today being negative about Obama--and I have to conclude that Dave is a double agent. Yup. Look at his October 2012 articles on Slate. Boys wavin the Rebel Flag and eatin pork and beans. Thanks.
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Response to Tutonic (Reply #7)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:27 PM
sheshe2 (4,779 posts)
34. I hope he gets GAS! n/t
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:14 PM
TheCowsCameHome (27,684 posts)
8. I'd like to see that happen,
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but I'm not counting my chickens just yet.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:15 PM
jsr (3,497 posts)
9. Sure looks that way.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:15 PM
AnnieBW (6,416 posts)
10. Don't Count Your Electors
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Before they're elected!
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:17 PM
Douglas Carpenter (15,125 posts)
11. your source?
Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #11)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:18 PM
LisaL (22,801 posts)
13. Appears to be his or her head.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:17 PM
ecstatic (18,598 posts)
12. lol. I'd love that
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but it's hard to feel that confident when watching cable news.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:21 PM
LadyHawkAZ (3,878 posts)
14. GOTV!
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GOTV! GOTV! GOTV! GOTV! GOTV! GOTV! GOTV! GOTV! GOTV! GOTV! GOTV! GOTV! GOTV! GOTV! GOTV! GOTV!
None of this will happen if we don't GOTFV! GOTV and drag every blue you know along with you! |
Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #14)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:07 AM
Coyotl (5,153 posts)
40. Too late. Everyone has already voted Obama in my circles here.
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Mail-in ballots in Oregon. We voted a while ago, literally. Also, we do conveniently know who has voted and who not. Vote early and the phone quits ringing and the dead trees quit arriving in the mail.
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Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #14)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:18 AM
Zalatix (8,994 posts)
50. A few voting machines dying prior to the election would help, too.
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I hope every last one blows up in their warehouse. That would force paper ballots.
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Response to Zalatix (Reply #50)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:33 AM
LadyHawkAZ (3,878 posts)
51. Couldn't hurt
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I actually like the machines they have here, which have the touchscreens and the paper printouts. If they have to use e-machines, these would be the ones I'd like to see everywhere.
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Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #51)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 03:13 PM
marions ghost (13,858 posts)
84. Touchscreens are SO much more expensive (5X) and prone to problems
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for no real benefit. The only use I can see is to have one or two strictly for those who can't use the paper ballot. Specially designed to accommodate as many different disabilities as possible.
Ideally you want to do a hand count in conjunction with the machines DURING the voting period (not as a recount). So why have the touchscreens? The system needs to be made as simple as possible. |
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:23 PM
K8-EEE (15,667 posts)
15. Not feeling it re: AZ, IN & MO
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But I think he's in a great place to win.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:26 PM
OffWithTheirHeads (9,031 posts)
16. I quibble about Arizona! We have seen enough of the teabags to maybe affect a change!
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Nobody I know in Az. Is voting teabag! In fact, the teabags are running from the teabag lanbel.
Hell, I know it's probably not going to happen but I hope anyway. |
Response to OffWithTheirHeads (Reply #16)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:09 AM
Coyotl (5,153 posts)
41. A good portion of Arizona is under-represented in polling.
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And this cycle that populace is even bluer than before.
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Response to OffWithTheirHeads (Reply #16)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 11:32 AM
ProudProgressiveNow (3,239 posts)
70. We are doing our best...
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to turn Arizona blue. Carmona also had a great shot at the Senate. The future is tending blue here.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:31 PM
Autumn (11,280 posts)
17. From your mouth to God's ear.
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I am so sick of all the lies and hype, and I want mitt and his ilk to slither off into oblivion. I just want to skip to Nov. 7th and wake up to President Obamas smiling face all over my TV and life .
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:41 PM
CaliforniaPeggy (103,941 posts)
18. Bookmarking! How I hope you're right. n/t
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:50 PM
Hoyt (12,097 posts)
19. You better be right! ..At least as to winner.
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:51 PM
gollygee (12,318 posts)
20. I don't know. I made another donation today. A small one, but still
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I'm still nervous. The words "President Romney" freak me out.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:57 PM
ejbr (3,953 posts)
22. I think you give the intelligence of Americans too much credit, imho n/t
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:00 PM
coeur_de_lion (1,171 posts)
23. From your mouth to God's ears
Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #23)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:20 PM
CaliGal (26 posts)
28. Ooops! My bad..didn't see your post before I posted the same thing!! sorry..n/t
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:01 PM
pknorthern (4 posts)
24. Romney's anti Fema remarks will come back to bite him big time
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:08 PM
ffr (1,150 posts)
25. Really? Based on what Panasonic? Strange timing for such a baseless claim.
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With the election just days away, your simplistic statement puts at risk all the work, sweat and tears of so many.
Prove your claim or shut it! Get off your dead ass and get Democrats to the polls. Something tells me you are not a Democrat, just another forum troll. |
Response to ffr (Reply #25)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:14 AM
Coyotl (5,153 posts)
44. Blame the cheerleader?
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It really does seem to be happening. That said, there is a lot of psychological warfare afoot, so caution noted. Thanks for the concern. But, the 1,000 people who click on this, and the 10% who read part of it, and the 1% who actually read the post, and the one person who actually thinks about it for one second, they won't make a difference.
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Response to ffr (Reply #25)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:29 PM
DCBob (14,753 posts)
90. LOL.. one "simplistic statement" by some anonymous poster
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"puts at risk all the work, sweat and tears of so many."
Funny! |
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:12 PM
GObamaGO (635 posts)
26. I echo LadyhawkeAZ
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GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:19 PM
CaliGal (26 posts)
27. From your lips, to God's ears.....n/t
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:21 PM
slackmaster (60,567 posts)
29. Yeah, don't even bother voting. It's in the can.
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Response to slackmaster (Reply #29)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 09:35 AM
Panasonic (2,921 posts)
66. I voted.
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But I'm trying to give everyone a positive feeling.
Went straight Democratic ticket on paper ballot, filled the arrow. Easy enough. The entire time I was at the voting center, not one used the touch screen that was available (4 of them) |
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:21 PM
SpankMe (480 posts)
30. If the EV were to end up that lopsided...
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...then the Republican party would go into meltdown. They would allege voter and election fraud on a massive scale. They would demand investigations and, where Republicans run the statehouses and governors' mansions, they'd conduct these investigations themselves. They would unilaterally and monolithically ignore and defy the results of the election in a huge "he's not my president" movement. (Think of the birther movement on steroids.) They would go into a total and complete obstructionist mode of operations (making their recent obstructionism look like child's play by comparison), effectively trying to run their own country within a country.
It would be a period of such chaos and sustained civil, political and economic attack that it would essentially be a rebellion the likes of which will not have seen since the civil war. This is NOT hyperbole. Republicans have been radicalized to the point where I can see something like this happening. |
Response to SpankMe (Reply #30)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:17 AM
MrModerate (8,040 posts)
48. I invite investigation of election fraud . . .
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And doubt that Republicans in the know would be very enthusiastic. Once you start turning over all the rocks, who knows what you'll expose.
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Response to SpankMe (Reply #30)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:48 AM
bvf (12 posts)
56. C'mon -- could be fun!
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I hope you're not suggesting we not try our damnedest to kick their butts. I for one would love to see them eat each other alive, which would probably be step one of the aftermath in such a blowout. After that, you can bet most of them would just go back to sleep like they always do.
- bvf |
Response to SpankMe (Reply #30)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:08 AM
nyquil_man (342 posts)
61. They will do that if it's a close race, too.
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If Obama is doing anything but losing, the Republicans will be screaming.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:23 PM
JohnnyRingo (9,327 posts)
32. Reminds me of an Al Franken drawing....
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He's known for drawing a freehand map of the US in one minute or less. This is my favorite:
I wish it was mine. |
Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #32)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:47 PM
LadyHawkAZ (3,878 posts)
37. LOVE! n/t
Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #32)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:15 AM
Coyotl (5,153 posts)
47. The man is a prophet LOL
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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #32)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:39 AM
Arctic Dave (12,547 posts)
53. Not to brag, but I have one in my living room above the fireplace
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A rare one where he included Alaska.
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Response to Arctic Dave (Reply #53)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:45 AM
JohnnyRingo (9,327 posts)
54. How cool!
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Last edited Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:50 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) You must be very proud of it. Congratulations.
I'd love to get one myself. I have something I'm equally proud of. I have the original "Running Horse" pen & ink from which the Poco "Legend" album cover was made. It was painted by the late Phil Hartman of Saturday Night Live and autographed by the band in pencil. Few people know Hartman was a graphic artist in Canada before he came South to became a comedian. |
Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #54)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:47 AM
Arctic Dave (12,547 posts)
55. I am, it is the centerpiece of the living room.
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The proceeds went to the Democratic Party. Double plus good.
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Response to Arctic Dave (Reply #55)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:51 AM
JohnnyRingo (9,327 posts)
57. I have something I'm equally proud of.
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I have the original "Running Horse" pen & ink from which the Poco "Legend" album cover was made. It was painted by the late Phil Hartman of Saturday Night Live and autographed by the band in pencil. Few people know Hartman was a graphic artist in Canada before he came South to became a comedian.
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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #57)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:56 AM
Arctic Dave (12,547 posts)
58. Right on!
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I didn't know that about Hartman. Funny guy.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:23 PM
nolabear (14,681 posts)
33. Well then SMILE and vote, but vote and GOTV!!
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:30 PM
Up2Late (17,754 posts)
35. I hope so, but I'm still nervous for all of you who still live in a Blue State
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My vote hasn't counted down here in the Diebold state of Georgia since 2000, but you all go knock ' em dead.
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Response to Up2Late (Reply #35)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:18 AM
tiny elvis (845 posts)
49. my fellow cracker
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exactly my feelings
unrepresented and thankful for the yankee vote |
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:45 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,350 posts)
36. Last time it was 365 to 173....
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And the Republicans were all excited about Sister Sarah winking at them....
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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #36)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:50 PM
Coyotl (5,153 posts)
38. And Palin was a far better V-P pick than Romney = 379 to 159
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Last edited Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:51 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Place you "official" bets here:
***** Official Pre-Election Electoral College Vote = Predictions Thread ***** http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021644060 ![]() |
Response to Coyotl (Reply #38)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:12 AM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,350 posts)
43. I'd like to see it like Johnson in 64...
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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #43)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:12 PM
BlueDemKev (2,581 posts)
73. Well, we'd have to win Utah, Oklahoma, Nebraska, the Dakotas, and Idaho...
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...for THAT to happen!
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Response to BlueDemKev (Reply #73)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:52 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,350 posts)
76. Obama almost won Montana the last time....
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Just like Clinton did.
We are conditioned by the media to buy their whole narrative that the states are all solid red or solid blue but the margin is actually a lot closer than they depict so a lot of states flip. What gets me is I have spent my entire life seeing the blue as Republican and red as the Democrat. They only switched it in 2000 and then acted like the center of the country is red, has always been red and always will be red when it's all a lie. The South put Carter in office. The rest of the country voted for Ford. We have had elections where the loser only carried his home state. California was a Republican stronghold until Clinton and now it's called "The Left Coast". And what gets me is the pundits keep pushing this idea that this country went to the Right after Reagan but they NEVER claim it EVER goes to the left. EVER. Obama won the last time in a landslide but if anybody used that word to describe his win they would NOT allow that to go unchallenged. They have suckered America into believing it was a squeaker. |
Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #76)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:33 PM
fujiyama (14,607 posts)
79. Interesting map
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Last edited Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:34 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) but not quite the one we'll be playing for anytime soon due to population trends and demographics. Several states Clinton did really well in (LA, AR, WV, TN, and KY) have been trending away from Democrats since '00. On the other hand, NC and VA will be swing states and so will CO, and AZ.
Part of the issue was simple racism in the Appalachian states. They're heavily white, poorly educated, and more racist than average and religious zealouts to boot. Obama did better in the deep south due to higher AA populations but he never had a chance in others (it's interesting to see which counties Obama did worse than Kerry in and it was the along the south and Appalachia). |
Response to fujiyama (Reply #79)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:54 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,350 posts)
82. Kerry was the disposable candidate because the Dems figured they would lose that year....
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The narrative was they were running against a "wartime president" and didn't stand a chance so they ran a guy most people never heard of before the election.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:11 AM
Andy Stanton (262 posts)
42. I'm afraid it's going to be much closer
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It looks like Romney will win all of McCain's states plus North Carolina, Indiana and Florida at least, or 303 - 235. I'll be quite happy with those results. If Romney also wins Virginia and Colorado (281 - 257) it's going to be a late night. I agree with most of the commentators, Ohio will be the deciding state.
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Response to Andy Stanton (Reply #42)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:15 AM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,350 posts)
46. Why would Florida vote for a ticket that includes someone famous for wanting to get rid of SS?
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Hell,...McCain was GETTING Social Security.
It went like this with the SAME scary black guy: ![]() |
Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #46)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 08:42 AM
Andy Stanton (262 posts)
65. Lots of nervous white people looking for a scapegoat
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When white people look for someone to blame their troubles on, a large percentage of them assign blame to "the others", usually blacks and hispanics. The Democratic party has long been associated with concern for the downtrodden and, in today's USA, this means blacks and hispanics. These blame assigners almost always vote Republican, which is at this point the political party of white racism.
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Response to Andy Stanton (Reply #65)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 11:24 AM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,350 posts)
68. I keep hearing that but the racists tried to stop him before and were outnumbered....
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Obama can still fill stadiums while Romney fills boxes with cans.
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Response to Andy Stanton (Reply #42)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:15 PM
BlueDemKev (2,581 posts)
74. I believe your perspective is accurate.
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We'll be shut out in the South except maybe Virginia, we'll have decent showings in Florida and North Carolina, but still lose both by close margins. We need to win Ohio, Wisconsin, and Nevada (and, of course, hold PA, MI, and MN). That will get us to just over 270. If we can also pick up Virginia and Colorado, then we'll be closer to 290.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:07 AM
ashling (19,168 posts)
60. If you are not right and the worst happens
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will you pay for me to move to New Zealand?
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 03:09 AM
Up2Late (17,754 posts)
62. Call me crazy, but I think Utah secretly hates Romney - O362--R176
Btw, have you seen the Huff Post poll chart if you use Less smoothing? http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2012-ohio-president-romney-vs-obama#!minpct=40&maxpct=53&mindate=2012-06-03&smoothing=less&estimate=custom |
Response to Up2Late (Reply #62)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:09 PM
Recursion (25,487 posts)
72. You flipped UT but not NC?
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That would be a weird result
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Response to Recursion (Reply #72)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 02:15 PM
Up2Late (17,754 posts)
83. I just think it would be the ultimate FU Romney...
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but it's just my dream chart, probably not going to happen.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 04:10 AM
AsahinaKimi (18,082 posts)
63. Please let it be the LARGEST LANDSLIDE in history...
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Cause if I keep hearing its a close race, with the possibility of votes being flipped, disappeared, or stolen, ...and if I wake up the next day to find out Romney is our new President...I will probably not stop screaming for three days.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 09:36 AM
Tommy_Carcetti (16,436 posts)
67. Let's not Leon Lett this....
I hope you're right, but I'll be ready to call it a landslide when I see it. |
Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #67)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 03:33 PM
deaniac21 (6,416 posts)
86. If Lett had not fumbled the score would have been
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Dallas 59 Buffalo 17 instead of 52 -17
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Response to deaniac21 (Reply #86)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 03:47 PM
Tommy_Carcetti (16,436 posts)
87. Point well taken. (Sorry for the pun)
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However, let's not forget this infamous Lett-down:
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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #87)
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 05:41 PM
deaniac21 (6,416 posts)
92. Right you are!
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 11:52 AM
mstinamotorcity2 (265 posts)
71. I believe
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The President is going to WIN!!!! But I believe in Fighting untill 8:00 pm in all time zones. Sorry I want to work until we start playing the drinking game. Anybody know what word or phrase will be used in the Drinking game this time?? I voted already so now its just making sure those of my family and friends get out the VOTE. But I will say that I think there is a State that might get Purple that no one is expecting!!! Those Personhood Bills in the States have really pushed out Women Voters!!!Watch the states with High Rejections of these Bills. Hello Mississippi!!!!!!!!!
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:31 PM
Hutzpa (10,475 posts)
75. Yes We Can Win with a landslide
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here is what makes this possible, one word SANDY. While the jerkass pretender candidate is acting like a mop, our president was being PRESIDENTIAL, this resonated in peoples mind instantaneously that this is a man we can trust especially hearing Gov. Christie a republican Governor singing his praises it woken the nation up knowing that they have a President that cares.
Will go a long way. FORWARD! |
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:36 PM
fujiyama (14,607 posts)
80. I see the map at 281 right now
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I'm being conservative, giving O NH, IA, WI, OH, and all others (MI, PA, MN, etc).
But giving Romney VA, NC, CO, and FL. I still see the latter category as very possible. |
Response to fujiyama (Reply #80)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:39 PM
StrongBad (1,655 posts)
81. That's pretty much what I'm thinking, but I think VA might go to O as well.
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 03:18 PM
SJohnson5677 (7 posts)
85. Woo Hoo Check this out!!
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 04:40 PM
Archbishop (41 posts)
88. Deluding yourselves into thinking President Obama has a chance in Indiana
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0% chance of him winning here. This isn't a landslide like 2008. 281 to 257 seems pretty likely. Romney takes Colorado & Virginia.
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Response to Archbishop (Reply #88)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:50 PM
BlueDemKev (2,581 posts)
91. Well, in that case...
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...Obama will have to win Ohio. It's mathematically impossible to win without Ohio if VA and CO go to Rmoney.
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Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:25 PM
struggle4progress (71,465 posts)
89. We'll find out on 6 November
Response to Panasonic (Original post)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:32 PM
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